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Wow! So you want to tell me that it needs 1 man per street to evaluate Bucha? This is really one of the silliest statements i ever heard...
Ever? What kind of COMBAT experience do you have for you to use the word 'ever'? The word 'ever' usually imply PREVIOUS knowledge and experience to use as reference against the current event. So how much COMBAT experience do you have in evacuating civilians out of a city under enemy attack?

 
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Like in this map, if I am in Ukrainian Position, which is the front line? The Black line or the Red Line?

Wow! So for you the "front" is a small area, maybe less than a meter in depth, a "line"?

You don't make plan from scouting the next town over, you make plan to scout the point of entry, the point of convergence. Both were not Bucha. I would tell you where it was but then I remember you have none Military Experience, and you know shit about tactical map and tactical situation.

Well, you see the stripe of undeveloped land between Irpin and Kiew? Where the attack to retake Irpin was moved along? Having some ToS in Bucha with thermobaric, the whole attack would have turned into ashes. Cause it is in range if the ToS were in Bucha. So knowing what is at the entrance of Irpin wouldnt helped you in a see of fire. Maybe this little example show you that "front" is not only the area the soldiers are positioned opposite. "Front" is all what have the range to impact, let alone air support or pinpoint missiles.

Yeah, you have no answer, nice try. And you completely abandoned your "Bombing" argument.

LOL, i didnt "abandoned" bombing. I didnt say that i would not bombing. But i also didnt say that i would bombing. I only say that bombing is a possibility.
 
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Message to me fromAppolon.

'What does UK say about russian collaborateurs?'

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Your so desperate that it really feels like your on a payroll :woot:

Check this out 👇

MoD Russia, [4/1/2022 9:49 PM]
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Fake:
Russian mines endanger navigation in the Black Sea. This was stated by the President of Ukraine Zelensky during his speech before the Parliament of Norway.

Reality:
The Russian Ministry of Defence denied Zelensky’s statement. The Russian Defence Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov (https://****/mod_russia_en/526), stated that the Ukrainian Navy, from February 25th to March 4th, deployed 420 anchor mines in the Azov and Black Seas. All mines are of an outdated design; as a result of a breakage of the cables, at least 10 of them went into a “free floating”. One mine was discovered and neutralized by Turkish sailors. The whereabouts of the remaining Ukrainian mines is currently unknown.
The Russian Federation opens on a daily basis, from 08:00 to 19:00, a safe corridor with a length of 80 and a width of 3 nautical miles. All this is being done while Ukraine continues blocking at least 68 foreign ships in Odessa, Nikolaev and Chernomorsk.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #FakeNews
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 5:29 AM]
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🇷🇺Footage of evacuation of Izyum residents by Russian servicemen.

▫️The evacuation was carried out during shelling of residential areas from the positions of the AFU and Nationalist’ Battalions.

#Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 6:54 AM]
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🇷🇺Specialists from the International Mine Action Centre of the Russian Armed Forces have started humanitarian demining in Lugansk People’s Republic.

▫️The group includes demining, robotics and explosive ordnance disposal units.

▫️The LPR territories liberated from AFU units and nationalist battalions will be cleared using Uran-6 robotic demining complex, which has proved its worth during special missions in the Syrian Arab Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh.

#Russia #Ukraine #demining
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 11:04 AM]
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#MoD_art
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 4:40 PM]
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🗓 Top News Today

🚛Russian servicemen delivered humanitarian aid to Izyum (https://****/mod_russia_en/616), Kharkov region, for the first time.

💥High-precision air-based missiles (https://****/mod_russia_en/626) near the railway Lozovaya and Pavlograd stations destroyed armoured vehicles, ammunition and fuel tanks sent to reinforce the Ukrainian troops in Donbass.

💥Iskander precision (https://****/mod_russia_en/626) strike on the defence headquarters in Kharkov city on Thursday, March 31, confirmed the killing of more than 100 nationalists and mercenaries from Western countries.

◽️Specialists from the International Mine Action Centre (https://****/mod_russia_en/623) of the Russian Armed Forces have started humanitarian demining in Lugansk People’s Republic.

◽️Despite all the difficulties and obstacles posed by Kiev, in the past 24 hours, without the participation of the Ukrainian authorities, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees and the International Committee of the Red Cross, 14,168 (https://****/mod_russia_en/628) people have been evacuated (https://****/mod_russia_en/628) to Russia, including 891 children.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/4/2022 1:35 PM]
🇷🇺🇺🇳Meeting was held in Moscow between the Deputy Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation, Colonel-General Alexander Fomin, and the UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Martin Griffiths, during which the situation in Ukraine was discussed.

