Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[CAPRICORN-88]

It’s like saying, “he died of sudden deacceleration of his aerial speed” and not mentioning that he fell out of a plane.

We can see how useful these systems are.


I guess the pentagon will worry only to the extent they are using Russian Atlant class cruisers.

Stop making me laughed with your childish reply.

Only another child will go along with these type of argument.

 

[monitor]

Ukraine's struck on Moskva cruiser is confirmed by the Russian news agencies.

Russia is the first country losing its flagship against a state which doesn't have a naval force.

RIP MoKova

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

I guess that is why the US is not scared and have to threaten China not to supply any of their weapons to Russia.

Are Chinese weapons GAME CHANGER?

 

[sammuel]

​

~​

confirmed :

​

Russia says blast cripples Black Sea flagship, Ukraine claims missile strike​

A satellite image shows a view of Russian Navy's guided missile cruiser Moskva at port, in Sevastopol, Crimea, April 7, 2022. Picture taken April 7, 2022. Satellite image 2022 Maxar Technologies/Handout via REUTERS


KYIV/LVIV, Ukraine, April 14 (Reuters) - Russia said on Thursday the flagship of its Black Sea fleet was seriously damaged and its crew evacuated following an explosion that a Ukrainian official said was the result of a missile strike.

Russia's defence ministry said a fire on the Moskva missile cruiser caused ammunition to blow up, Interfax news agency reported.

It did not say what caused the fire but Maksym Marchenko, the Ukrainian governor of the region around the Black Sea port of Odesa, said the Moskva had been hit by two Ukrainian-made Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles.

"Neptune missiles guarding the Black Sea caused very serious damage," he said in an online post.

Ukraine's defence ministry did not respond to a request for comment and Reuters was unable to verify either side's claims.

The Moskva is the second major ship known to have suffered serious damage since the start of the war. Last month Ukraine said it had destroyed a landing support ship, the Orsk, on the smaller Sea of Azov.

Russia's navy has launched cruise missiles into Ukraine and its activities in the Black Sea are crucial to supporting land operations in the south of the country, where it is battling to seize full control of the port of Mariupol.

Russian news agencies said the Moskva, commissioned in 1983, was armed with 16 anti-ship Vulkan cruise missiles with a range of at least 700 km (440 miles).

Russia says blast cripples Black Sea flagship, Ukraine claims missile strike

Russia said on Thursday the flagship of its Black Sea fleet was seriously damaged and its crew evacuated following an explosion that a Ukrainian official said was the result of a missile strike.

www.reuters.com

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Ukraine's struck on Moskva cruiser is confirmed by the Russian news agencies.

Russia is the first country losing its flagship against a state which doesn't have a naval force.

RIP MoKova

AFAIK they did not.

They only confirmed that there was a fire.

Care to share a link from Russia Ministry of Defense with us for our information.

 

[Viet]

russian will rather be happy they lost the flagship navy asset due to there idiot navy man blow it up by them self ... rather then admit it was hit by ukrnaians lmao

hmm wonder did they got drunk and set it self on fire ha ha...very professional lol

It’s all about face. The Russians behave no different to some folks in Far East. Antiship missiles are feared weapons. Much like antitank missiles. This flagship cruiser is old. time to scrap it. Putin should acknowledge the loss and move on.

 

[Viet]

You sure about that?

Russian PLAN A was to topple Zelenskky administration but Ukrainian forces defeated Russian forces in Northern sectors of the country.

Ukraine Situation Report: Kyiv Region Now Fully In Government Control According To Defense Official

After five weeks of fierce fighting, Ukraine has officially rebuffed Moscow's attempt to sack Kyiv, at least for now.

www.thedrive.com

Destination Disaster: Russia’s Failure At Hostomel Airport

www.oryxspioenkop.com

Does NOT looks like "Russia forces still advancing and taking one city after after" to me.

Russian PLAN B is to annex Donbas. Russian forces are regrouping for renewed push into Donbas in accordance.

Russian forces might take Mariupol but Ukrainian forces will counterattack from another direction when possible.

After 22 year Putin rule Russians become a folk of liars. Lavrov is the world’s most famous liar.

 

[DF41]

The Pentagon must be reading this news with much distress.

