Russian Navy Spots Foreign Submarine near Russia-Japan Border

[Aepsilons]

I am afraid that the JMSDF will turn into the fish food in just few hours.

You simply cannot compare a naval outcome that happened in more than 100 years ago to today's navy standard.

Russian Pacific Fleet would be annihilated in a conventional engagement. Their light cruiser would be dispatched by the 15 destroyers of the 4th Fleet. Their 4 destroyers would be neutralized. Our 15 destroyers that make up the 4th Fleet have powerful ASW capability and would annihilate their subs.

This is not considering the JASDF , which would coordinate with the JMSDF Marine Aviation that would simple dispatch remaining Russian subs.

There is no naval force that can challenge the JMSDF in North East Asia, except the United States Navy.

 

[Europa]

@Europa ,

What you're referring to is a civilian research ship. And that ship will be released to continue and complete its objective.

i am not taking sides in this dispute, im just discussing

was it in disputed territory?

 

[Gazprom]

I am afraid that the JMSDF will turn into the fish food in just few hours.

You simply cannot compare a naval outcome that happened in more than 100 years ago to today's navy standard.

Russia has a large no. of granits ,moskits and yakhonts . These idiots will have their surface fleet gone in hours . But more likely ,Russia would give Japan another hiroshima ,nagasaki and sadly it will be in 15 minutes of launch.

 

[Aepsilons]

In any war with russia ,you will run the high risk of nuclear warfare. Likely you guys will end up with another hiroshima and nagasaki on a 10x scale. Note here that russian warheads of 550-750 kiloton each,compared to hiroshima and nagasaki whose blast force was 20 kilotons. And a single SS-19 has six warheads each.

Russia would not dare to think of that, friend. A nuclear scenario would involve an American response, as well as a NATO reaction.

Any conflict , a hypothetical one at that, would be conventional.

 

[Gazprom]

Those are Japanese islands and they will be recovered. We do not recognize Russian control , and neither do our American allies.

Try it . Don't cry if another hiroshima and nagasaki happens.

 

[Aepsilons]

i am not taking sides in this dispute, im just discussing

was it in disputed territory?

It took place deep within the Sea of Okhotsk. The Russians claim this area, and so do we.

 

[Europa]

Try it . Don't cry if another hiroshima and nagasaki happens.

i don't think putin would want to press the nuclear button for a few islands, it would be absurd

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russian Pacific Fleet would be annihilated in a conventional engagement. Their light cruiser would be dispatched by the 15 destroyers of the 4th Fleet. Their 4 destroyers would be neutralized. Our 15 destroyers that make up the 4th Fleet have powerful ASW capability and would annihilate their subs.

This is not considering the JASDF , which would coordinate with the JMSDF Marine Aviation that would simple dispatch remaining Russian subs.

There is no naval force that can challenge the JMSDF in North East Asia, except the United States Navy.

I hate the delusional thinking, now I see that you are getting close at the level of those Vietcongs.

Good luck to think that your 150km Harpoon missiles can sink the Russian navy. And your surface vessels will get screwed up pretty badly by the Russian nuclear subs.

Your anti-sub capability is only good on the paper, while it was never proven in the real battle.

When your navy lacks the nuclear subs, then it is not wise to engage into a battle against a nuclear sub powerhouse.

 

[Gazprom]

Russia would not dare to think of that, friend. A nuclear scenario would involve an American response, as well as a NATO reaction.

Any conflict , a hypothetical one at that, would be conventional.

Any attack on Russian federation will likely lead to a premptive nuclear response. That is the current policy of the russian general staff . As for NATO if things go nuclear ,chances are most of Europe will run for the exits. USA ,if they want to commit suicide they are most welcome.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russia would not dare to think of that, friend. A nuclear scenario would involve an American response, as well as a NATO reaction.

Any conflict , a hypothetical one at that, would be conventional.

Why would the US engage a nuclear war with Russia just for the behalf of Japan?

If Russia nukes Japan, then I don't think anyone in the world would care.

 

[Aepsilons]

i don't think putin would want to press the nuclear button for a few islands, it would be absurd

The Russians will fold in this current situation. The Remilitarization of Japan will lead to greater forrays into our claimed territories. This is a reality that the Russians will simply have to get used to.

And I agree with you that Putin wouldn't dare touch the nuclear button. A nuclear attack on Japan would invite the Wrath of the United States Nuclear Response. Not something that Russia, Japan, America or the rest of the world would want.
This is why there will be no nuclear response.

Any conflict in North East Asia would be conventional.

 

[Gazprom]

i don't think putin would want to press the nuclear button for a few islands, it would be absurd

Putin will do it. If he does not ,then other nato nations will have designs for russian territory and will intepreted as weakness.Already there is a lot of pressure from the Russian general staff ,communists who are war hawk mentality and nuclear war is winnable mentality and the industrial lobby ,oiligarchs,noveau riche who are anti-war mentality and fearful of sanctions.

Though Putin is more of an industrial lobby strategist in my opinion.

 

[Aepsilons]

Why would the US engage a nuclear war with Russia just for the behalf of Japan?

If Russia nukes Japan, then I don't think anyone in the world would care.

There will be no nuclear response by Russia. Period.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

There will be no nuclear response by Russia. Period.

Sure, because Russia can easily annihilate you with the mere conventional force.

 

[Aepsilons]

Putin will do it. If he does not ,then other nato nations will have designs for russian territory and will intepreted as weakness.Already there is a lot of pressure from the Russian general staff ,communists who are war hawk mentality and nuclear war is winnable mentality and the industrial lobby ,oiligarchs,noveau riche who are anti-war mentality and fearful of sanctions.

Though Putin is more of an industrial lobby strategist in my opinion.

Nonesense. The USSR in its height folded to Kennedy. What makes you think that Russia would do what even the USSR couldn't or wouldn't do.

Sure, because Russia can easily annihilate you with the mere conventional force.

Now you've become delusional, lol.