▫️Deputy Minister noted the successful joint work with representatives of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs accredited to the Russian Defence Ministry in Moscow. Joint Coordination Headquarters for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine, established in Russian Defence Ministry, regularly transmits documents with objective information on the humanitarian situation in Ukraine to UN staff.

▫️Russian Defence Ministry informed Martin Griffiths about the increase in humanitarian assistance to the population of Ukraine in the areas controlled by the Russian Armed Forces, as well as in the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics.

▫️Russian side emphasized that the key factor for Russian Defence Ministry in the joint delivery of humanitarian aid to the civilian population of Ukraine with the UN is to ensure the safety of the Organization's employees.

▫️Kiev uncontrollably distributed weapons to the population, which led to an increase in banditry and looting. Moreover, the number of incidents involving the use of weapons is steadily increasing, which can lead to the death of UN staff.

▫️It was also noted that the Ukrainian authorities have launched an information campaign to discredit Russian servicemen.

▫️For this purpose, provocations are used and staged incidents are created. A vivid example is the accusation of the Russian Armed Forces of an airstrike on a maternity hospital in Mariupol. On the eve it became known that the main character of the reports in the media denies the version of the air raid on the maternity hospital from the Russian side. According to her, nationalists from Azov units used several women in labor to film a report in a hospital destroyed, allegedly by Russia, according to a pre-prepared scenario. False information was spread by Western media.

▫️Russian Ministry of Defence has shown concrete evidence of genocide and brutality of the Ukrainian leadership and paramilitary units towards their own population.

▫️Deputy Minister of Defence of Russia said that the humanitarian situation in Ukraine is deteriorating. First of all, this is due to actions of Ukrainian authorities and nationalist battalions that continue to block citizens in cities.

▫️UN Deputy Secretary-General has been informed about the situation that has developed in connection with Kiev's sabotage of the regime of open humanitarian corridors. It is indicated that the Russian side has been creating every day since March 4 all conditions to ensure the safety of humanitarian corridors for the evacuation of civilians and foreign citizens in the eastern and western directions. However, the convoys of refugees come under intense fire from AFU and national battalions, including mortars and large-caliber small arms fire. At the same time, despite this opposition, more than 123,000 people were saved only through humanitarian corridor from Mariupol to east without participation of Ukrainian side.

▫️On April 4, from 06:00, Russia reopened humanitarian corridor to rescue foreign citizens and civilians from Mariupol. At the same time, the Russian side is ready to ensure the entry of ships into the port of Berdyansk for evacuation of foreign citizens.

▫️67 foreign vessels continue to be blocked in Ukrainian ports. Every day from 08:00 to 19:00 (Moscow time), Russian Armed Forces open the maritime humanitarian corridor, which is a safe lane in the south-west direction. However, the threats of shelling and the high mine danger created by AFU do not allow ships to safely go to the open sea.

▫️For his part, M. Griffiths noted the importance of such contacts in order to solve complex humanitarian issues in crisis regions of the world.

▫️An understanding has been reached on the continuation of regular interaction.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/5/2022 4:01 AM]
🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

▫️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

💥On the evening of April 4, high-precision, long-range sea-based weapons near Ochakov destroyed a training centre for Ukrainian special operations forces used, among other things, to house foreign mercenaries.

💥High-precision air-based missiles have destroyed 4 fuel depots for supplying groups of Ukrainian troops near Kremenets, Cherkasy, Zaporozhye and Novomoskovsk.

✈️💥During the night, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 134 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 8 command posts and communication hubs, 1 radar for the S-300 missile system, 1 launcher of Tochka-U missile system, 6 ammunition depots and 2 fuel depots, as well as 85 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

💥Russian Air Defence means shot down 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the air near Chernobaevka, Industrialnaya, Gurty and Nizhnyaya Krynka.

📊In total, 125 Ukrainian aircraft and 91 helicopters, 398 unmanned aerial vehicles, 226 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1,969 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 214 multiple launch rocket systems, 852 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,873 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

❗️According to confirmed information, in Moschun, 23 kilometres north-west of Kiev, on the evening of April 5, servicemen of the 72nd Ukrainian main centre for psychological operations carried out another staged shooting of civilians allegedly killed by violent actions of the Russian Armed Forces for further distribution through the Western media.

▫️Similar events have now been organized by the Ukrainian special services in Sumy, Konotop and other cities.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en
 
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Wow! So for you the "front" is a small area, maybe less than a meter in depth, a "line"?
That is outright stupid. It does not mean literally some physical measurement. You are being pedantic because you have no idea of what you are talking about and you are trying, in vain I would add, to bog down the discussion with stupid details.

