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No, the article describes limitations on incendiary weapons.

Smoke Shells generate smoke, and then this part is applicable.

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not the treaty on incendiary weapons.

The article explicitly mentions white phosphorous, and explains how under given circumstances white phosphorous is an incendiary weapon, not a "smoke shell".

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Anyone can understand the above excerpt and its underscored segments.
 
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Why ? It was very benefiting for both sides. The Problem is, that Ukraine is not in NATO, otherwise, there would be no war.

There may well been war anyways. While the US congress has ratified NATO's founding document, many of its individual provisions aren't.

Many EU NATO members haven't even made article 5 into a law to this day, or did it in its most weak interpretation (consult to provide military aid within 60 days)

NATO charter is not too far ahead of the Budapest.

When Turkey shot down the Russian jet, the first thing EU heads did was to call each other, and assure that nobody will back Turkey's possible article 5 invocation. And Turks are NATO's No. 2 country.
 
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That makes sense
Doesn't matter though....one NATO plane shot in NATO or neutral airspace and we'll have a no fly zone in Ukr and the legacy Russkie AF shot down from the skies like flies. That's why they won't dare

They're up to their necks fighting Ukr, they don't have the stomach to fight a real, modern military.
I'm afraid they have prepared to fight NATO..Ukraine seems like a small game for them..

They know they can't beat NATO conventionally though.. but hey these guys have the Ultimate weapon and in huge quantities.. NATO also won't dare to escalate up there..
 
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I'm afraid they have prepared to fight NATO..Ukraine seems like a small game for them..

They know they can't beat NATO conventionally though.. but hey these guys have the Ultimate weapon and in huge quantities.. NATO also won't dare to escalate up there..
You must be blind
Fight NATO? Who? That circus stuck in the mud for the last 3 months? Only idiots could seriously apreciate the Russkie "army" after this shit show.....no sane country will ever buy a gun from them...
 
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Yes economically it made sense.
But strategically and millitarily, no. Because Eastern Europe is a liability in that regard. Again i am seeing this in the context of US umbrella. Like how far is US and major Western European nations wiling to sacrifice their own citizens and soldiers for a nation in eastern most parts, that are on the doorstep of Russia? There is a psychological treshold. We are not talking about nice words and wishful thinking that prevails during peactime. Because when war breaks out, reality starts to sink in. Why integrate so many new countries on the EU eastern border if you dont have a strong Army to protect them (leaving out US leadership and full spectrum NATO mobilization for now).


You just answered the question to you first answer. Its takes more political energy to cater to so many states and make eveybody happy. If Western Europe had a United political rule and united Army, eastward expansion of EU is a no brainer. But EU has really been riding on the coat tail of US millitary might.
Why you asume the Eastern Europe is a liability in that regard? You kinda don`t see the potential of the countries in the Eastern flank. The countries of Central Eastern Europe have a bigger potential than Russia. The only difference is nuclear, which is as well one the goals of NATO, not to proliferate, otherwise a weapon would be not difficult to build.

Anyways, Russia is struggling in fighting the poorest land of Europe, which makes this Business purely academical.
 
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Why you asume the Eastern Europe is a liability in that regard? You kinda don`t see the potential of the countries in the Eastern flank. The countries of Central Eastern Europe have a bigger potential than Russia. The only difference is nuclear, which is as well one the goals of NATO, not to proliferate, otherwise a weapon would be not difficult to build.

Anyways, Russia is struggling in fighting the poorest land of Europe, which makes this Business purely academical.
Because he's an idiot who thinks that EE belongs to his idol,herr Putler. He's upset that his masters army is being decimated, instead of those Eastern Europeans bowing to the fake tiger riding judoka
 
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Why you asume the Eastern Europe is a liability in that regard? You kinda don`t see the potential of the countries in the Eastern flank. The countries of Central Eastern Europe have a bigger potential than Russia.

I see them as liability because neither they or Western Europe is united under single political rule and single armed forces. Again i am seeing this through a non-NATO lense. In a hypothetical situation where Europe has to stand up for itself, alone.

Anyways, Russia is struggling in fighting the poorest land of Europe, which makes this Business purely academical.

True Ukraine was poorest man in Europe but it has recieved massive political, economical and millitary help from Europe and USA, short of only boots on the ground. I wouldnt overestimate Russia, neither underestimate it looking at the history.
 
