Mr.Cringeworth
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@PanzerKiel is a very informed and respectable member of the forum he never insults anyone your remarks are uncalled for.
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As per my info, the officer in the video is not the one we are talking about, despite having the same name.
Apart from that...
It's been almost 32 years since that engagement happened, he was a Flt Lt back then... Must be having maybe atleast 6 years of service being a F16 pilot of that time....
Which means he must be having almost 40 years of service... .... And then still an Air Commodore...
Our present air chief joined PAF in 1983.
Moreover, the old interview of the officer who downed Soviet aircraft is available somewhere on the internet..... The faces don't match either.
Of course I might be wrong.
Moreover, didn't get your last remark regarding me... Yes yes sir adjutants like me.... If you can please elaborate.
Dear....
I didn't mention anywhere that KM, the one I'm referring to, was the DG of the program.
Moreover , I don't know why it seems strange to you for an officer to retire that early.
@Knuckles @airomerix are better informed on this...... Do please confirm info in the previous posts .... Would be grateful.
As per my info, the officer in the video is not the one we are talking about, despite having the same name.
Apart from that...
It's been almost 32 years since that engagement happened, he was a Flt Lt back then... Must be having maybe atleast 6 years of service being a F16 pilot of that time....
Which means he must be having almost 40 years of service... .... And then still an Air Commodore...
Our present air chief joined PAF in 1983.
Moreover, the old interview of the officer who downed Soviet aircraft is available somewhere on the internet..... The faces don't match either.
Of course I might be wrong.
Moreover, didn't get your last remark regarding me... Yes yes sir adjutants like me.... If you can please elaborate.
Dear....
I didn't mention anywhere that KM, the one I'm referring to, was the DG of the program.
Moreover , I don't know why it seems strange to you for an officer to retire that early.
@Knuckles @airomerix are better informed on this...... Do please confirm info in the previous posts .... Would be grateful.
The KM he is referring to was also an F.16 pilot who later on shifted to JF.17's and is presently base commander Paf Bholari.
The one who shot down the Afghan aircraft retired long ago as an Air commodore.
Regarding Hamid Qadri's Su.22 gun kill,it is unconfirmed as he damaged the aircraft but did not see it going down. Later on the Soviets also confirmed 1 aircraft shot down.
One of the MiG.23MLD that KM fired at did a crash landing and was a write off.
Athar Bukhari had more than 1000 hours on the F.16 and retired as an AVM and afterwards used to be our Ambassador to Syria.
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The one who shot down the Afghan aircraft retired long ago as an Air commodore.
an addition...2014/15 russian SU 24 kill by turkish F 16F16 AA kills...total approx 75 todate (not including Swift Retort)
No-Fly Zones (USA) 2
Bosnia (USA) 4
Kosovo (USA) 1
Kosovo (Netherlands) 1
Syrian border clashes 1979-1986 (Israel) 6
Lebanon War (1982) (Israel) 44
Lebanon War (2006) (Israel) 3
Soviet-Afghan War (Pakistan) 10
Aegean Sea clashes (Turkey) 1
Venezuelan Coup 1992 (Venezuela) 3
The KM he is referring to was also an F.16 pilot who later on shifted to JF.17's and is presently base commander Paf Bholari.
The one who shot down the Afghan aircraft retired long ago as an Air commodore.
Regarding Hamid Qadri's Su.22 gun kill,it is unconfirmed as he damaged the aircraft but did not see it going down. Later on the Soviets also confirmed 1 aircraft shot down.
One of the MiG.23MLD that KM fired at did a crash landing and was a write off.
Athar Bukhari had more than 1000 hours on the F.16 and retired as an AVM and afterwards used to be our Ambassador to Syria.
don't remember where i got it from ... but if was a accurate table and someone had put the effort into it ... If it is made by you than my respect goes to you as wellWhere did you get this table from?
I made this for Pakdef when I was in the university. Looking at it for the first time after so many years !
