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Top US general in Europe says there 'could be' an intelligence gap in US that caused US to overestimate Russia's capabilities​

Top US general in Europe says there 'could be' an intelligence gap in US that caused US to overestimate Russia's capabilities

The top US general in Europe said Tuesday there "could be" a gap in US intelligence gathering that caused the US to overestimate Russia's capability and underestimate Ukraine's defensive abilities before Russia attacked Ukraine.

www.cnn.com

What a joke!
If anything, it is the USA that overestimate their own capablity and importance in the world. USA too full of themselves and spreading terror and deaths all over the world together with their running doggies.

USA lost terribly in Afghanistan to a bunch of sheep herders with AKs and RPGs and riding on pickups while
USA equiped with state of art planes and helicopters and armoured cars and artillery and Ma Deuces with unlimited ammo supply and satellites in the sky.

USA lost also in Somali to another bunch of goat herders and fishermen.

Only wars USA won since WW2 were the wars USA fought so heroically against Granada and Nicaragua and Panama.

With USA military generalship so fccking bad, who are they to make any judgement?
Because Russia did not do according to what USA planned and hoped for?

And this what Russia doing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508813631311466496

Or how Russia winning.

Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.

And how Russia froze and lock Ukrainian forces and then slaughtered them.

In what is the equivalent of Operation Bagration, Russia deceived and flat footed the fight conducted by USA and NATO with arms supplied by them and cannon fodder supplied by Zelensky hiding behind, or in front of his green screen.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

What a joke!
If anything, it is the USA that overestimate their own capablity and importance in the world. USA too full of themselves and spreading terror and deaths all over the world together with their running doggies.

USA lost terribly in Afghanistan to a bunch of sheep herders with AKs and RPGs and riding on pickups while
USA equiped with state of art planes and helicopters and armoured cars and artillery and Ma Deuces with unlimited ammo supply and satellites in the sky.

USA lost also in Somali to another bunch of goat herders and fishermen.

Only wars USA won since WW2 were the wars USA fought so heroically against Granada and Nicaragua and Panama.

With USA military generalship so fccking bad, who are they to make any judgement?
Because Russia did not do according to what USA planned and hoped for?

And this what Russia doing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508813631311466496

Or how Russia winning.

Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.

And how Russia froze and lock Ukrainian forces and then slaughtered them.

In what is the equivalent of Operation Bagration, Russia deceived and flat footed the fight conducted by USA and NATO with arms supplied by them and cannon fodder supplied by Zelensky hiding behind, or in front of his green screen.

What people do not understand is US does not get into wars to win.

US gets into wars to make money.

Hence the more prolonged the war is, it is better for the US Military-Industrial complex.

The outcome of the war is not important. The duration of the war and amount of money made out of that War is what matters.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508576857767088130

 

[Type59]

It's harder to redeploy Russian force than redeploy Ukrainian force.

Because to redeploy Russian force in theatre, you will need to pull them out of their original AO, then ship them to the next AO and then move into position. On the other hand, Ukrainian force would just simply go from A to B.

The problem is, if Russia is really doing this (Which I doubt they are) they would leave behind any or all permanent infrastructure and then they have to insert more troop to pull out the original troop, otherwise that would turn into a rout.

On the other hand, Air Superiority is not really the matter in Donbas because Russia still do not have total ai superiority. Also the Ukrainian position in Donbas is entrenched, which mean it will take a lot of Russian attacker (5 : 1) to overwhelm the Ukrainian Defender. That is probably the reason the Donbas frontline hardly moved at all in the last 34 days of fighting.

They do have air superiority over Donbass region. I have seen Russian self propelled guns dug in the same position for days. This shows no fear of counter battery fire from UA artillery or air attack around Pospana. Time is on Russian side in this theatre, remote chance of resupply.



On redeployment point, Russia could be redeploying troops to East or just further north. It would be risky to move UA forces to East and weaken defenses around capital.

 

[Clutch]

His roots are Canadian. He's grandparents moved to South Africa from Canada. And they were not Afrikaans, but English.

South Africa is not nazi they declared war on nazi Germany in 1939.

Apartheid... They supported the Allies during WWII because of allegiance to Britain..

 

[jhungary]

They do have air superiority over Donbass region. I have seen Russian self propelled guns dug in the same position for days. This shows no fear of counter battery fire from UA artillery or air attack around Pospana. Time is on Russian side in this theatre, remote chance of resupply.



On redeployment point, Russia could be redeploying troops to East or just further north. It would be risky to move UA forces to East and weaken defenses around capital.

Well, bear in mind, the west and US is supplying Ukrainian with asset, and you are talking about a draw down on the Northern front, which will eventually release some Anti-Air asset for Ukraine to deal with threat freely.

Time is not on Russian side actually, because you need time and money to prepare for war, and everyday this war is ongoing, it is bleeding out Russia economy, this war is not cheap, you can see the equipment loss on both side, on the other hand, US and the West is supplying Ukrainian, which mean it cost the Ukrainian nothing. But everything Russia lost they will need to pay for it.

Not to mention the further the war drag on, the more Ukrainian can be mobilised, sources already said they have had enough trained TDF member for the first stage, which is 200,000, that is on top of whatever Ukrainian regular troop that still able to deployed. Hence you are seeing Ukrainian starting a pushback. Russia on the other hand have to be able to gather those troop and then ship them to Ukraine if they have any sort of mobilisation. And that would depends on how much troop they can transport to battle, judging from the build up, it took Russia 3 months to get everyone in place....So that advantage are going to be on the Ukrainian as well.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508923185072332802

 

[mmr]

What a joke!
If anything, it is the USA that overestimate their own capablity and importance in the world. USA too full of themselves and spreading terror and deaths all over the world together with their running doggies.

