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Russia's defence pact with Pak shows Modi govt's diplomacy failure

Russians played a nice diplomatic game.Good.
But probably now they are in a shock after our PM invited US President for RepublicDay celebrations.I dont think much going to happen in that visit.But that invitation certainly gives a strong message to our Russian Brothers.
Russia-India relations are still stronger than any other relations in our foreign policy.But our poor Western neighbours is now hoping that entire Indian diplomacy is under threat of sabotage ..
But Russia will always remain as friend in future.Paid articles cant change that.
 
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I think it is a strategic move by India and Russia... towards Afghanistan...
 
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Russia's defence pact with Pak shows Modi govt's diplomacy failure

by Rajeev Sharma Nov 23, 2014 09:37 IST

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This would go down as one of the worst strategic and diplomatic failures of India in recent times. Russia has stepped up its rapprochement with India’s arch-rival Pakistan just as India is getting closer to the United States.


The unthinkable happened on 20 November when Russia-- India’s tried and trusted friend, ally and strategic partner – signed a never-before defence cooperation agreement with Pakistan. The defence pact scripts a new history as Russia agreed to cooperate with Pakistan in combating terrorism and offered advanced counter-terrorism training to Pakistan.

The landmark Russia-Pakistan defence pact was inked during Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu’s visit to Pakistan, the first visit by a Russian Defence Minister to Pakistan in 45 years. The last visit to Pakistan was made by Soviet Union’s defence minister Andrey Grechko.

The Russian move comes just about three weeks before Russian President Vladimir Putin visits India for an annual summit between India and Russia, an exercise going on since 2000.

Russia was the first country with which India has an institutionalized mechanism of holding annual summits, signifying the extremely close political relations between the two sides. The first such Indo-Russian annual summit was held in 2000.

Till date only Japan has been added to this extremely select list of countries with which India has been having an institutionalized mechanism of holding annual summits. This explains the importance of Indo-Russian bilateral relations.

The increasing bonhomie between Russia and Pakistan marks a stunning change in the rapidly changing and evolving international statecraft. It lives up to the old adage: There are no permanent friends or permanent enemies in politics; there are only permanent interests.

The Russians had already warned of decaying ties with India way back in June when they lifted their embargo on arms supplies to Pakistan and began negotiations for sale of combat helicopters to Pakistan. Despite India’s strong protests the Russians are moving ahead with the proposed chopper sales to Pakistan and at least 20 attack helicopters are all set to be sold by the Russians to the Pakistanis.

Moscow has rubbed it further for the Indians and declared its intentions by sending its defence minister to Pakistan and by inking a defence cooperation agreement with Pakistan.

Russians have been miffed with New Delhi for several years. It started in 2012 when Russia lost contract for several big-ticket Indian defence deals and the situation exacerbated in 2013. By 2014 the Americans had usurped the number one position as India’s top arms exporter – a position that the Russians had traditionally enjoyed for decades.

Now let’s go back to the point made upfront: how the growing Russia-Pakistan synergy is a failure of Indian diplomacy in recent years.

The failure started with the previous UPA government. The failure of the present government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi is that it has failed to stem the rot for the past six months it has been in office.

While Russian deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has traveled to India since the Modi government took over, no senior political functionary of the Modi government has visited Russia.

However, all is still not lost. Signing of a defence pact between Russia and Pakistan does not mean that Russia has signed on the death warrants of Indo-Russian strategic partnership.

Similarly, Russia may have lost out on Indian arms deals worth several billion dollars, it cannot compensate for it by selling a few combat helicopters to Pakistan for a few scores of million dollars.

True, it is Russia’s way of warning India against New Delhi’s dalliance with the Americans. But the Russians also have genuine strategic interests in stepping up their bilateral cooperation with Pakistan, particularly in the sphere of security.

Russia had to open out to Pakistan in view of the upcoming thinning of American and NATO troops in Afghanistan. A lawless Afghanistan falling back into the clutches of Taliban is as hair-raising a nightmare for the Russian security managers as it is for the Indians. Pakistan is a crucial and unique stake-holder for Russia in this context.

The Indians will have to be genuinely concerned about the impact of the Russia-Pakistan defence agreement only if the Russians end up with harming Indian interests. But this is highly improbable. Russians are no fools. They won’t sacrifice a carefully-nurtured relationship with a major power like India for the sake of improving relations with a country like Pakistan.

India has erred big time in allowing its relations with Russia to sour to this extent that Russia has inked a defence pact with Pakistan. The talk of Russia selling combat helicopters to Pakistan was a mere talk. But signing of a defence pact between Russia and Pakistan is a serious business which is not conducive either to India’s national interests or to Indo-Russian friendship.

PM Modi will have to intervene in a big way to save the floundering Indo-Russian friendship. The problem needs to be fixed as early as possible. Modi’s upcoming summit with Putin in New Delhi offers this opportunity.

The writer is Firstpost Consulting Editor and a strategic analyst who tweets @Kishkindha.

Russia's defence pact with Pak shows Modi govt's diplomacy failure - Firstpost
Good in other way or another it's gives full right to India to engage diplomatically with NATO countries more and to the US.First time since independence india will free to choose it's allies and build strong relationships with Japanese, Israel and Europe and Too with US finally india will come up from that old cold war mentality which will bust many relationship myth and it will be better for our national interest.
 
