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60miles of military vehicles parked around kyiv says different. You will see in following days that if Ukraine does not behave, Russia will level all major cities

cities are the crown jewels. Ukraine two biggest cities are surrounded and about to be leveled and then taken over by Russians. Russia has just been negotiating to see what happens but any time Putin can give the order to level the cities like aleppo or grozny and take it.
And what then ? Install a puppet gov on the rubble ? What about the rest of ukraine ? Level it as well ? This will rather not break the ukraine nation, just increase the cost for Russia.
 
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you are NATO hostages.
There's a lot of hostages in NATO,but neither Russia nor the Chinese have managed to create a strong alliance. Russians have Belarus,Chinese have North Korea.
 
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Alternative to NATO proposed by Zelensky's party​

The Servant of the People Party is proposing to sign a new security agreement for Ukraine with the United States, Turkey and Russia instead of NATO membership.​


Russia's Lavrov arrives in Turkey for talks with Ukraine counterpart​

Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov arrived after a flight to Turkey's southern city of Antalya on Wednesday, according to a Reuters witness, ahead of planned talks Thursday with his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba.


The meeting would be the first between the nations' top diplomats since Russia invaded Ukraine two weeks ago.

 
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I'm not saying they are winning,but they haven't lost either. The war is not over yet. Remember when the Germans went in the Soviet Union in 1941 and the Red Army was had almost collapsed? They seemed incapable of winning. But in the end,they turned the tide. Who knows? Maybe they will change their strategy. Bring more forces. Maybe the Chinese will help them.
Whether Ukraine wins or loses doest make much of a difference. They will never totally lose because they have US and EU with them. in the end there will be CIA guys dressed and ukranians blowing stuff up.

The important thing is that the structure of sanctions and isolation is in place against Russia and that only ends with Russian surrender to the the Anglo empire. be it in 10 or 50 years. Its up to them.

In the meantime, the economic pressure stays, the military pressure stays and the espionage and special information warfare pressure stays.

The writing is on the wall for the Russian regime. Notice they always call it "regime" now. They didnt 10 years ago. Now its always regime, Putin regime, Putins army.

Yeah, it will be a long Cold War.
 
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These foreign mercenaries going over from many European capitals going to create the European version of Al-Qaeda. Far right extreme, xenophobic groups with military experience, armoury and kills.
 
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You know that Americans are united when Republicans have a jolly good time in MSNBC :laugh:
 
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Whether Ukraine wins or loses doest make much of a difference. They will never totally lose because they have US and EU with them. in the end there will be CIA guys dressed and ukranians blowing stuff up.

The important thing is that the structure of sanctions and isolation is in place against Russia and that only ends with Russian surrender to the the Anglo empire. be it in 10 or 50 years. Its up to them.

In the meantime, the economic pressure stays, the military pressure stays and the espionage and special information warfare pressure stays.

The writing is on the wall for the Russian regime. Notice they always call it "regime" now. They didnt 10 years ago. Now its always regime, Putin regime, Putins army.

Yeah, it will be a long Cold War.


They don’t get it. Russia has already lost strategically. Can anyone say Russias strategic position is better today than it was 2-3 weeks ago? Anyone that says yes is a clown.
 
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This is extremely unfair offer for Ukraine but I think the Russians would settle for something like this..

But US and Turkey has to deploy forces to the Ukraine post deal to make sure that there is no further attacks on that portion...

Russia gets Malorossiya and Novorossiya main while the Yellow goes to Ukraine again this is extremely unfair deal to the ukrainians but to salvage the government it is fair deal plus there comes an additional bonus Russia won't attack again
 
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This is extremely unfair offer for Ukraine but I think the Russians would settle for something like this..

But US and Turkey has to deploy forces to the Ukraine post deal to make sure that there is no further attacks on that portion...

Russia gets Malorossiya and Novorossiya main while the Yellow goes to Ukraine again this is extremely unfair deal to the ukrainians but to salvage the government it is fair deal plus there comes an additional bonus Russia won't attack again
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Russia wont take this offer. They want the whole thing. that yellow bit Russia wants as a puppet state, the rest will be part of Russia.

then Russia will make sure the yellow puppet state attacks ancient Russian lands of Poland or Slovakia or Romania. its not Russias fault. Its the yellow puppet states fault. Russia can come as peacekeeper to Poland and Romania.

hhehehe thats their plan. it wont work.
 
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Russia's Lavrov arrives in Turkey for talks with Ukraine counterpart​

Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov arrived after a flight to Turkey's southern city of Antalya on Wednesday, according to a Reuters witness, ahead of planned talks Thursday with his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba.


The meeting would be the first between the nations' top diplomats since Russia invaded Ukraine two weeks ago.

It is very difficult to come up with a permanent solution at the moment. There are so many issues to deal with. However, if a ceasefire plan can be established and a permanent dialogue channel can be created, the Antalya summit may be the most successful diplomatic initiative of recent times. In order to reduce the military tension, if the parties consent, the TAF can actively support the peace efforts.

Lavrov and Çavuşoğlu are close friends. Also, the first country that Ukraine proposed for mediatiator is Turkey. If the two countries prefer the way of negotiation instead of fighting and we host it; We will honored from that as friend of both countries.
 
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There's a lot of hostages in NATO,but neither Russia nor the Chinese have managed to create a strong alliance. Russians have Belarus,Chinese have North Korea.
You cant possibly believe Greece will be better off under Putin?
 
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I'm not saying they are winning,but they haven't lost either. The war is not over yet. Remember when the Germans went in the Soviet Union in 1941 and the Red Army was had almost collapsed? They seemed incapable of winning. But in the end,they turned the tide. Who knows? Maybe they will change their strategy. Bring more forces. Maybe the Chinese will help them.



Russia thinks it’s fighting Ukraine whereas they’re actually fighting their own corruption
 
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Russia wont take this offer. They want the whole thing. that yellow bit Russia wants as a puppet state, the rest will be part of Russia.

then Russia will make sure the yellow puppet state attacks ancient Russian lands of Poland or Slovakia or Romania. its not Russias fault. Its the yellow puppet states fault. Russia can come as peacekeeper to Poland and Romania.

hhehehe thats their plan. it wont work.

I don't think even Ukraine will accept this deal in a million years if you were to offer them and besides nobody has offered this deal to Ukraine but it was just me But to think Russia itself would deny it means we got a problem here
 
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