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Because he's an idiot who thinks that EE belongs to his idol,herr Putler. He's upset that his masters army is being decimated, instead of those Eastern Europeans bowing to the fake tiger riding judoka
yeah, Russia is the biggest country on the planet with 145M people, but it has to expand to be stable. I just think the internal policy there is kinda not effective ;)
 
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This war shows that Europe has been sleepwalking under US protection.

It is clear that without the US, Europe neither has political cohesion or millitary coordination to stand against a Russian game in its own backyard.

Europe should have created a combined Armed Forces long time ago. While its economic and market power is Tier 1 together with USA and China, its hard power (millitary) and political side is very shaky. Without strong armed forces under single political rule, Europe will never achieve its goal of being a equal to the likes of US and China.

Sad but unfortunately also true
At the same time, ruSSia is absolutely failing in its own backyard
A still from one of the early March videos. Apparently, Russia has deployed the Su-57 on the periphery of the war zone & border while it's using some of the latest long-range missiles such as the R37M.

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You know that was a term the Nazis used for the elimination of the Jews. They would call it "evacuation". When they secretly met at the famous villa in Berlin for the Wansee Conference run by Adolf Eichman and the brutal & savage Reinhard Heydrich and 15 members of the senior Nazi Party of the German gov. as well as representatives of the Interior Ministry, Foreign Ministry, Justice Ministry and Ministers of the Eastern Territories such as Poland, they discussed Hermann Goering's plan for the "Final Solution" and during the entire meeting, they would use the term "evacuate" to define the gassing and shooting and starving and whichever way they were going to kill off the Jews and all others in the concentration camps. Not once in the meeting that lasted several hours did they use the term "kill".
At the present day, the R-37M is only integrated to the MiG-31BM, I'm even dubious about the interest of integrating this on other platforms, it's probably the only potential asset that may be used against an AWACS or Tanker kept out from long range SAMs profile...
And what d'you want to do with a 600kg R-37M? It'd already impressive if this thing can pull a 20-24G manoeuvre. You need the quarter to dodge a missile. Even a basic trainer sailplane has no issues at pulling 6G, some competition ones are rated for 9G if not more... R-37M was designed to shoot down AWACS, bombers, tankers, cargoes and if you have some ruSSian SS war crimes urges, some airliners, you know, MH-17, South Korean Airlines flight 007... It's not an MBDA Meteor pulling 40G or a MICA-NG or IRIS-T pulling 50G...
Unfortunately, UkrAF has no such platforms to shoot down while, since they can rely on NATO intelligence, the NOSTRADAMUS detects stealth objects like a B-2 from 3000km+ with 5km accuracy, and, according to Indian AF, the Su-57 is nowhere as stealth as announced ...
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Time to consider Putin up a nice SAM trap to make UAC pay for the destruction of the An-225 Mryia by ruining the future sales of the Su-57...
Once the Orcs kicked back into Mordor, the only thing Rosoboronexport will still be able to sell will be some Avtomata Kalashnikovas.

Stalin had no issues at teaming with Hitler, and he didn't needed the naZis to orchestrate the Holodomor in Ukraine and Moldova.
Putler speaks like naZis did, thinkslike naZis did and actslike naZis did.
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So let me introduce you to a REAL naZi
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This war shows that Europe has been sleepwalking under US protection.
It is clear that without the US, Europe neither has political cohesion or millitary coordination to stand against a Russian game in its own backyard.
Europe should have created a combined Armed Forces long time ago. While its economic and market power is Tier 1 together with USA and China, its hard power (millitary) and political side is very shaky. Without strong armed forces under single political rule, Europe will never achieve its goal of being a equal to the likes of US and China.
Sad but unfortunately also true
At the same time, ruSSia is absolutely failing in its own backyard.
We're advocating for a way more integrated EU defence policy but the issues come on one side from the little "Atlantists" who all hammer that the EU can't defend itself w.o. the Yankees, which is simply ridiculous : our cumulated armed forces have 50% more personnel, and we have more combat aircraft and of better quality than the Ru ones, when it comes to the Eurocanards, these are better than US jets.
AMX-Leclerc survived Konkurs and Kornet direct hits in Yemen with just some scratches and damages to optics, etc...
But the main issue is Germany which, for historical reasons, insists to rely on soft power alone... Actually, it could be OK, they can even have a smaller army, all that would be necessary would be spending their 2%, we can organize the remainder, Let Germany be the good cop and France be the bad cop.
It's a double edged sword taking Russian funds to pay Ukraine for reconstruction -- because what about the rest that was unnecessarily destroyed due to Western interference? This could set a precedence as the video mentioned violating private property rights, just because someone is close to someone and you take there assets. As for the Marshall Plan, good luck with inflation and all and we could be headed into a recession type situation down the road.
It was destroyed due to ruSSian, not western interference! Ukraine is a SOVEREIGN NATION and MEMBER OF THE UN. ruSSia has no business here and is acting in absolute violation of ALL international laws. If you have complaints, call Vladolf Putler, BTW, I let you guess who will have issues with food! This rascal is just blackmailing the whole third-world with an holodomor just like Stalin forced Ukraine to bow to the Soviets : by famine!
So, Mordor army acts like the Waffen-SS or the Orcs, while Putler is into starving the poorest on the planet...
Actually, it's high time for a Flying Tigers air-regiment in Ukrainian Air Force, let's field serious aircraft including those able to bust S-400 batteries and enforce an absolute air superiority and nonetheless a no fly zone, but also a no drive zone and a no float zone...
Moreover, US ships can covertly demolish ruSSian spy satellites using the SM-3 where these can't detect ASAT launches.

