Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Oldman1]

Will be like the last G20 meeting he was in Australia after the 2014 annexation of Crimea

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He is probably going to say "Hey, more room at the table for me"

More like longer table for me.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505982915880095760

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507203468133642244

 

[alimobin memon]

Ok not taking sides but reality is,

Russia cant stop weapons coming into ukraine to be use against them

Russia hasnt achieved full air superiority

Why russia is using limited force then the one they project to whole world ?

But then,

If russian forces are so weak and losing and losing then its great opportunity for nato to intervene as ukraine alone according to their vigorous claim are beating hell out of russians. But nato is not intervening does it mean nato and ukraine is lying about russian losses ?

See most of russian weapons are useless according to ukraine and west then what is stopping them ?

Russia has no guts if nato enters ukraine and will use nuclear bombs in ukraine cause nuclear missiles are last resort or maybe not. But then again if russia uses nukes means they admit conventionally they are really weak

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507136772349829125

 

[jhungary]

He is?


Doubt they can even fortify it. And civilians attacking them from within which is getting their attention away from the Ukrainian forces from outside.

I don't think Putin have any meaningful number of troop. In Kherson

Just simple math really. 200,000 troop in country, in 3 to 4 separate ingression. Even if we split them equally, you are looking at 50,000 troop each side (which I doubt they are doing them equally) and majority of troop in the southern Flank are undoubtedly be in MAriupol right now, which mean at most 10000 troop is left in Kherson, may be less.

10000 troop against 100,000 population? With a threat of conventional force attack? Like the old saying goes, "I hope you bring enough bullet, son"

More like longer table for me.

Don't know what they use in Indonesia, we uses round table.

So either people join him or don't, and a lot of them don't, and that is way back in 2014, this is a lot bigger than Annexing Crimea

 

[Oldman1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507136772349829125

I say give them Russian made tanks, helicopters, MiGs, etc. This is Ukraine's momentum to win the war quickly and in their favor. Russia won't do anything about it, its brinkmanship, the U.S. government needs to think in long term about Ukraine in the future and be less risk averse. Have to show more support and its very symbolic if Ukraine decides to join NATO. And the world can't handle a long war anyways with so much economic disastrous consequences in the long term.

 

[The SC]

Ok not taking sides but reality is,

Russia cant stop weapons coming into ukraine to be use against them

Russia hasnt achieved full air superiority

Why russia is using limited force then the one they project to whole world ?

But then,

If russian forces are so weak and losing and losing then its great opportunity for nato to intervene as ukraine alone according to their vigorous claim are beating hell out of russians. But nato is not intervening does it mean nato and ukraine is lying about russian losses ?

See most of russian weapons are useless according to ukraine and west then what is stopping them ?

Russia has no guts if nato enters ukraine and will use nuclear bombs in ukraine cause nuclear missiles are last resort or maybe not. But then again if russia uses nukes means they admit conventionally they are really weak

There is an unusual paradox in this war; Russia is there to prevent Nato being at its immediate doorsteps.. and Ukraine is forced to defend itself.. both are right somehow..

Russia is never to be underestimated.. it hasn't used its best unites or weapons although it is a global power conventionally..but realistic as Putin said.. it can not confront NATO conventionally.. (since it is not the USSR anymore).. So the nuclear option is not the last resort to prevent a WW3,, but rather one of the first options of deterrence at hand.. it can use tactical nuclear weapons to stop NATO at first and if it escalates than it is literally,, Que sera ..sera,,

 

[thetutle]

I'm not saying they should have invaded,but the US and Britain did everything they could as to NOT find a peaceful solution on this. I don't recall Russia,China and others imposing heavy sanctions on USA in 1999,2003 and 2011.

Wasn't invading Iraq in 2003 a ridiculous reason? Wasn't bombing Yugoslavia in 1999 for "humanitarian reasons" just fake?

When Turkey invaded Cyprus,why wasn't there a big reaction by all the other NATO members? Yes,it was the Cold War. But why didn't they put sanctions on Turkey about that after the Cold War?

Double standards. That's what annoys me. Their lies and their hypocrisy.

And speaking of Kosovo...does this remind you of something?



