Russia's UAC may deliver fighter jets to Bangladesh

[bluesky]

JF17 block 2's KLJ-7V2 radar detection range is 100+km. It can also house C-802A which has a far greater range.
There was a lot of hype before this tender that we were about to get 8 Mig 29m to complete the squadron. Now it can be seen that BD has moved its priorities towards more range, radar and payload this time. Seems more like emphasizing naval engagement capabilities. Which again seems like countering MM's recent acquisition of JF17 with naval strike capability.

But, I have read somewhere JF-17 speed is a maximum 1.6 mach and it also has a drag problem. JF-17 needs also a longer than normal time to reach a certain elevation in the sky. I do not know if it uses Chinese engines or not. Whatever we say, Chinese engines have not yet been perfected like the western ones. Even China itself uses Russian jet engines to its own PLAAF planes.

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

But, I have read somewhere JF-17 speed is a maximum 1.6 mach and it also has a drag problem. JF-17 needs also a longer than normal time to reach a certain elevation in the sky. I do not know if it uses Chinese engines or not. Whatever we say, Chinese engines have not yet been perfected like the western ones. Even China itself uses Russian jet engines to its own PLAAF planes.

JF 17 has Russian RD 93 turbofan engines and newer blocks will get the more latest Rd 33 engines .

 

[rome333]

Very interesting point I just came across. Credit goes to Md.Shahriar.
As per tender doc section 29 Cockpit, it looks like the aircraft have to be a two-seater . If that's the case then we all can say goodbye to Su 35. Only Mig35 and Su30 remains. Again according to somebody who himself came to know from a C130 pilot that a different variant of Su30 is chosen by BAF. True or False....Time will tell.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Buy su-35.it's the best.

 

[Major 13625]

love to see su 35s

 

[omega supremme]

SU-30MS should be a good choice, they work perfectly with the Mig-29S.. But Mig-35 as a second choice should be good enough too..

I doubt Bangladesh will go for SU 30 as india already has it rather they will go for SU 35 or MIG 35.

 

[Russell]

Very interesting point I just came across. Credit goes to Md.Shahriar.
As per tender doc section 29 Cockpit, it looks like the aircraft have to be a two-seater . If that's the case then we all can say goodbye to Su 35. Only Mig35 and Su30 remains. Again according to somebody who himself came to know from a C130 pilot that a different variant of Su30 is chosen by BAF. True or False....Time will tell.

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No it doesn't HAVE to be a 2 seater....if every instance, Dual version is mentioned separately - meaning the specification ALSO applies to that...for example:

Head Up Display (HUD). The HUD should be of improved version integrated with airborne multimode and fire control radar, navigation computer, ADC, Store Management System and HOTAS. Additional display monitor/ viewing system are to be incorporated in the rear cockpit (dual version).

additional viewing system to be incorporated for the dual version

Escape System. Must be installed with type tested „Zero-Zero‟ Escape system (Ejection Seat). The seat must be equipped with all seat cartridges/ballistics and survival kits. Ejection seat must have the provision of vertical adjustment for seat pan and include auto harness release unit, auto survival kit deployment and auto life raft inflation. Survival kits of the seat must be suitable for both sea and jungle survival. One set spare seat cartridges/ballistics is to be supplied with each of the ejection seat for first replacement. The seat is to have a service life same as aircraft life. Periodicity of cartridge replacement should not be less than 03 (three) years. Longer cartridge life is desirable. It must have command ejection system from both the cockpit in case of dual version aircraft.

in case of dual version aircraft

h. In dual version aircraft the rear cockpit may have sighting and weaponry facilities.

in dual version aircraft

92. Acceptance Check Flight. Functional test flight is to be carried out by manufacturer. 03 (three) Acceptance check flight will be carried out by BAF pilot after the functional test flight. 02 (three) joint Functional Check Flight will be carried out by BAF and supplier‟s pilot in case of dual seat aircraft.

in case of dual seat aircraft

and so on and so on....

