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Russia's Stealth Su-57 Is a Beast, But Can Russia Afford It?

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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-stealth-su-57-beast-can-russia-afford-it-89556

It's pretty expensive for Russia's flagging economy.

The Russian defense ministry staged an impressive video shoot with four of its Su-57 stealth fighter prototypes. But the dramatic display doesn't make the Su-57 any more relevant.

The Su-57 is beautiful. It's also too expensive for Russia to buy in meaningful numbers.

In the November 2018 videos, produced by the Kremlin's Zvezda T.V., four of the twin-engine Su-57s fly in close formation with the An-12 photo plane. Two of the radar-evading prototypes land at the same time. A single Su-57 performs a flat spin.

The four Su-57s in the video account for nearly half of the 10 of stealth fighters the Russian air force has acquired since the type first flew in 2010. Two Su-57s briefly deployed to Syria in February 2018. The Kremlin claimed, without firm proof, that the planes flew strike missions during the deployment.

The Kremlin ordered its first dozen production-standard Su-57s in August 2018, hoping to form the first regular squadron some time in 2019. With military budgets declining amid an economic slump, Moscow decided to not acquire the plane in large numbers.

It's unclear how much the Su-57's development has cost so far, how much the program would need to complete development and how much each production-standard plane would set back Russian taxpayers. The U.S. military spent more than $60 billion acquiring around 180 F-22s and expects to spend $400 billion buying some 2,300 F-35s.

The Russian government tried to spin the decision to curtail the Su-57 effort. “You know that today the Su-57 is considered to be one of the best aircraft produced in the world,” Yuri Borisov, Russia’s deputy defense minister, told a T.V. audience in July 2018. “Consequently, it does not make sense to speed up work on mass-producing the fifth-generation aircraft.”

Time is running out for the Russian air force to integrate the Su-57 into its force structure. The "fifth-generation" stealth fighter began development in the early 2000s, but its fortunes are tied to the Kremlin's 2009 defense strategy, which aimed to reverse years of budget cuts and declining military readiness.

In May 2009, Dmitriy Medvedev, then Russia's president, announced a new national security strategy through the year 2020. The strategy praised former, and future, president Vladimir Putin for leading Russia out of its "political and socio-economic systemic crisis" and anticipated that Russia would "consolidate its influence in the world arena" as a leading political and economic power.

"Unprecedented" new spending backed up the new strategy, according to the 2017 edition of the International Institute for Strategic Studies' "The Military Balance" report. "The proportion of military spending increased when measure against GDP, placing Russia in a small group of nations spending over five percent of GDP on defense."

"After almost two decades of deterioration and neglect of the Russian military, Moscow began developing a more modern military force capable of power projection outside Russia’s borders," the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency reported in 2017.

The spending supported five fighter production lines -- one producing the Su-57, three making variants of the Su-27 including the Su-30, the Su-34 and the Su-35 and a fifth manufacturing versions of the MiG-29. Russian air arms received around 200 new and upgraded aircraft in 2017 and around another 100 in 2018. By comparison, the U.S. armed forces ordered more than 400 new aircraft in 2018.

An economic downturn, which shaved nearly four percent off of GDP in 2015, forced Moscow to reconsider its priorities. "In preparing the 2016 budget, there was clearly awareness that this level of spending could not be sustained," IISS reported.

A few years of higher spending had a dramatic effect on the Russian air force. "Substantial deliveries of new frontline aircraft, and their intensive use in Syria, have given the Russian air force an entirely new public face in a short period of time," analyst Keir Giles wrote in a 2017 report for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"Optimistic Russian commentators, comparing their air power specifically with that of the United States, note approximate quantitative parity with the U.S. Air Force," Giles continued.

In fact, the DIA estimated in 2017 that Russian air arms maintained just 1,000 tactical aircraft. At the same time, the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps between them possessed more than 3,000 fighters.

To support the 2009 strategy, the Kremlin needed to acquire 1,000 new airplanes and helicopters by 2020, the DIA estimated. Deepening budget cuts could force the Russian armed forces to make do with far fewer new aircraft, and just a dozen Su-57s.