Thank you. Very informative.F16 AA kills...total approx 75 todate (not including Swift Retort)
No-Fly Zones (USA) 2
Bosnia (USA) 4
Kosovo (USA) 1
Kosovo (Netherlands) 1
Syrian border clashes 1979-1986 (Israel) 6
Lebanon War (1982) (Israel) 44
Lebanon War (2006) (Israel) 3
Soviet-Afghan War (Pakistan) 10
Aegean Sea clashes (Turkey) 1
Venezuelan Coup 1992 (Venezuela) 3
F16 AA kills...total approx 75 todate (not including Swift Retort)
No-Fly Zones (USA) 2
Bosnia (USA) 4
Kosovo (USA) 1
Kosovo (Netherlands) 1
Syrian border clashes 1979-1986 (Israel) 6
Lebanon War (1982) (Israel) 44
Lebanon War (2006) (Israel) 3
Soviet-Afghan War (Pakistan) 10
Aegean Sea clashes (Turkey) 1
Venezuelan Coup 1992 (Venezuela) 3
2 kills, both captured on HUD. One missile missed, one confirmed hit and one confirmed guns killThe KM he is referring to was also an F.16 pilot who later on shifted to JF.17's and is presently base commander Paf Bholari.
The one who shot down the Afghan aircraft retired long ago as an Air commodore.
Regarding Hamid Qadri's Su.22 gun kill,it is unconfirmed as he damaged the aircraft but did not see it going down. Later on the Soviets also confirmed 1 aircraft shot down.
One of the MiG.23MLD that KM fired at did a crash landing and was a write off.
Athar Bukhari had more than 1000 hours on the F.16 and retired as an AVM and afterwards used to be our Ambassador to Syria.
Turkey has some kills. More than 1 I think. Pakistan has 8.F16 AA kills...total approx 75 todate (not including Swift Retort)
No-Fly Zones (USA) 2
Bosnia (USA) 4
Kosovo (USA) 1
Kosovo (Netherlands) 1
Syrian border clashes 1979-1986 (Israel) 6
Lebanon War (1982) (Israel) 44
Lebanon War (2006) (Israel) 3
Soviet-Afghan War (Pakistan) 10
Aegean Sea clashes (Turkey) 1
Venezuelan Coup 1992 (Venezuela) 3
Swift Retort. The way the Viper repositioned for the MiG-21 was something from what I heard. Hopefully one day more info comes out, but can say this, it clearly showed the enthusiasm of any fighter pilot who is passionate in his job.F16 AA kills...total approx 75 todate (not including Swift Retort)
No-Fly Zones (USA) 2
Bosnia (USA) 4
Kosovo (USA) 1
Kosovo (Netherlands) 1
Syrian border clashes 1979-1986 (Israel) 6
Lebanon War (1982) (Israel) 44
Lebanon War (2006) (Israel) 3
Soviet-Afghan War (Pakistan) 10
Aegean Sea clashes (Turkey) 1
Venezuelan Coup 1992 (Venezuela) 3
Swift Retort. The way the Viper repositioned for the MiG-21 was something from what I heard. Hopefully one day more info comes out, but can say this, it clearly showed the enthusiasm of any fighter pilot who is passionate in his job.
The move that Nauman pulled to reposition for interception, was very much what the F-16 was built for, performance and maneuverability. That's all I can say for now, but he indeed would have been anticipating prior to calling FOX 3.It was a standard routine intercept as per PAF standards from what i have heard.
Indians tried being cheeky and thought we didn't know of their strategy of flying the smaller MIG21 low and ambush PAF's fighters. But they forgot how extensive's PAF's C4I system is and PAF had a complete picture of the battlefield. They knew exactly where each and every fighter was, and what was their trajectory.I am sure Nauman must have been smirking at how clearly he could see the MIG21 before he let loose his AMRAAM.
I would say the JF17's were the ones who aggressively maneuvered their jets and immediately re-positioned themselves to lock on the Mirage 2000's.