 

[Major 13625]

I doubt Bangladesh will go for SU 30 as india already has it rather they will go for SU 35 or MIG 35.

there has to be 3 international operators! none of mig 35 or su 35 meets that.

 

[Kailash Rava]

there has to be 3 international operators! none of mig 35 or su 35 meets that.

That mean SU-30 ..IT MEETS all the requirement given by the B.A.F

 

[Major 13625]

That mean SU-30 ..IT MEETS all the requirement given by the B.A.F

yes and if the su 30 has an AESA radar. BAF asks for it.

 

[Zabaniyah]

yes and if the su 30 has an AESA radar. BAF asks for it.

I'd be surprised if they get AESA. The Egyptians won't be getting it on the MiG-35's (so I'm told).

AESA radars on fighter aircraft are not as common as people assume.

 

[Major 13625]

I'd be surprised if they get AESA. The Egyptians won't be getting it on the MiG-35's (so I'm told).

AESA radars on fighter aircraft are not as common as people assume.

yea absolutely right. those requirements are pretty much foggy!

 

[ziaulislam]

But, I have read somewhere JF-17 speed is a maximum 1.6 mach and it also has a drag problem. JF-17 needs also a longer than normal time to reach a certain elevation in the sky. I do not know if it uses Chinese engines or not. Whatever we say, Chinese engines have not yet been perfected like the western ones. Even China itself uses Russian jet engines to its own PLAAF planes.

DSI limit max speed, the same way it limit f-35 speed to 1.6-1.8 depending upon altitude
the same way convention aircraft with mechanical inlet speed is limited to around 2.0-2.2 mach
there is no issue in acceleration, its thrust tow eight ratio is >1
very high speed has no relevance in current age, you cant fly high and fast too avoid radars as u used to

reliability, cost is the reason for russian vs chinese engine. why would china develop an engine and perfect it if they are not going to use in large scale

russia even now wanted to import mistral amphibious ships, are you telling me they cant build ships?

 

[Arthur]

I'd be surprised if they get AESA. The Egyptians won't be getting it on the MiG-35's (so I'm told).

AESA radars on fighter aircraft are not as common as people assume.

It's called Mig 29m2. The difference between the two is an AESA radar. The variant carrying AESA is called Mig35.

 

[Michael Corleone]

But, I have read somewhere JF-17 speed is a maximum 1.6 mach and it also has a drag problem. JF-17 needs also a longer than normal time to reach a certain elevation in the sky. I do not know if it uses Chinese engines or not. Whatever we say, Chinese engines have not yet been perfected like the western ones. Even China itself uses Russian jet engines to its own PLAAF planes.

the problem with drag has been eliminated... max is 1.6 still... and it bleeds energy fast...
basically the powertrain is not suitable for it.... maybe the engines saab uses would have suited it... but the air frame is designed around rd33 so they're stuck with that on block 1-2

Very interesting point I just came across. Credit goes to Md.Shahriar.
As per tender doc section 29 Cockpit, it looks like the aircraft have to be a two-seater . If that's the case then we all can say goodbye to Su 35. Only Mig35 and Su30 remains. Again according to somebody who himself came to know from a C130 pilot that a different variant of Su30 is chosen by BAF. True or False....Time will tell.

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i am glad you noticed.... no one mentioned this while we were talking on the other thread. but it doesnt have to be a twin seater jet.... just a seperate requirement

yes and if the su 30 has an AESA radar. BAF asks for it.

su-30 sm can be installed with a aesa radar

I'd be surprised if they get AESA. The Egyptians won't be getting it on the MiG-35's (so I'm told).

AESA radars on fighter aircraft are not as common as people assume.

egypt wont be getting because... israel!
israel and russia have some form of understanding when weapons are sold to the arabs.... arabs always buy these to f up the region

It's called Mig 29m2. The difference between the two is an AESA radar. The variant carrying AESA is called Mig35.

but the egyptians are ordering 50 mig 35 if i am correct!