 
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MoD Russia, [4/1/2022 9:49 PM]
[ Photo ]
Fake:
Russian mines endanger navigation in the Black Sea. This was stated by the President of Ukraine Zelensky during his speech before the Parliament of Norway.

Reality:
The Russian Ministry of Defence denied Zelensky’s statement. The Russian Defence Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov (https://****/mod_russia_en/526), stated that the Ukrainian Navy, from February 25th to March 4th, deployed 420 anchor mines in the Azov and Black Seas. All mines are of an outdated design; as a result of a breakage of the cables, at least 10 of them went into a “free floating”. One mine was discovered and neutralized by Turkish sailors. The whereabouts of the remaining Ukrainian mines is currently unknown.
The Russian Federation opens on a daily basis, from 08:00 to 19:00, a safe corridor with a length of 80 and a width of 3 nautical miles. All this is being done while Ukraine continues blocking at least 68 foreign ships in Odessa, Nikolaev and Chernomorsk.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #FakeNews
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 5:29 AM]
[ Video ]
🇷🇺Footage of evacuation of Izyum residents by Russian servicemen.

▫️The evacuation was carried out during shelling of residential areas from the positions of the AFU and Nationalist’ Battalions.

#Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 6:54 AM]
[ Video ]
🇷🇺Specialists from the International Mine Action Centre of the Russian Armed Forces have started humanitarian demining in Lugansk People’s Republic.

▫️The group includes demining, robotics and explosive ordnance disposal units.

▫️The LPR territories liberated from AFU units and nationalist battalions will be cleared using Uran-6 robotic demining complex, which has proved its worth during special missions in the Syrian Arab Republic and Nagorno-Karabakh.

#Russia #Ukraine #demining
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 11:04 AM]
[ Photo ]
#MoD_art
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/2/2022 4:40 PM]
[ Photo ]
🗓 Top News Today

🚛Russian servicemen delivered humanitarian aid to Izyum (https://****/mod_russia_en/616), Kharkov region, for the first time.

💥High-precision air-based missiles (https://****/mod_russia_en/626) near the railway Lozovaya and Pavlograd stations destroyed armoured vehicles, ammunition and fuel tanks sent to reinforce the Ukrainian troops in Donbass.

💥Iskander precision (https://****/mod_russia_en/626) strike on the defence headquarters in Kharkov city on Thursday, March 31, confirmed the killing of more than 100 nationalists and mercenaries from Western countries.

◽️Specialists from the International Mine Action Centre (https://****/mod_russia_en/623) of the Russian Armed Forces have started humanitarian demining in Lugansk People’s Republic.

◽️Despite all the difficulties and obstacles posed by Kiev, in the past 24 hours, without the participation of the Ukrainian authorities, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees and the International Committee of the Red Cross, 14,168 (https://****/mod_russia_en/628) people have been evacuated (https://****/mod_russia_en/628) to Russia, including 891 children.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/4/2022 1:35 PM]
🇷🇺🇺🇳Meeting was held in Moscow between the Deputy Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation, Colonel-General Alexander Fomin, and the UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Martin Griffiths, during which the situation in Ukraine was discussed.

▫️Deputy Minister noted the successful joint work with representatives of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs accredited to the Russian Defence Ministry in Moscow. Joint Coordination Headquarters for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine, established in Russian Defence Ministry, regularly transmits documents with objective information on the humanitarian situation in Ukraine to UN staff.

▫️Russian Defence Ministry informed Martin Griffiths about the increase in humanitarian assistance to the population of Ukraine in the areas controlled by the Russian Armed Forces, as well as in the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics.

▫️Russian side emphasized that the key factor for Russian Defence Ministry in the joint delivery of humanitarian aid to the civilian population of Ukraine with the UN is to ensure the safety of the Organization's employees.

▫️Kiev uncontrollably distributed weapons to the population, which led to an increase in banditry and looting. Moreover, the number of incidents involving the use of weapons is steadily increasing, which can lead to the death of UN staff.

▫️It was also noted that the Ukrainian authorities have launched an information campaign to discredit Russian servicemen.

▫️For this purpose, provocations are used and staged incidents are created. A vivid example is the accusation of the Russian Armed Forces of an airstrike on a maternity hospital in Mariupol. On the eve it became known that the main character of the reports in the media denies the version of the air raid on the maternity hospital from the Russian side. According to her, nationalists from Azov units used several women in labor to film a report in a hospital destroyed, allegedly by Russia, according to a pre-prepared scenario. False information was spread by Western media.

▫️Russian Ministry of Defence has shown concrete evidence of genocide and brutality of the Ukrainian leadership and paramilitary units towards their own population.

