Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Punch777 · Sep 29, 2023

aviator_fan said:
So 30 years later, Russia is proud of the same SU-35 design to counter the oldest F-16s (hand me downs) of oldest model F-16s built in the 70s and donated by Denmark, NL, and several other countries? This is the best Russia can do to counter the F-16s. Imagine fighting NATO with an SU-35, with a radar signature the size of a stadium with the F-35s/F-22s in service and the F-16s with later avionic and weapon upgrades

Stop whining about Su-35 and send the brand new F-35 and it won't cxhange a shit. Heard too many times about game changing weapons before.

Vergennes · Sep 29, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1707723767407947906

Viet · Sep 29, 2023

Uncle hirmas coming.

Viet · Sep 29, 2023

Russia bans gasoline and diesel exports. The Russians slip slowly towards Venezuela. Rich in oil, gas, and everything minerals but can’t make simple finished products. Venezuela can’t even make toilet paper. Even the Venezuela dollar is less worth than toilet paper.

How serious is Russia's fuel export ban and who will be hit?

Russia said exports would resume once it had stabilised its domestic market.

www.reuters.com

Vergennes · Sep 29, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1707804466865406416

Vergennes · Sep 30, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1707831854760431657

F-22Raptor · Sep 30, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1707886207143649768

Russian losses now exceed 12,300

The SC · Sep 30, 2023

The Fall | The Russians Are Gaining Momentum In The Bakhmut Direction. Military Summary 2023.9.29

aviator_fan · Sep 30, 2023

A.P. Richelieu said:
Appears to be Category C. Not A or B.

Eastern Jerusalem is annexed by Israel, (which is not recognized by anyone outside Israel). They use Israeli Law and not Ottoman Law which say that the property should be returned to the owner.

Ottoman Law is not applicable in Israel.

I certainly know when and where Ottoman Law is applicable and when not.
You apparently do not.
You are also unfamiliar with the Oslo agreement.
That is why you end up like You do.

What are you debating here? Are you brainwashed? This whole exchange started with you and somebody else comparing that what Ukraine is going through is wrong but what Israel does is right because it follows the law. And now your brainwashed conscience is playing tricks on you of 'categories a b are okay but c ' is not. I am sure Hitler had a similar set of rules which Nazis followed 'category a extermination is justified' and had legal scholars like you blessing it.

You went from 'Israel is innocent and merely applying the law' to 'Ottoman Law is not applicable in Israel'. If Israelis an use some flawed logic to blow Palestenians out of their homes, than Russia should just stay in Ukraine in the regions it has occupied and have some legal scholar with a brain like yours write the laws as Israelis have to justify its occupation

aviator_fan · Sep 30, 2023

Punch777 said:
Stop whining about Su-35 and send the brand new F-35 and it won't cxhange a shit. Heard too many times about game changing weapons before.

The only ones whining about the outdated F-16s with 40 year old airframes and 20 year old avionics are the Russians themselves. Or do you not consider the foreign ministry of 'enormous risks' as whining.

Meanwhile somebody else in Russia is whining about shooting down its own airplane. Better they shoot it down than the 70s built, 2000 upgraded F-16s.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/europe/russia-warning-f-16-jets-ukraine-intl/index.html

Russia warns West of ‘enormous risks’ if Ukraine is supplied with F-16 jets

Russia’s deputy foreign minister has warned Western countries of “enormous risks” if Ukraine is provided with F-16 fighter jets, Russian state media TASS reported Saturday.

The comments come after US President Joe Biden gave his backing for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to fly F-16s, reversing his previous position.

F-16s are considered high performance weapon systems with a range of 500 miles (860 kilometers), and would be an upgrade to the aircraft currently in Ukraine’s fleet.

Responding to the move, Alexander Grushko said: “We see that the Western countries are still adhering to the escalation scenario.

“It involves enormous risks for themselves. In any case, this will be taken into account in all our plans, and we have all the necessary means to achieve the set goals.”

Earlier this week, the UK and the Netherlands were reportedly building an “international coalition” to help Ukraine procure F-16 fighter jets.

A handful of European countries have a supply of US-made F-16s, including the Netherlands, which has signaled a willingness to export some of them to Ukraine. But the US would have to approve that third-party transfer because of the jets’ sensitive US technology.

Punch777 · Sep 30, 2023

aviator_fan said:
The only ones whining about the outdated F-16s with 40 year old airframes and 20 year old avionics are the Russians themselves. Or do you not consider the foreign ministry of 'enormous risks' as whining.

Meanwhile somebody else in Russia is whining about shooting down its own airplane. Better they shoot it down than the 70s built, 2000 upgraded F-16s.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/20/europe/russia-warning-f-16-jets-ukraine-intl/index.html

Russia warns West of ‘enormous risks’ if Ukraine is supplied with F-16 jets

Russia’s deputy foreign minister has warned Western countries of “enormous risks” if Ukraine is provided with F-16 fighter jets, Russian state media TASS reported Saturday.

The comments come after US President Joe Biden gave his backing for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to fly F-16s, reversing his previous position.

F-16s are considered high performance weapon systems with a range of 500 miles (860 kilometers), and would be an upgrade to the aircraft currently in Ukraine’s fleet.

Responding to the move, Alexander Grushko said: “We see that the Western countries are still adhering to the escalation scenario.

“It involves enormous risks for themselves. In any case, this will be taken into account in all our plans, and we have all the necessary means to achieve the set goals.”

Earlier this week, the UK and the Netherlands were reportedly building an “international coalition” to help Ukraine procure F-16 fighter jets.

A handful of European countries have a supply of US-made F-16s, including the Netherlands, which has signaled a willingness to export some of them to Ukraine. But the US would have to approve that third-party transfer because of the jets’ sensitive US technology.

Stop this crap and supply F-35 and we'll see how long they will last. West supplied all sort of weapons to Ukraine and Russian only used Iranian drone and it was like they supplied nukes to Russia.

Viet · Sep 30, 2023

From zdf.de

Life expectancy of Russia soldiers is very low. It is measured in hours.
Visiting one of the many prison camps in western Ukraine. Russian prisoners are treated as per Geneva convention.
6:00 wake up call
6:50 Breakfast
8:30-16:00 work in workshop
22:00 sleep
Everyday one minute silence service for fallen Ukraine soldiers. The minute is a must for Russian prisoners they not coming to Ukraine as tourists.