Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Clutch]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518606138043879425

Everyone repents when caught and punishment awaits....

 

[WotTen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518540245897199616

What a f-ing MANIPULATIVE COWARD

He is admitting that the US will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.

If the US wants to degrade Russian military capability, why not step in the ring? Why use Ukrainians as cannon fodder?

 

[Viet]

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[Tornado23]

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Now this is a big threat to the low flying Russian jets.

 

[Paul2]

Good thing most of the artillery provided shares the 155 or the Russian version 152.

The problem is Ukraine doesn't use Russian 152mm, Ukraine uses own 152mm cased ammo. Russian 152mm uses separately loaded charges.

Ukraine has another problem, they don't have short range 152mm rounds, only full power, and 70% power rounds.

Ukrainian 152mm is army division level, while Russian 152mm is regimental.

 

[Wood]

See Doolittle Raiders. But look at the situation this way...

For starter, there is no doubt that Russia failed in many aspects of the war. As an Air Force guy, I pointed out enough on how the VKS failed and that DIRECTLY affected the ground war. Then Gary pointed out how the Russian Army failed many aspects of the ground war such as logistics and multiple fronts.

Next, since it is US intent to have the Russian military as weak as possible, what if there come a point where attacking deep into Russian home soil accomplish that goal? Or even just to move slightly towards that goal? If the US/NATO supply Ukraine enough, there would be spares to launch into Russia home soil then see Doolittle Raiders effects.

Doliitle Raiders were prepared to sacrifice their equipment to. I'm not sure Ukraine can afford that given their limited inventory of MiGs

 

[vizier]

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These can be a threat to helicopters and low flying Su-25 bomb runs in eastern war zone. Also can be transferred by itself being mobile to eastern zones. Armed drones however can fly higher than reach of gun based systems and can attack with atgms from about medium altitudes.
But in western Ukraine something along the lines of Crotale radar equipped sam shorad is what can counter kalibr cruise missile strikes. These can be effective to a degree against cruise missiles as well.

 

[That Guy]

What a f-ing MANIPULATIVE COWARD

He is admitting that the US will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.

If the US wants to degrade Russian military capability, why not step in the ring? Why use Ukrainians as cannon fodder?

And? What are you gonna do about it? What's Russia or Ukraine gonna do about it?

This isn't video games this is reality. Might makes right, and the cunning rule the world. The US has plenty of the two in spades.

Azovstal is huge yes, but needing tens of thousands of troops to keep it locked down? That's a bit over exaggerated. They need fewer than a thousand men, artillery/mortar support readily available as well as drone cover available and thats it. That should be enough to prevent a breakout.

Yeah, just no. That's not how sieges work, especially not in the modern setting. You're also ignoring the geography of Azovstal, and the amount of ukrainian soldiers that still remain there, who have shown that they're still perfectly capable of ambushing Russian units around the area, and can come and go as they please. The truth is that Azovstal isn't as secure as Russia seems to think it is, and it's simply too big to actually secure properly.

See Doolittle Raiders. But look at the situation this way...

For starter, there is no doubt that Russia failed in many aspects of the war. As an Air Force guy, I pointed out enough on how the VKS failed and that DIRECTLY affected the ground war. Then Gary pointed out how the Russian Army failed many aspects of the ground war such as logistics and multiple fronts.

Next, since it is US intent to have the Russian military as weak as possible, what if there come a point where attacking deep into Russian home soil accomplish that goal? Or even just to move slightly towards that goal? If the US/NATO supply Ukraine enough, there would be spares to launch into Russia home soil then see Doolittle Raiders effects.

Sure, but you'd have to convince the US that it is a tolerable escalation. I don't see that happening, as the US still seems hesitant to give certain weapons to Ukraine.

 

[WotTen]

This isn't video games this is reality. Might makes right.

Wrong. This is not the 19th century any more.

This is a war of perception and media narrative just as much as of weapons and armies. And this is especially true for democratic countries where public opinion must be maintained to sustain support for this war.

If people, especially the Western European public, start thinking the US is cynically exploiting the Ukrainians for an ulterior motive, it will be disastrous for the Western alliance.

 

[Vergennes]

"Western weapons of deliveries will cause WW3.... a nuclear war". "Russia will target western weapon shipments".

Meanwhile in the real world ; @F-22Raptor

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518477889880170498

 

[That Guy]

Wrong. This is not the 19th century any more.

This is a war of perception and media narrative just as much as of weapons and armies. And this is especially true for democratic countries where public opinion must be maintained to sustain support for this war.

If people, especially the Western European public, start thinking the US is cynically exploiting the Ukrainians for an ulterior motive, it will be disastrous for the Western alliance.

Once again? What are you gonna do about it? The world has mostly sided with Europe, USA and Ukraine against Russia.

The Russians have pretty much lost the propaganda war, and these feel good tweets and staged raids from the Russians can't do anything to change that.

By your own standard, the US has won.

 

[Viet]

These can be a threat to helicopters and low flying Su-25 bomb runs in eastern war zone. Also can be transferred by itself being mobile to eastern zones. Armed drones however can fly higher than reach of gun based systems and can attack with atgms from about medium altitudes.
But in western Ukraine something along the lines of Crotale radar equipped sam shorad is what can counter kalibr cruise missile strikes. These can be effective to a degree against cruise missiles as well.

Ukraine will get everything it needs. Just a matter of time. Including nuclear weapons. I think that will come. North Korea can build nukes there is no reason why Ukraine can’t. Putin has expressed his clear intention, he wants to exterminate Ukrainians as people, race, nation.

 

[That Guy]

"Western weapons of deliveries will cause WW3.... a nuclear war". "Russia will target western weapon shipments".

Meanwhile in the real world ; @F-22Raptor

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518477889880170498

USA's response: "$13 billion go brrrrrrt"

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1518849437933740034

 

[WotTen]

Once again? What are you gonna do about it? The world has mostly sided with Europe, USA and Ukraine against Russia.

The Russians have pretty much lost the propaganda war, and these feel good tweets and staged raids from the Russians can't do anything to change that.

By your own standard, the US has won.View attachment 838141

It seems you either did not read my post or did not understand it, so I won't bother repeating it. Hint: read the last paragraph again.