▫️Deputy Minister of Defence of Russia said that the humanitarian situation in Ukraine is deteriorating. First of all, this is due to actions of Ukrainian authorities and nationalist battalions that continue to block citizens in cities.

▫️UN Deputy Secretary-General has been informed about the situation that has developed in connection with Kiev's sabotage of the regime of open humanitarian corridors. It is indicated that the Russian side has been creating every day since March 4 all conditions to ensure the safety of humanitarian corridors for the evacuation of civilians and foreign citizens in the eastern and western directions. However, the convoys of refugees come under intense fire from AFU and national battalions, including mortars and large-caliber small arms fire. At the same time, despite this opposition, more than 123,000 people were saved only through humanitarian corridor from Mariupol to east without participation of Ukrainian side.

▫️On April 4, from 06:00, Russia reopened humanitarian corridor to rescue foreign citizens and civilians from Mariupol. At the same time, the Russian side is ready to ensure the entry of ships into the port of Berdyansk for evacuation of foreign citizens.

▫️67 foreign vessels continue to be blocked in Ukrainian ports. Every day from 08:00 to 19:00 (Moscow time), Russian Armed Forces open the maritime humanitarian corridor, which is a safe lane in the south-west direction. However, the threats of shelling and the high mine danger created by AFU do not allow ships to safely go to the open sea.

▫️For his part, M. Griffiths noted the importance of such contacts in order to solve complex humanitarian issues in crisis regions of the world.

▫️An understanding has been reached on the continuation of regular interaction.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/5/2022 4:01 AM]
🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

▫️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

💥On the evening of April 4, high-precision, long-range sea-based weapons near Ochakov destroyed a training centre for Ukrainian special operations forces used, among other things, to house foreign mercenaries.

💥High-precision air-based missiles have destroyed 4 fuel depots for supplying groups of Ukrainian troops near Kremenets, Cherkasy, Zaporozhye and Novomoskovsk.

✈️💥During the night, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 134 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 8 command posts and communication hubs, 1 radar for the S-300 missile system, 1 launcher of Tochka-U missile system, 6 ammunition depots and 2 fuel depots, as well as 85 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military equipment concentration.

💥Russian Air Defence means shot down 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the air near Chernobaevka, Industrialnaya, Gurty and Nizhnyaya Krynka.

📊In total, 125 Ukrainian aircraft and 91 helicopters, 398 unmanned aerial vehicles, 226 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1,969 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 214 multiple launch rocket systems, 852 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,873 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

❗️According to confirmed information, in Moschun, 23 kilometres north-west of Kiev, on the evening of April 5, servicemen of the 72nd Ukrainian main centre for psychological operations carried out another staged shooting of civilians allegedly killed by violent actions of the Russian Armed Forces for further distribution through the Western media.

▫️Similar events have now been organized by the Ukrainian special services in Sumy, Konotop and other cities.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/5/2022 4:01 AM]
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@mod_russia_en

MoD Russia, [4/5/2022 8:10 AM]
Fake:

Russian units blew up a tanker of nitric acid in Rubezhnoe in Lugansk Region. Such reports are spread by Ukrainian telegram channels.

Truth:
According to information of Lugansk people's militia, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are preparing Rubezhnoe for surrender. The tanker was blown up in workshop of Zarya plant, the moment of detonation was specially planned taking into account the wind direction - towards the liberated Kudryashovka. The provocation was most likely prepared for a long time in order to carry it out right before the retreat.

Russian Defence Ministry earlier reported (https://****/mod_russia_en/208) that Ukrainian Security Service, with the support of the West, was preparing a provocation involving the use of toxic substances against civilians.
US has repeatedly stated that it will condemn any chemical attack by Russia (although we have not had chemical weapons since 2017 (https://****/mod_russia_en/198)), and is now quite routinely ready to provide Ukraine (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...t-against-chemical-attacks-00022355?_amp=true) with gas masks and other protective equipment.

This once again proves that provocateurs act according to the same patterns. It is enough to remind the story of the "chemical attack" in Idlib (https://en.topwar.ru/113421-himicheskiy-feyk-v-idlibe.html), which served as a pretext for US cruise missile strike.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #FakeNews
@mod_russia_en
 
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Ukraine asks Germany for delivery of 100 Marder light tanks.
Germany says no because it needs them in the NATO.


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War map 05/04/2022. Is Russian planning another attack on Kiev? This time from the East.

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Ukraine asks Germany for delivery of 100 Marder light tanks.
Germany says no because it needs them in the NATO.


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The war in Ukraine is already NATOs war. Germany should send heavy offensive weapons to Ukraine. At this point, it is a low cost solution for European security.

Btw, how long will it take for the Ukrainians to learn how to use these tanks? 🤔
 
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