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Oh really, then bring your arguments then.

China is closer to Pakistan than Russia is to India. lol, you did know that right?

Even Putin allowed Pakistan to get RD-93 engines. What China allow you to get.

I'm thinking Chinese strategists are trying to get Pakistan and Russia together.

Let see what happens next. As we know the crusades in Afghanistan and Iraq have failed miserably.

I dont go with your logic, how many times as China stood with you in terms of real need and selling of RD-93 does not make Russia a lesser friend to India, just pure economics.

India and Russia have had more cooperation on all fields compared to the all weather friends.
Care to disagree?
 
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Heights of hypocrisy is pakistanies thinks Pakistan is most important country in the world and without them any alliance is not completed :lol: actually they are worst headache to any nation allying to them.

I believe Russia and china do not have any love affair between them, both are using each other for their own gain.
 
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Russia's real enemy is China , their common rival and enemy is USA.

Russia will be targeting China with S400 and will pull out of the SCO when that happens.
 
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@obambam there are huge ufo activity near russian china border.... Most Aliens always been seen around nuclear stock pile, missile testing area etc etc.... After russia and china war the ufo activity shot up sharply.... The latest news indicated that russia deployed many nukes pointing towards china.... That too in huge number that can destroy china 6 times all over. When russian president came in india they had secret aggrement.... If china war india than russia will help india and if china war russia than india will help russia.... Recently pleiadians declared that japan, china and india will rule future technology leaving many western countries behind.... But that will create war. However they predicted that it will be Asia vs western world and it will be 3rd round of war.... Before it was rama empire of india (representing asia) and atlantis empire (representing europe and america).... Rama empire helped gobi army including middle east army when we got nuked.... The evidence i already posted many times and its all by scientists.... Pleiadians never wrong.... Russia dont come in asia so its likely they will join western world (and they did.... They joined or joining Nato).... In future it will be 3rd round of war between Asia vs Western world.... Russia dont like china. Pleiadians said Russia and india close because of indian nature who is friendly with its previous enemies and it dont feel shame in that.... Russia is western country who are aggressive towards its neighbours. Russia and america war never was direct.... Cold war was indirect through pakistan and taliban helped by america.... America and russia are bestfriends but russia and china are not.... Its been like this since ages.... Pleiadians also predicted that in future 3 world presidents will die in nuclear world war.... It will be 3rd nuclear war of earths life time....
Russian PM issues warning of Chinese threat to Far East
 
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Oh really, then bring your arguments then.

A}China is closer to Pakistan than Russia is to India. lol, you did know that right?

B} Even Putin allowed Pakistan to get RD-93 engines. What China allow you to get.

C} I'm thinking Chinese strategists are trying to get Pakistan and Russia together.

Let see what happens next. As we know the crusades in Afghanistan and Iraq have failed miserably.
A} Yes because Russia know that Indians not emotional fools who will become bait for Russian Interest.....

B} It was a pure buisness decission...Russia knew their are not many takers of Mig29 which directly impact RD33 engine sale and they need to do something to keep this engine line running...

C} Yes China is working on improving Russia's relationship with Pakistan but its too early to predict wether they will be successfull in that or not....
 
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Russia is no more super power now and will worry if china develop fast..

Oh really, then bring your arguments then.

China is closer to Pakistan than Russia is to India. lol, you did know that right?

Even Putin allowed Pakistan to get RD-93 engines. What China allow you to get.

I'm thinking Chinese strategists are trying to get Pakistan and Russia together.

Let see what happens next. As we know the crusades in Afghanistan and Iraq have failed miserably.


If you divide world countries- with India and with Pakistan, ratio will be 75:25
 
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Every country is worried about China. Chinese success has raised jealousy and hate particularly on the part of the Western World.

Western world is suffer from the competition syndrome: in 1980s, they were paranoid about Japan's rise now it's China.
 
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You are right, they are not as important as they used to be.

Didn't China and Russia sign a treaty of Good Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation?

It shows that China and Russia are on the same side most of the time. They only time they differ is when it comes to Pakistan and India.

Russia has a slight preference for India, while China obviously prefers Pakistan.

Russia should do the right thing and ditch India.




Slight? Typical coming from you
 
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Unlikely that Russians would worry about Chinese competing with them. Russians still dominate the world export market of arms after USA and many countries who have decades of Russian-made military infrastructure just won't be willing to change overnight to a new supplier until Russia sanctions them or something--which it won't.