In contrast, in 2018 the Americans operated several hundred F-22 and F-35 fifth-generation stealth fighters, with many more F-35s on order or in production. "Western air power experts ... note that Russia’s lack of fifth-generation aircraft, especially with their ability to provide situational awareness to friendly forces, constitutes a critical capability gap," Giles noted.

A fancy photo shoot can't reverse an economic slump, nor can it magically conjure hundreds of new stealth fighters. Russia's Su-57 might be a media star. But it's on track to play no meaningful role in Moscow's military strategy.
 
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Of course Russia can afford it. It may not have a defence budget as large as USA but still it has enough money to operate a reasonably sized 5th gen. fleet especially since it is totally indigenously developed program so Russia is not dependent on anyone else unlike F35 which was developed by a consortium of countries and still over ran deadlines and budget multiple times.
 
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Of course Russia can afford it. It may not have a defence budget as large as USA but still it has enough money to operate a reasonably sized 5th gen. fleet especially since it is totally indigenously developed program so Russia is not dependent on anyone else unlike F35 which was developed by a consortium of countries and still over ran deadlines and budget multiple times.

78 is a pretty healthy number. The US has 184 F-22 but the US has 3 times the population of Russia so it makes sense the US has 3 times as many combat jets.
 
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78 is a pretty healthy number. The US has 184 F-22 but the US has 3 times the population of Russia so it makes sense the US has 3 times as many combat jets.
Well, it is not the population rather the area that you need to cover.. I mean it does not make any difference to the aircraft whether its is flying over city of 1 million or 20 million given the area is same. But Russia has good SAMs and other alternative to defend itself.
 
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Could we have a new forum policy blacklisting National Interest trash?

The SU-57 is in a similar price range to the SU-35, actually cheaper at around 35-42 million dollars following a state mandated reduction of profit margins for the jet manufacturer. The benefits of a state-owned defence industry.

The MIC job should be to supply the state with high-quality weapons at minimal profit. They can markup the price for export orders to whatever they deem suitable. Not the other way round like they do in the west. This is how you maximise your defence budget without getting into debt.
 
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Of course Russia can afford it. It may not have a defence budget as large as USA but still it has enough money to operate a reasonably sized 5th gen. fleet especially since it is totally indigenously developed program so Russia is not dependent on anyone else unlike F35 which was developed by a consortium of countries and still over ran deadlines and budget multiple times.

They barely can. It's their own jet, but its production costs, and so do resource lines.
 
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78 is a pretty healthy number. The US has 184 F-22 but the US has 3 times the population of Russia so it makes sense the US has 3 times as many combat jets.
Are you stupid or something, they have vast area to defend in far east ( Siberia/east Siberia/ Kamchatka peninsula @Austin Powers :crazy::crazy:
 
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Ukraine and Japan are the only countries that claim Russia land. 78 Su-57 is sufficient to deter Ukraine and Japan from invading Crimea, Iturup, Kunashir.
Its for defense you stupid, Russia need at least 500 Su-57 to cover all Russian borders, And Japan in no way to Invade a Crimea, Iturup, Kunashir @Austin Powers
 
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Its for defense you stupid, Russia need at least 500 Su-57 to cover all Russian borders, And Japan in no way to Invade a Crimea, Iturup, Kunashir @Austin Powers

Russia only needs to defend Russia land from countries that lay claim to it. Ukraine claims Crimea (including Tuzla island). Japan claims Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan, Hibomai. No other country claims any Russia land. Russia only needs to defend Russia land claimed by Ukraine and Japan, not from any other country.
 
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Russia only needs to defend Russia land from countries that lay claim to it. Ukraine claims Crimea (including Tuzla island). Japan claims Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan, Hibomai. No other country claims any Russia land. Russia only needs to defend Russia land claimed by Ukraine and Japan, not from any other country.
Not only for Claims but any expected future conflict with any enemy (USA/EU/Ukraine/Japan) and 78 Su-57 is not enough for Russian defense @Austin Powers
 
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