Russia's defence pact with Pak shows Modi govt's diplomacy failure

[karan21]

Only logical reply from an Indian member!

Thank you sir @Hyperion i am a big fan of yours. I am glad you noticed me.

 

[timetravel]

Its better if Russia has more influence in Pakistan.

Russia is India's true friend. So I think its better if Russia has more leverage in Pakistan.

At the end of the day, better India-China ties and better Pakistan-Russia ties could bring India and Pakistan closer (against all expectations though )

Maybe India, Pakistan, China and Russia could all become allies. Will be great for the region. (Just keep that fanatic form of Islam in control but )

 

[Storm Force]

Pakistanis Take careful look at my table for GDP in 2015

The new global economy - CNNMoney

Now try to DIGEST the indian GDP .... let me repeat $ 2.2 trillion.

Now look at Russia....... GDP

IN TEN YEARS TIME INDIAN GDP will be dwarfing Russia....

India is playing in the big league WE HAVE OUTGROWN Russia. you can have the left overs

 

[rockstar08]

I read all the post in this thread and want to show Indians something which they don't want to accept and always in denial mode.

1. Economy wise Russia is bigger then India
   
2. Russia is far more superior in terms industrialization
   
3. Russia is bigger country then India in term of area of land
4. Russia is veto power
5. Russia produces its own weapons from basic weapons to advance weapons.
6. Russian export is more then Indian export in high end technology
7. Russia is Space superpower

Bottom line: Don't treat Russia like it is nothing without India and if Russia stop to give you excess to her advance technology now India will be finish in next years in terms high end technology know how and that is some thing west will even offer you. India is bride of west and they will fulfill every demand of her and when time goes on they stop things one by one and by that time Russia will be on Chinese/ Russian block.

how dare you underestimate supa powa india ?? they have Tejas and Arjun ...soon US will ground F-22 and F-35's and start adding Tejas

 

[Jit]

1) This article is stupid - headlined as Modi govt's diplomatic failure but the body says the failure was from prior UPA govt caused over years which it expects Modi to fix in 5 months.

2) Just look at some facts first before guessing intentions:
> Pakistan is the most untrusworthy nation - proven by its taking billions from the west in aid and 'reimbursement' for fighting the jihadi terrorists while at the same time using that money to train jihadi nuts! Why? the generals loved and love the idea of taking 25% of US aid to their own bank account, paid for by the lives of young teens of Pakistan with strapon bombs. And the bounty money for giving gps coordinates to the drone program. But the majority people of Pakistan are as bad and shameless as their elected leaders and generals, though they keep complaining. Look at the disgusting mobs that kill ahmadis, christians and Hindus everyother day; look at how shout anti Amreeka slogans while wearing shoes bought with aid money; look at how they shelter and abet jihadi nuts; look at how they go and join jihadi gangs for religion! Bottom line, Pakistan is a shameless and untrustworthy nation sustained by greed, avarice and hateful religious insecurity.

> Russia - A one man show run by Putin with visions of grandeur and aided by about 15 generals - sound familiar? (think Zia Ul Haq). Engineering is great in Russia today and Oil is plenty. But the Rouble is shot for obvious reasons of this vision, ukraine being a result of that.

Just like Pakistan, Russia will sign agreements with anyone that wants at this point.

 

[he-man]

Thank you sir @Hyperion i am a big fan of yours. I am glad you noticed me.

Tu taan yaar shoda hi ho geya

 

[he-man]

how dare you underestimate supa powa india ?? they have Tejas and Arjun ...soon US will ground F-22 and F-35's and start adding Tejas

Thank u for accepting this gospel truth.

 

[karan21]

Tu taan yaar shoda hi ho geya

Lol I was being sarcastic. But @Hyperion is one of the funniest posters here.

 

[rockstar08]

Thank u for accepting this gospel truth.

with pleasure .... kindly Tejas ke pilots ko kehna , zara halka hath raken

 

[he-man]

with pleasure .... kindly Tejas ke pilots ko kehna , zara halka hath raken

Bhari haath to mki pe rakhenge

 

[rockstar08]

Bhari haath to mki pe rakhenge

yeah that make sense, mki halka fighter hai tu bhari hath rakho , LCA bhari plane hai tu halka hath ... Got it

 

[Burhan Wani]

Nice move Prime Minister Nawaz,Ohhh i forget go nawaz go.

 

[HRK]

Pakistan doesn not want to put all egg in one basket ( Read china )

Contrary to this perception China played its role in the establishment of Pakistan-Russia relations, for most of the Indian people this positive vibes of Pak-Russia relation is a newly found factor but the fact of the matter is the efforts to revive Pak-Russia relation have its roots in Musharraf era.

 

[Always Neutral]

indian crybabys, Russia is just looking out it's interest.

Actually it reflects Russian interest in curbing Pakistan buying cheap Chinese knock offs of their products and selling them directly to Pakistan. MI 17 is the workhorse of the PAF is a good example however end of the day you need hard cash to buy from the Russians which is scarce in Pakistan. Remember if you sleep with Russia good buy with Ukraine your most reliable supplier. Most strategist worth their salts must be laughing at this article.

 

[k7x]

Contrary to this perception China played its role in the establishment of Pakistan-Russia relations, for most of the Indian people this positive vibes of Pak-Russia relation is a newly found factor but the fact of the matter is the efforts to revive Pak-Russia relation have its roots in Musharraf era.

India is not going to loose any thing , but the way Pakistan want to cooperate with every super power of the world is strange.

India has learned some hard lessons with Russia , so now started to stand on its own leg. So it is natural for Russia to find another partner.

Problem for Russia - holding India is like double edge sword.

India is going to make life difficult to Russian industry, however they need Indian money to survive now.

Eg.

isro once it develops its low cost heavy slv, Russia would loose part of its its market

Fighter jets,war ships ect ect. India's gain is Russia's loss.

T90 though far inferior to arjun, the tank was pushed into IA in large numbers , they messed the ammunition tot and hence sealed any future tank project.

Ifv, they were hoping for BMp3 but India asked its private cos to make it

Mi26 they hope we will buy few, but went with Chinook coz, Chinook can be used for so many application. Eg Kashmir flood it would have performed awesomely

Mi28 they thought we will buy it as we are current user , but we went with Apache

The list goes on and on..

Mmrca
Kolkata class
Indian Frigates instead of their design


Still India is not averse with Russia in doing business. What it demands is fair play.

And Russians will not loose Indian market completely.

Even arihant has high Russian involvement