Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Meengla]

When there are losers on both sides of a conflict with nukes ... We are all possibly doomed to be losers.

Well said.
I don't know why people here don't sink in their heads something which all military strategists are saying: Russia has a nuclear BLACKMAIL in this conflict! Simple! You can condemn that all you want but, unless someone from inside Russia stops Putin, he will NOT accept looking defeated. Already NY Times is saying that Russia has plenty of tactical nukes which are 'a fraction of the Hiroshima' nuke in power but enough to obliterate large forces. Add to them the hyperbaric bombs.
It is true that Americans are not only far ahead in the quality of nukes but also in conventional capabilities but how can you take a chance against an enemy which has so many nukes and may become suicidal if cornered. Out of the 6000 nukes Russia has, if even 10 big ones make to their targets then forget goodbye to the world as we know it.

This is not some $ick measuring contest where who has what. It is about injecting some very grim reality in the discussion about this conflict and that reality is becoming more and more possible as Russia's advances grind down.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1506362866668089356

 

[oberschlesier]

Iran will respond back and take out Hell Aviv (aka Tel Aviv) and Haifa.

It would be better to find a deal between Israel and Iran, that would benefit both sides. Hell, why do this, get sactions lifted and sell oil and gas to Europe, better to threten with nukes.

 

[kingQamaR]

Iran will respond back and take out Hell Aviv (aka Tel Aviv) and Haifa.

Lol

 

[Wood]

The problem is people forgetting why and how azov became a military unit in the first place ... If russia didnt try to grab the land in ukraine there would be no azow.

Exactly! Ultra nationalist right wing supremacy ideologies are easy to foster in areas of unrest. All societies will have a small fraction of the population prone to extremist supremacy ideologies. But when Putin started his shenanigans in the Ukrainian border, these supremacy groups found a fertile ground for their movement to thrive and recruit.

People who ignore this obvious reality are either being intentionally dense or just plain stupid

 

[Ich]

With what ? And if there will be anything left out of Iran after

With missiles. Sitting deep in undergroundbunkers under mountains. Able even for third strike. Take a look in Iran-Forum here on pdf.

 

[bobo6661]

With missiles. Sitting deep in undergroundbunkers under mountains. Able even for third strike. Take a look in Iran-Forum here on pdf.

Like man lets be real if they could they would do it already ...

 

[NotSure]

The problem is people forgetting why and how azov became a military unit in the first place ... If russia didnt try to grab the land in ukraine there would be no azow.

Yee and tactical nukes yeee.... more morons now try to explane to his people that nuke was the only option for a "military operation" and yee all countrys would not care if he used nukes ... Guess even india would have to condemn them then ... if not then i guess few nukes from isreal on teheran would not be a problem ... Who would care at that point ...

Azov and all the other Nazi freaks in Ukraine were there BEFORE the "land grab", you genius.

You can't even get the facts straight and in the correct cause and effect chain. And geniuses like you are calling other morons ...

 

[Ich]

Like man lets be real if they could they would do it already ...

Iran is civilized, is not like US

 

[oberschlesier]

Well said.
I don't know why people here don't sink in their heads something which all military strategists are saying: Russia has a nuclear BLACKMAIL in this conflict! Simple! You can condemn that all you want but, unless someone from inside Russia stops Putin, he will NOT accept looking defeated. Already NY Times is saying that Russia has plenty of tactical nukes which are 'a fraction of the Hiroshima' nuke in power but enough to obliterate large forces. Add to them the hyperbaric bombs.
It is true that Americans are not only far ahead in the quality of nukes but also in conventional capabilities but how can you take a chance against an enemy which has so many nukes and may become suicidal if cornered. Out of the 6000 nukes Russia has, if even 10 big ones make to their targets then forget goodbye to the world as we know it.

This is not some $ick measuring contest where who has what. It is about injecting some very grim reality in the discussion about this conflict and that reality is becoming more and more possible as Russia's advances grind down.

