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Here is the legal deal...

Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

For now, we have Russia and Ukraine as belligerents. And Poland as a neutral power.

Article 1. The territory of neutral Powers is inviolable.​
This mean initially, no one can violate Poland's borders.

Art. 2. Belligerents are forbidden to move troops or convoys of either munitions of war or supplies across the territory of a neutral Power.​
Art. 3. Belligerents are likewise forbidden to:​
(a) Erect on the territory of a neutral Power a wireless telegraphy station or other apparatus forthe purpose of communicating with belligerent forces on land or sea;​
(b) Use any installation of this kind established by them before the war on the territory of a neutral Power for purely military purposes, and which has not been opened for the service of public messages.​

This mean Russia and Ukraine are forbidden to use Polish territory for war purposes.

Art. 4. Corps of combatants cannot be formed nor recruiting agencies opened on the territory of a neutral Power to assist the belligerents.​
Art. 5. A neutral Power must not allow any of the acts referred to in Articles 2 to 4 to occur on its territory. It is not called upon to punish acts in violation of its neutrality unless the said acts have been committed on its own territory.​

But now it becomes problematic, not just for Poland but for any country that claim neutrality but is MATERIALLY helping Ukraine such as transporting arms and/or sheltering Ukrainian fighters (not refugees).

Is Poland facilitating article 4 IN FAVOR of Ukraine? What is 'Corps of combatants' can also be extended to munitions because combatants and munitions usually accompany each other. If it is interpreted that Poland violated article 4, then Poland lost article 1 and Russia will be within legal bounds to attack Poland. But that would also trigger Article 5 of NATO charter.

A potential problem now is the integration of trade and financial systems. Could Russia argue that neutral powers who denied Russia access to the international financial system fall under Article 4? In other words, as those neutral powers actively use their native resources to assist Ukraine, they became belligerents on the side of Ukraine, thereby losing Article 1 protection.
No, I understand that Russia wouldn’t directly strike Poland for facilitating arms transport. However, they really need to destroy the arms being transported within Ukraine to prevent further casualties.
 
Seriously? Russians have reached the capital of 50 million strong country within 3 days and you don't call that progress? They have knocked out most of the Ukrainian air force, knocked out most of Ukrainian armored divisions, they are controlling the sky, the power stations, water and gas utilities are ready to be destroyed, there is a mass refugee crisis and Russians have more soldiers and equipment ready to send and you are saying Russian invasion hasn't progressed.
All things on the ground are pointing to a fall of Kiev. CIA rumor mills being the disinfo masters they are, keep churning out feel good stories and fake news to keep a semblance of sanity in the face of the Russian onslaught.

Funny how Zionists have turned onto Russia, keeping in mind Russia was the one who saved their asses back in WW2. Time to turn on the ovens again I guess.
 
Doubt it , as Russia borders Ukraine and has no problems getting weapons and troops across.
He forget that Eastern Ukraine is full of Russian Ethnic Minorities. So it won't be Afghanistan for Russia, at least not at the east of the river. The western part of Ukraine is another matter.
 

The shelter is already overcrowded: Ukrainian refugees are waiting in the Netherlands for a little warm welcome​

Ukrainian refugees can board a plane to seek safety in the Netherlands. But they will encounter several problems, because the asylum shelters are already overcrowded.


The reality on the ground.
 
Lol, what are u on about?, clearly u knw next to nothing about warfare, Russia did not even employ 10% of its military resources in Ukarine and they are almost in the capital on the third day of the invasion and Ukarine was no cake walk, it is second largest country in Europe. It took the yanks almost a month to reach Baghdad that too with full on war mode and all of NATO at their backs. Real war is not call of duty, think before spewing nonsense.
Statistics do not tell how much of the military force is in good shape or can be diverted towards a theater of operations in view of financial situation and without compromising other security commitments.

NATO could also spare limited military force for Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003: a total of 90,000 troops were involved in taking over Iraq on the ground in this war effort. Kuwait was the only country in the region which allowed NATO forces to invade Iraq from the ground. Baghdad is located in the center of Iraq and there are several Iraqi cities and locations which drew attention of the invading forces when coming from Kuwait. If Iran had allowed NATO forces to invade Iraq then it could be different story.