Russian industry maybe smaller in size overall to China but their R&D is still next to only US. With a growing economy and a Europe in recession, things are only working in Russia's favor as it is right now the country to maximum benefit from arms sales in a booming Asia and increase its industrial clout among old clients and new upcoming states. ASEAN, AU and other such groupings are strong markets for Russian tech which may be military or dual purpose.

China can compete at production level of consumable technology but it will still take quite sometime for them to reach Russia's level. Chinese are working hard no doubt.

The Bear actually is pretty immune if you see that almost entire Asia Mongolia and Kazakhstan onward till Indonesia is a big proponent of Kremlin.

In fact, so much so that both Russia and China might easily be able to coexist in the new world order.

Unlikely that Russians would worry about Chinese competing with them. Russians still dominate the world export market of arms after USA and many countries who have decades of Russian-made military infrastructure just won't be willing to change overnight to a new supplier until Russia sanctions them or something--which it won't.

Russian industry maybe smaller in size overall to China but their R&D is still next to only US. With a growing economy and a Europe in recession, things are only working in Russia's favor as it is right now the country to maximum benefit from arms sales in a booming Asia and increase its industrial clout among old clients and new upcoming states. ASEAN, AU and other such groupings are strong markets for Russian tech which may be military or dual purpose.

China can compete at production level of consumable technology but it will still take quite sometime for them to reach Russia's level. Chinese are working hard no doubt.

The Bear actually is pretty immune if you see that almost entire Asia Mongolia and Kazakhstan onward till Indonesia is a big proponent of Kremlin.

In fact, so much so that both Russia and China might easily be able to coexist in the new world order.

You are right, they are not as important as they used to be.

Didn't China and Russia sign a treaty of Good Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation?

It shows that China and Russia are on the same side most of the time. They only time they differ is when it comes to Pakistan and India.

Russia has a slight preference for India, while China obviously prefers Pakistan.

Russia should do the right thing and ditch India.

Nice choice of words, kiddo. But what is that super awesomeness you're going to offer them that they'd consider ditching a 60 year old strategic partner for you?
 
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hahahahah what a joke , China and Russia sell each other goods and they live peacefully side by side since generations when was the last time they were at war hmm lol

What NATO sh***t propaganda

Lol are you serious? Look up the history of the cold war, and how Russia got Siberia earlier. Russia would have invaded and nuked China if the US had not refused to back Russia.
 
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Lol are you serious? Look up the history of the cold war, and how Russia got Siberia earlier. Russia would have invaded and nuked China if the US had not refused to back Russia.

There is a saying - "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Don't let the political mechanics of a pendulum baffle you. Frankly, both China and Russia now view America the same.
When we've had the pleasure of dunking biscuits in tea over Ben Affleck's flick - The Pearl Harbor. Nothing comes more surprising than the America-Nihon affair. All it took was a romantic piece of kamikaze, two drizzle of nuke and toasting over a glass of Okinawa. Before we know it, they were already the best of couples :azn:
 
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You are right, they are not as important as they used to be.

Didn't China and Russia sign a treaty of Good Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation?

It shows that China and Russia are on the same side most of the time. They only time they differ is when it comes to Pakistan and India.

Russia has a slight preference for India, while China obviously prefers Pakistan.

Russia should do the right thing and ditch India.

A pakistani talking of importance after CENTO debacle, after WoT debacle, After F16 debacle :lol: Totally Funny !!

LOL, I saw that. its nothing significant.

Not what China works with Pakistan to produce. Besides China would not compromist their relationship with Pakistan.

Remember China calls Pakistan their "Israel."

While Israel controls entire american media, i would be surprised if chinese knew where pakistan is :lol:
Moreover, Israel also defeated some country in a war... pakistan has no victory to it's name..

Oh really, then bring your arguments then.

China is closer to Pakistan than Russia is to India. lol, you did know that right?

Even Putin allowed Pakistan to get RD-93 engines. What China allow you to get.

I'm thinking Chinese strategists are trying to get Pakistan and Russia together.

Let see what happens next. As we know the crusades in Afghanistan and Iraq have failed miserably.

Lets not kid ourselves here.. ask China for their Top of the line SSN and see for yourself or ask for their top of the line J20s and see for yourself !!
 
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By 2020, no-one would seriously think that Russia would be able to compete with China in the military field.

US and China will be the two leaders, with the US still ahead.
 
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