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So you agree that you are only making it difficult for the Russians but in no way preventing it. What do you think the result would be on the Ukrainians for creating that difficulty. More lives lost more women and children killed, more teenagers dead. You really want to rationalize that giving them weaponry is a good thing for them ... or is it for you ... keep Russians occupied for as long as possible and while simultaneously fund privatized western military industrial complex. I guess few people will be getting really really rich from this war but I assure you it wont be the Ukrainian public.
By that logic do you agree that the Palestinians have lost the war and no one should arm them, because its just creating more suffering and deaths? Is giving weaponry to them really a good thing?
 
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A young Ukrainian woman's shout-out from her underground shelter in Kyiv:

Olha Oltarzhevska has explained how before the war started, she lived “without knowing grief”, studied at university in Kyiv, played musical instruments, started taking Spanish courses and “lived a happy life” – and has for the past four years worked as a public relations specialist.

"Previously, I communicated with local media, but now, due to circumstances, I switched to international ones,” she said, adding that amid Russians having been “mercilessly” bombing her city for a fortnight, she and her family have been living in the basement for more than a week now, with children, the youngest of whom is a two-year-old.

"It’s the gates of insanity on the edge of humanity,” she states. "Explosions are heard every day. For the time being, we are not going to run anywhere from the city or from the country. Firstly, it is very risky, and secondly, our neighbours brought their children and a large number of pets to us. Therefore, we must take care of them. We are the only ones who have a basement in the house.”

She also cited a friend saying her mother gave an update on the situation in Mariupol. The city, which has a population of 446,000, has come under attack, with a children's hospital and maternity ward severely damaged last week, killing three people, and which Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky denounced as an “atrocity”. Mariupol has seen its death toll pass 1,500 in 12 days of attack, the mayor's office said.

The Ukrainian government said on Saturday that Russian forces pounding the port city shelled a mosque that was sheltering more than 80 people, including children, while fighting raged in the outskirts of Ukraine's capital, Kyiv, and Russia kept up its bombardment of other resisting cities.

Ukraine's military said on Saturday that Russian forces captured Mariupol's eastern outskirts, tightening the armed squeeze on the strategic city. Taking Mariupol and other ports on the Azov Sea could allow Russia to establish a land corridor to Crimea, which it seized from Ukraine in 2014.

Ms Oltarzhevska said her friend said: “There is no water, no food, people are sitting in the bunker, everyone is vomiting... people are dying just from dehydration, all humanitarian convoys heading to Mariupol are being shelled by the Russian military, people are lying in the streets, they are gone. It's genocide.

"The Russian military wanted to blow up a nuclear power plant in our country, they are aiming at hospitals, kindergartens and even dropped a bomb on... cemeteries.”

Ms Oltarzhevska added that Russia is waging war “not only on the battlefield, but also on the information front” – while she praised Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky as “very brave”.

Her update adds to the reports coming from the besieged country that reveal the impact of attacks, including an image from photographer Sergei Supinsky showing an abandoned doll next to a car riddled with bullets in Irpin, just north of Kyiv.

Other developments include President Zelensky accusing Russia of kidnapping the mayor of the southern port city of Melitopol.


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By that logic do you agree that the Palestinians have lost the war and no one should arm them, because its just creating more suffering and deaths? Is giving weaponry to them really a good thing?
I certainly don't agree that we should arm every Palestinians and ask them to fight fully armed and trained Israeli military. I would rather have the Muslim world fight on their behalf for their right of existence and their land and their history. I would rather see the Muslim world reign those 2000Ib bombs (that Israel drops on innocent people of Gaza) on Tel Aviv but that would be heartless of me considering loss of woman and children living there even though they enjoy the suffering caused by them on the Palestinians.

And by the way no one is arming them not like the west is arming Ukraine. Those small rockets they fire are mostly out of frustration and really doesn't make any impact on the wider scope of things. But the Israelis raise building with civilians to the ground through their western supplied weapons so please don't dare to say 70+ years of rape, murder, torture and genocide committed by the Zionists is the same as what Russians are doing to the Ukrainians.
 
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In response to a PDF member who was spewing out propaganda that Ukraine is run by Neo-Nazis, and Pro-Russians are executed on sight, I wrote the following comment:


......this is Cherry picking of the highest order. The Neo-Nazis in Ukraine account for less than 2% of the voters. They are the American equivalent of the Neo-confederates of America. Stop generalizing Ukrainian extremist to the whole country, and claiming that they are in charge of the country.

These are the same concerns every modern Islamic country is crying about: to stop generalizing extremism. But for some reason PDF members like you, want to do the same thing for Ukraine. I don't understand why you spew out biased Russian propaganda. You are the equivalent of western journalists who were supporting US claims of Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction in the early 2000s, just for the sake of justifying the hawkish rhetoric.

You and your hostility towards the West aside, you must not let go of the ground realities and facts. If you call the Iraq war a crime against humanity, you MUST call the Ukraine war a crime against humanity. Modern people who have access to facts, and have access to social media, will never pay heed to your baseless emotional propaganda.

Just for a reference, I have attached a picture of the atrocities of USSR against Ukraine for 70 years. This image might help you conceptualize the reasons given by the Ukrainian president, and almost every citizen of Ukraine, for why they are fighting against Russia with everything they have got.

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THESE ATROCITIES, ABOVE, ARE WHAT EVERY EAST EUROPEAN STATE IS RUNNING AWAY FROM.

Every person in Ukraine has heard stories from their grandparents about the lives they lived under Moscow's reign. Ukrainians might fight Russia till the end.

@dBSPL @F-22Raptor
 
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