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Dude, except for the citizens of Turkey; Half a million people of Turkish origin live in Ukraine. And the homeland of most of them is the regions currently occupied by Russia. These people are Muslims, but they are not seen as Muslims in general in this forum because they are Turkish at the same time...I think this two brave turkish girls are trapped in Kharkiv
Fake similar to "Ghost of Kyiv". I swear it's true!bcs it is fake
Shooting merged with DCS
So at least you admit that Russia broke a promise.
As a sovereign state, Ukraine was fully within its rights to join any alliance but the problem for Ukraine was that NATO never considered Ukraine for membership in the first place. Whatever was insinuated was nothing more than chatter.
As for Cuba, what we did was a blockade. We could have invaded, killed all Soviet advisors, and took every missile on the island and there was nothing the Soviet Union could have done. Instead, we let the Soviets carted off the missiles and saved some face.
You are correct about the rationale. No one wanted such threats to be so close to home soil.Wasn't it Cuba's right to do whoever they want to host on their land. Why the blockade than? (It was much deeper but anyways quoting your own words)
Again if that blockade ( as you said) would not have worked you would have done the same things as mentioned.
The rationale is not different.
The excuse you would have made would be something like spreading democracy or anything else that sells. That doesn't change the actual reasoning or objectives.
Russian promised to not violate Ukraine sovereignty if Ukraine promised it wouldn't try to join NATO as part of the Minsk agreement. Ukraine reneged.You are correct about the rationale. No one wanted such threats to be so close to home soil.
But the problem for your argument is that NATO never considered Ukraine for membership from the time Russia made that WRITTEN promise not to violate Ukraine's sovereignty, and that Ukraine never hosted anyone. I am willing to predict that as time go by, it will be increasingly clear that Putin made up his rationale to break Russia's WRITTEN promise to Ukraine. Look at the social turmoil in Russia now.
LOL, if you are an anti war and anti military person, you won't be here, in PDF.But what about most wars since ?
I am an anti-war and anti-military person but that is a wonderful sight.
Didn't somebody promised on the same page of paper not to advance east ?You guys did not know that Russia promised IN WRITING that Russia will not attack Ukraine?