Blackmail is blackmail, not using the nukes. It`s a political weapon. Anyway why use it against the the west ? Everybody here has a fantasy, that this is a NATO - Russia conflict, but infact they are fighting Ukraine and have big problems. Of course Ukraine get`s help for EU/NATO, but this not the same thing.

 

[kingQamaR]

Well said.
I don't know why people here don't sink in their heads something which all military strategists are saying: Russia has a nuclear BLACKMAIL in this conflict! Simple! You can condemn that all you want but, unless someone from inside Russia stops Putin, he will NOT accept looking defeated. Already NY Times is saying that Russia has plenty of tactical nukes which are 'a fraction of the Hiroshima' nuke in power but enough to obliterate large forces. Add to them the hyperbaric bombs.
It is true that Americans are not only far ahead in the quality of nukes but also in conventional capabilities but how can you take a chance against an enemy which has so many nukes and may become suicidal if cornered. Out of the 6000 nukes Russia has, if even 10 big ones make to their targets then forget goodbye to the world as we know it.

This is not some $ick measuring contest where who has what. It is about injecting some very grim reality in the discussion about this conflict and that reality is becoming more and more possible as Russia's advances grind down.

putin can give a order to launch the Russian state nuclear missiles, but I'm not sure this order would be followed anymore, that television broadcast was revealing puTin with his top 2 general together the look on the both general faces was what has this guy got us into, and what are we going to do now how many others in the system are starting to think like these two maybe the system has decided secretly that it will block any crazy order of nuclear launch from Moscow the guy has zero credibility with his army now

 

[bobo6661]

Azov and all the other Nazi freaks in Ukraine were there BEFORE the "land grab", you genius.

They where like same groups in germany poland russia etc ... What to do with freaks like that ? Execute them ? Are you calling for it ?

Azov Brigade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On 13 April 2014, Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov issued a decree authorizing the creation of new paramilitary forces of up to 12,000 people

The Azov Battalion has its roots in a group of ultras of FC Metalist Kharkiv named "Sect 82"

You got people like that in every country

 

[NotSure]

They where like same groups in germany poland russia etc ... What to do with freaks like that ? Execute them ? Are you calling for it ?

No, they were not like the other groups. Again you can't even get the most basic facts straight and not only trying to whitewash this scum, no, trying to spin the thing. Blaming me now, like i am the Azov nazi here.

Ok, pls continue. So people all over the world can see, what polish propaganda is doing with their people. You could think, you have learned something from the history, about Bandera and co ...

 

[jamal18]

Well said.
I don't know why people here don't sink in their heads something which all military strategists are saying: Russia has a nuclear BLACKMAIL in this conflict! Simple! You can condemn that all you want but, unless someone from inside Russia stops Putin, he will NOT accept looking defeated. Already NY Times is saying that Russia has plenty of tactical nukes which are 'a fraction of the Hiroshima' nuke in power but enough to obliterate large forces. Add to them the hyperbaric bombs.
It is true that Americans are not only far ahead in the quality of nukes but also in conventional capabilities but how can you take a chance against an enemy which has so many nukes and may become suicidal if cornered. Out of the 6000 nukes Russia has, if even 10 big ones make to their targets then forget goodbye to the world as we know it.

This is not some $ick measuring contest where who has what. It is about injecting some very grim reality in the discussion about this conflict and that reality is becoming more and more possible as Russia's advances grind down.

1. I remember a comment by Lavarov a while back, before this conflict. He stated simply that the next World war can only be a nuclear war, anything else is not likely.

2. On this forum I saw the comment of an Indian general who trained with the Russians. He said he was surprised how early in a conflict the Russians would use tactical nukes.

If Nato engages in this war, the result is not in doubt.

 

[bobo6661]

Ok, pls continue. So people all over the world can see, what polish propaganda is doing with their people. You could thing, you have learned something from the history, Bandera and co ...

Man you still got hitler lovers in your country