If Putler was so concerned about an alleged oppression against Russian-speaking Ukrainians by some Nazis [funny fact, Zelenskyi is of a Russian-speaking family and is a Jew... How funny, the Azov battalion didn't tried to murder him], well, Putler should have done just like Israel : send special forces in protection and evacuate them to Russia just like the Spetsznaz evacuated Yanukovich!!!
And don't tell me Russia lacks of room and has too much population :
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OK, such projection is a bit exaggerated, Russia's real size is about the half of Africa:
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The population is about the 10th of China and not even what France+Germany cumulate, and they don't even have scouted all available natural resources...
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Actually, it's super-easy to migrate to Russia...
So, what's the point of Putler's expansionism?
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What can Russia bring is this:
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Guess why ruSSian waffen-SS is looting things like washing machines? All those SS from Siberia have never seen one! Chechen are more advanced, they stole harvesting machines, but surely have pestered when they got that these freaking expensive stuff can be remotely blocked and have satellite tracking too!
Well not all Russians don't have toilets... Some even have $75,000 toilets in their aircraft...
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You must be blind
Fight NATO? Who? That circus stuck in the mud for the last 3 months? Only idiots could seriously apreciate the Russkie "army" after this shit show.....no sane country will ever buy a gun from them...
So why you don't attack them since you seem blinded by your dumb ideology more than logic, rationality and reality..
 
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At the same time, ruSSia is absolutely failing in its own backyard

Conqouring land equal to size of Great Britain is hardly failing. It may have failed to take entire Ukraine in one go, if that was its initial intention. Regardless it looks like all Russian speaking areas in south Ukraine will be fully under Russian control, as of now.
 
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Conqouring land equal to size of Great Britain is hardly failing. It may have failed to take entire Ukraine in one go, if that was its initial intention. Regardless it looks like all Russian speaking areas in south Ukraine will be fully under Russian control, as of now.
Aren't you Russian trolls ashamed of yourselves sometimes? Conquering land the size of Britain? Since when did Russia conquer over 200.000 Square km? Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts are barely 50k Square km put together, they're not fully conquered yet,and a big chunk of them were allready under Russian ocupation before the invasion.
 
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I see them as liability because neither they or Western Europe is united under single political rule and single armed forces. Again i am seeing this through a non-NATO lense. In a hypothetical situation where Europe has to stand up for itself, alone.
The EU is the potential( and pretty funtional ) single political rule and economic rule.
Militarly Europe has much more potential and will find a way via the EU in the end,
Nothing unites so much as a commom enemy.

For eastern Europe, don`t worry, the Germans will defend the Lidls.

You assume, there would be no NATO, it`s very unlikely, otherwise you would have nuclear proliferation.


True Ukraine was poorest man in Europe but it has recieved massive political, economical and millitary help from Europe and USA, short of only boots on the ground. I wouldnt overestimate Russia, neither underestimate it looking at the history.
Well, until now they got less Military help in USD, that is the yearly polish furniture export( very huge ). Now they are staring to get help with those 40B package. Before the war many Ukrainians were working in the EU, as the salaries were better, than in Russia, this is not help, rather better policy.
 
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