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indian crybabys, Russia is just looking out it's interest.
NO we are not crybabies..we have too many options with a healthy reputation...Its all about money..We did not give a sh$t about their irregularities & then they ran to you:D
 
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Russian aversion towards Pakistan has more to do with Pakistan than India, specifically Pakistan's tilt towards USA.
This change hasn't been overnight and if it comes as a shock then that person has been either thick in the head or naïve.
This was visible in the supply of engines for JF17 and mi17 helicopters. Those contracts were not signed yesterday.
As India has tilted to USA and away from Russia, especially under the previous government, the reverse was bound to happen.
Last government was a foreign policy disaster. We ditched some of our good friends and let others out of our scope of influence.
The cancellation of airport by Maldives was the final crowning glory.
 
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Indians were warned to not vote for Modi but still they did,anyway the result are as were expected
 
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Indians were warned to not vote for Modi but still they did,anyway the result are as were expected

Warned? You are what? Some god.

BTW, we warned too not to vote for NS, but still you did.
 
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It's a failure indeed.....
need to work on that front too.....

The consequences of Russians tilting towards Pakistan is very deadly.....not for India but for the world......

I hope diplomacy comes into picture now
 
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Indians were warned to not vote for Modi but still they did,anyway the result are as were expected
So when Pakistan paying for Pak fa more than 30 billion $ and future Projects.India will opt F-35 in worst case:wave::wave:.result of this Russian diplomatic blunder what it gain if it happen hypothetically8-)
1)Russian gains a Soft loan debtor ally:lol::lol:
2)what Russia lost Most Reliable partner and Billions of dollars of Investment in defense industries. india is russia biggest importer of Arms which accounted for 15.7 billion $ Sales for Last year(pakistan Can only dream to match that) :coffee:

conclusion:Live in real world not Delusional.Russian are Intelligent they know were they should not cross Iine which pays them off heavy Later :azn::azn:
 
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Snapshot of the potential Pakistan - Russian relationship.

Pakistan has signed a milestone defense pact with Russian federation which may entail the following.

* Acquisition of Mi-35 Hind-E assault helicopters for SSG's Special Operations Task Force.

* Joint Counterterrorism training of Special Ops units

* Joint Air Force training

* Pakistan will participate in Russian tank warfare competition

* Russia will be allowed to have regular port calls and dockings at Pakistani ports

* Russia has elevated Pakistan from category D to B for arms sales.

* Smooth supply of RD-93 turbofan engines and its upgraded MA variants for JF-17 Thunder aircrafts.

* Pakistan has just established an upgrade and overhaul facility for its Mi-17 helis, which Russians will help with.

* Both states have agreed to work together in Afghanistan to make sure another civil war doesn't take place

* On economic side, Russia is interested in building a gas pipeline from Nawabshah city of Sindh to Gwadar in Balochistan which will be connected with Iran when the sanctions on Iran are lifted.

* Russia is also interested in rebuilding Pakistan's steel mills, helping with Railways and in building the Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India gas pipeline.

* Russia will also invest in Pakistan's oil and gas exploration sector which is seeing increased activity.

* Increase in bilateral trade which currently stands at just $542 million.

Horus from Pakistan Defence.


Russia has no money to invest anywhere,,it on the other hands needs investments urgently.:lol:

But i welcome russia's efforts to build a pipeline and revive pakistan's steel mills if possible,:tup:
 
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It's a failure indeed.....
need to work on that front too.....

The consequences of Russians tilting towards Pakistan is very deadly.....not for India but for the world......

I hope diplomacy comes into picture now

What are you suggesting? Improvement of relation between Russia and Pakistan is going to be the end of the world? I'm amazed by the Indian comments in this thread. They are laughable to say the least. On the one hand, some Indians are claiming that this relationship is insignificant and meaningless. India has supposedly better relations with Russia. On the other hand, some Indians are claiming 360 degree to the opposite that this relationship is dangerous not only for India, but the entire world. What a level of confusion and contradiction. Make up your mind man. You don't seem very united in your opinions.
 
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Snapshot of the potential Pakistan - Russian relationship.

Pakistan has signed a milestone defense pact with Russian federation which may entail the following.

* Acquisition of Mi-35 Hind-E assault helicopters for SSG's Special Operations Task Force.

* Joint Counterterrorism training of Special Ops units

* Joint Air Force training

* Pakistan will participate in Russian tank warfare competition

* Russia will be allowed to have regular port calls and dockings at Pakistani ports

* Russia has elevated Pakistan from category D to B for arms sales.

* Smooth supply of RD-93 turbofan engines and its upgraded MA variants for JF-17 Thunder aircrafts.

* Pakistan has just established an upgrade and overhaul facility for its Mi-17 helis, which Russians will help with.

* Both states have agreed to work together in Afghanistan to make sure another civil war doesn't take place

* On economic side, Russia is interested in building a gas pipeline from Nawabshah city of Sindh to Gwadar in Balochistan which will be connected with Iran when the sanctions on Iran are lifted.

* Russia is also interested in rebuilding Pakistan's steel mills, helping with Railways and in building the Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India gas pipeline.

* Russia will also invest in Pakistan's oil and gas exploration sector which is seeing increased activity.

* Increase in bilateral trade which currently stands at just $542 million.

Horus from Pakistan Defence.

Why does it have to be India vs Pakistan ? All of the above should lead to a stable Pakistan and hopefully a stable Afghanistan. Will that not serve India's better interests .
 
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