Russian forces invaded Ukraine from Belarus, Russian territory, and from the Black Sea on 24-02-22 and still feel the need to call in Chechen militias - this suggests that Russian forces are under stress even though Ukranian defenses are not much to write about. Russia have also deployed some of its experimental units in the war and made extensive use of both cruise missiles and ballistic missiles by now. Kyiv is not far from the border as well.

If Ukraine had good defenses...

Yes they are being uncovered and it shows that they're absolutely dominant.

US took 3 weeks to enter Baghdad in 2003 after beating Iraq down for over 10 years in a 6v1. Russia already encircling Kiev in a 1v1 surprise attack. This is one of the fastest conquests in history.
See above.

PDF members thinking that Russia has unveiled its "conventional capabilities"? How delusional can you get? Russia didn't even unleash 10% of it's power upon Ukraine LOL.... If it went all out the battle would be over in a day.
See above.
 
I have a feeling that Putin deliberately wanted the offensive to be slow just to give a feeling to Ukrainian and the West that they can stop Russia. He is a master planner, no way he will send his forces with T72 tanks. He will now go for a kill and will let the world know that he offered an olive branch to Zelensky which he rejected.
Funnily no major air operations. Or they're not being reported.
 

The shelter is already overcrowded: Ukrainian refugees are waiting in the Netherlands for a little warm welcome​

Ukrainian refugees can board a plane to seek safety in the Netherlands. But they will encounter several problems, because the asylum shelters are already overcrowded.


The reality on the ground.
It's definitely a sad situation. Yet more than 100,000 Ukrainians were admitted to European cities in the first 48 hours. Most of them crossed the borders on foot.

But just a few years ago, Europe was almost in a political crisis for 200,000 Syrian refugees. In some countries, civilians were chasing refugees with shotguns in their hands.

I am very sorry for the Ukrainian people. However, they should feel lucky that they will not experience the desperation that the Syrian people( or Afghans) have been left with.
 
It's definitely a sad situation. Yet more than 100,000 Ukrainians were admitted to European cities in the first 48 hours. Most of them crossed the borders on foot.

But just a few years ago, Europe was almost in a political crisis for 200,000 Syrian refugees. In some countries, civilians were chasing refugees with shotguns in their hands.

I am very sorry for the Ukrainian people. However, they should feel lucky that they will not experience the desperation that the Syrian people( or Afghans) have been left with.
Yeah, the differential treatment is blatant. In Northern Poland they’re restricting the Syrian immigrants while in the South they’re allowing Ukrainians in with open arms,
 
I disagree. The new Nazism has actually made peace with Zionist and Judaism .... Case in point, the undersigned Ukrainian President Zelensky is a Jew and he has supported the Azov Nazi Battalion.

Even Israel has been arming the Nazis.... Didnt you figure out why??

The Nazi new Jews are us.... Muslims. Wake up.


Rights Groups Demand Israel Stop Arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine
Human rights activists petition the court to cease Israeli arms exports to Ukraine since some of these weapons reach neo-Nazi elements in Ukraine’s security forces

John Brown
Jul. 9, 2018


group of more than 40 human rights activists have filed a petition with the High Court of Justice, demanding the cessation of Israeli arms exports to Ukraine.

They argue that these weapons serve forces that openly espouse a neo-Nazi ideology and cite evidence that the right-wing Azov militia, whose members are part of Ukraine’s armed forces, and are supported by the country’s ministry of internal affairs, is using these weapon

s.s.

@thetutle said:
George W Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush financially supported the Nazi Regime during WW2. It's all part of a grand scheme which leads to the infamous zionist conference in switzerland in 1897. For zionists Islam is the real enemy.
 
All things on the ground are pointing to a fall of Kiev. CIA rumor mills being the disinfo masters they are, keep churning out feel good stories and fake news to keep a semblance of sanity in the face of the Russian onslaught.

Funny how Zionists have turned onto Russia, keeping in mind Russia was the one who saved their asses back in WW2. Time to turn on the ovens again I guess.
Ukrainian army is the new ANA.

west has moved into metaverse fighting wars i virtual space having fancy avatars and winning battles online!
 
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