IF it is true Ukraine's supersonic Neptune, a modified KH35 can hit and sink the Russian Navy Moskva cruiser, what will happened to their navy off the coast of China and in her backyard.

Although IMO the Moskva is a dated warships like many should to be decommissioned.

There have been far to many incidence of fire on Russian warships.

So what the Chinese Colonels were saying may be true.

All it takes is just 4 direct missiles hit and it is all over for any US Aircraft Carrier.

Mind you, China missiles are HYPERSONIC and more deadly as they can't be detected until it is too late.

Correction, or just a mere difference in opinion.

A hit from Chinese AShCM will be sufficient for it to be over for any USA carrier.

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier. As well as raining DF21s DF26s from high above.

No shit about bulkheads and spaces to contain the hellfire that will likely engulf the entire carrier.


And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end.

Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.

In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.

YJ-12 - Wikipedia

There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .

China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?

This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].

The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514284502964744202

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514285355209572355

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514286316133011464

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514338527009513474

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514358741319225360

 

[serenity]

Stop making me laughed with your childish reply.

Only another child will go along with these type of argument.

Reel it back man. US navy is much larger and stronger than Russian navy. Old Slava that has not modernized unlike their other two, only have one fire control radar with limited angle coverage and two ancient old search radars. USN and PLAN ships have modern AESAs and in China's case, dual band AESAs that cover all quadrants at the same time and can engage, search track, and provide fire control solution for guidance on dozens of targets. You shouldn't use Russia's oldest ship as a measure of US newer ones. Even for Russia this ship has not been modernized like the other two still in service of this class.

China hasn't and will not be sending military equipment unless it is getting involved in this war which is ridiculous and only foolish folks think China wants anything to do with a European war it can benefit nothing from even if full victory and half of Eastern Europe goes to Russia.

Military sales is not welcome by Russia as it would make them look bad so they feel anyway and also the cost of that would be intense western economic action against China. There's just no point.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Is it a large combat ship ? Then this is a serious escalation of the war. Very bad news. Russia getting cornered is not good thing for the world.

West needs to try for a peace deal immediately. Hopefully Russia will also cooperate.

the war already escalated , how hitting a ship can be considered as escalation ?

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Reel it back man. US navy is much larger and stronger than Russian navy. Old Slava that has not modernized unlike their other two, only have one fire control radar with limited angle coverage and two ancient old search radars. USN and PLAN ships have modern AESAs and in China's case, dual band AESAs that cover all quadrants at the same time and can engage, search track, and provide fire control solution for guidance on dozens of targets. You shouldn't use Russia's oldest ship as a measure of US newer ones. Even for Russia this ship has not been modernized like the other two still in service of this class.

China hasn't and will not be sending military equipment unless it is getting involved in this war which is ridiculous and only foolish folks think China wants anything to do with a European war it can benefit nothing from even if full victory and half of Eastern Europe goes to Russia.

Military sales is not welcome by Russia as it would make them look bad so they feel anyway and also the cost of that would be intense western economic action against China. There's just no point.

That is not what I am even laughing about.

 

[bobo6661]

Sorry, everything you listed were 'special military operations'.

Think from now on all wars will be called special operations

russian will rather be happy they lost the flagship navy asset due to there idiot navy man blow it up by them self ... rather then admit it was hit by ukrnaians lmao

hmm wonder did they got drunk and set it self on fire ha ha...very professional lol

Yee that puzzels me, its was the same with fuel depo that ukraine hit

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514284502964744202

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514285355209572355

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514286316133011464

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514338527009513474

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514358741319225360

Nazi everywhere says "defintly" not a nazi state

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Right now I am also laughing at this as well.
Yallen has convinced herself that the Rule based International Order by the US is really International Law.

She better start working at the US inflation at 8.2% which many experts have openly disagreed. They said it is as high as 20%. Action against China will only exacerbate the US economy.

Yes. It is true China has allowed the RMB exchange rate to rise and exporters are increasing their prices.

So is threatening China over Russia helpful to the US?

U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen warns countries subverting sanctions imposed on Russia that they'll face consequences for their actions. "Sanctioning countries will not be indifferent to actions that undermine the sanctions," she said. (April 13)
Source: AP

 

[bobo6661]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514483451805802496

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514396384161673225