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Oh poor serbs and greeks. Everyone else can attack muslims but you are not allowed to. Thats the problem isn't it?

 

[Oldman1]

there is an unusual paradox in this war; Russia is there to prevent Nato being at its immediate doorsteps.. and Ukraine is forced to defend itself.. both are right somehow..

Russia is never to be underestimated.. it hasn't used its best unites or weapons although it is a global power conventionally..but realistic as Putin said.. it can not confront NATO conventionally.. (since it is not the USSR anymore).. So the nuclear option is not the last resort to prevent a WW3,, but rather one of the first options of deterrence at hand.. it can use tactical nuclear weapons to stop NATo at first and if it escalates thab it is literally,, Que sera ..sera,,

Its more than about NATO, its about liberating the Ukrainian people from the evil Jewish Nazi president, Denazify the government and the military, etc.

 

[kingQamaR]

I see nothing wrong with the Russians using White Phosphorus or thermite incendiary submunitions the Americans (MK 77 in Iraq etc) and Israelis used them religiously unless it’s more painful due to it being used on blonde hair and blue eyed people.

Not the same way at all. Show me a city in Afghanistan Iraq flattened like this, and in 3 weeks. It didn't happen. I'm not saying there are not criticisms to be made, but the two do not equate.

 

[Clutch]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507068466053976074

Americans are officially annihilating Russian tanks

Isn't Americans fighting alongside Ukrainian Nazis tantamount to Americans exporting terrorism to fight alongside ISIS.

I thought ISIS and Nazi are equally evil.... No?

I guess Americans like to play the good Taliban bad Taliban game too...

 

[Oldman1]

it can use tactical nuclear weapons to stop NATo at first and if it escalates thab it is literally,, Que sera ..sera,,

Thats the last thing Russia should try to do.

U.S. Has Deployed New, Small Nukes On Submarine, According To Group

The U.S. has reportedly begun patrols with the low-yield weapons, which it says are needed to counter Russia. Critics worry they increase the risk of nuclear war.

www.npr.org

U.S. Has Deployed New, Small Nukes On Submarine, According To Group​

The U.S. has begun deploying a new type of low-yield nuclear warhead aboard some ballistic missile submarines, according to a report by an independent monitor.

When the USS Tennessee, an Ohio-class submarine, went on patrol in the final weeks of 2019, it carried "one or two" of the new weapons, according to a post by the Federation of American Scientists.

"Much of that need centers around Russia, which the administration says is preparing to use small nukes in a conflict. The idea is that Russia would use relatively low-yield nuclear weapon to get a superior adversary such as the U.S. or NATO to back down in a conflict, according to Katarzyna Zysk, who studies Russian military doctrine at the Norwegian Institute for Defence Studies in Oslo."

 

[jhungary]

I say give them Russian made tanks, helicopters, MiGs, etc. This is Ukraine's momentum to win the war quickly and in their favor. Russia won't do anything about it, its brinkmanship, the U.S. government needs to think in long term about Ukraine in the future and be less risk averse. Have to show more support and its very symbolic if Ukraine decides to join NATO. And the world can't handle a long war anyways with so much economic disastrous consequences in the long term.

Well, considering this.

What would the war will be if Ukrainian heeded to the American and British warning that an Invasion is coming?

That came from the UK/US side since November last year, and that is more than enough time to mobilise their reserve or form organised defence. Ukrainian Regular troop number may be double or even triple the size they have now. Even asking for a No Fly Zone, which is within Ukrainian right to ask and back then Russia is not invading so they will give it to the Ukrainian

What would the war be if they start getting their act last November??

 

[The SC]

I say give them Russian made tanks, helicopters, MiGs, etc. This is Ukraine's momentum to win the war quickly and in their favor. Russia won't do anything about it, its brinkmanship, the U.S. government needs to think in long term about Ukraine in the future and be less risk averse. Have to show more support and its very symbolic if Ukraine decides to join NATO. And the world can't handle a long war anyways with so much economic disastrous consequences in the long term.

That is all they are giving Ukraine anyways.. apart from advanced individual ATGMs and manpads.. for fear of loosing some sophisticated technologies to the Russian army..