USA lost terribly in Afghanistan to a bunch of sheep herders with AKs and RPGs and riding on pickups while
USA equiped with state of art planes and helicopters and armoured cars and artillery and Ma Deuces with unlimited ammo supply and satellites in the sky.

USA lost also in Somali to another bunch of goat herders and fishermen.

Only wars USA won since WW2 were the wars USA fought so heroically against Granada and Nicaragua and Panama.

With USA military generalship so fccking bad, who are they to make any judgement?
Because Russia did not do according to what USA planned and hoped for?

And this what Russia doing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508813631311466496

Or how Russia winning.

Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.

And how Russia froze and lock Ukrainian forces and then slaughtered them.

In what is the equivalent of Operation Bagration, Russia deceived and flat footed the fight conducted by USA and NATO with arms supplied by them and cannon fodder supplied by Zelensky hiding behind, or in front of his green screen.

The decision was taken by us military professionals. If they ever disclose why they decided to downgrade threat from Russia we can discuss further if its right or wrong decision.

I suspect usa want to focus on china and will work with eu uk canada Australian and japan etc for freedom of navigation on south china sea...indo pacific...taiwan etc.

 

[Paul2]

Many analysts believe that Russia has culminated. As weather improves, Russia may make another attempt to take Kiev. If this is not possible or successful, then Putin has to declare that the territorial gains in South and East of Ukraine as victory to his domestic audience. His TV pundits will attest it for him. Putin will gamble that this is enough to keep his throne.

I don't think Russia can really sustain a long war that can last for the rest of this year while reeling under Western sanctions. Accepting promises of neutrality from Ukraine will not be a matter of choice in this situation. Putin will want to believe it at that point.

Now it is Putin who wants to force a stalemate. Now I think more, and more he looks into forcing WW1 type ending. Enduring meaningless casualties to bitter end, but hoping that the enemy will have to bear more the unbearable.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508490490349436929

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508988268699811840

 

[gambit]

What people do not understand is US does not get into wars to win.

US gets into wars to make money.

Hence the more prolonged the war is, it is better for the US Military-Industrial complex.

The outcome of the war is not important. The duration of the war and amount of money made out of that War is what matters.

This is not a good argument.

MICs do not make money from wars but from peace because wars do not last, but peace do. In peacetime, you still need to operate your military at least at %90 of wartime tempo if you want to create a sufficient deterrence. In this, you will shoot plenty of ammo, burn a lot of fuel, run a lot of trucks, and so on. So at %90 tempo, you will wear out your soldiers and equipment. You will need to recruit new soldiers, sailors, and airmen, and you will need to replace equipment as they eventually fail.

In a war, MICs have limited capability to replenish what is spent in combat. The more complex the weapon system, the more time it will take to rebuild what was lost in combat. In other words, it is faster to build ammo than jet fighters or ships. So in peacetime, you buy as much as you can afford, including reserves. Then in war, you fight the best you can and if you lose equipment faster than your MIC can rebuild, you will lose the war.

 

[FuturePAF]

It would be interesting to compare the total GDP of countries opposing Russia v/s those which are neutral or supporting Russia.

At the end of the day, the only number that matters is the money not humans (sorry). In fact human without money is a liability, not an asset.



A more likely outcome is that research facilities and personnel move to China with an understanding that results will be shared by both countries.

Agreed; Especially in the highest tech areas. Submarine technology (such as the Yasen-M and Borei classes), sub-systems for strategic missile forces technologies like decoys and ABM interceptors like the S-500, parts of stealth fighters such as engines, EW, and the human experience.

Thousands of Russian veteran officers could get jobs training with Chinese troops. Sort of like green berets putting their Chinese counter parts through ever more realistic exercises across the full spectrum of warfare. It’s a lot safer then being deployed into the Wagner group or in under maintained equipment like in the 90s. Post hostilities in Ukraine, China could help Russia rebuild its military for the Tech transfers and sharing of human expertise. It would save both countries time to rebuild and catch up and stay some what apace with the west.

Russia will be on par with the British or French military at best after this war. If it weren’t for Russia’s security council seat and its massive strategic arsenal it wouldn’t even in the same league as France and the UK.

The hype has been busted. I guess the Risky move was Russia’s not Ukraine’.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

This is not a good argument.

MICs do not make money from wars but from peace because wars do not last, but peace do. In peacetime, you still need to operate your military at least at %90 of wartime tempo if you want to create a sufficient deterrence. In this, you will shoot plenty of ammo, burn a lot of fuel, run a lot of trucks, and so on. So at %90 tempo, you will wear out your soldiers and equipment. You will need to recruit new soldiers, sailors, and airmen, and you will need to replace equipment as they eventually fail.

In a war, MICs have limited capability to replenish what is spent in combat. The more complex the weapon system, the more time it will take to rebuild what was lost in combat. In other words, it is faster to build ammo than jet fighters or ships. So in peacetime, you buy as much as you can afford, including reserves. Then in war, you fight the best you can and if you lose equipment faster than your MIC can rebuild, you will lose the war.

You can buy new equipment only if you lose them in the war.

You cannot keep increasing the equipment without losing them as someone would question the need to keep building.

How many fighters and choppers can you crash in peace time vs during war time.

Obviously war provides greater opportunity.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508490645538807812

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1508701324019384324