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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Russia contemplated the possibility of using tactical nukes or dirty bombs in Ukraine. But US informed Putin that it will intervene and finish the job of destroying Russian forces stationed inside Ukraine and around Ukraine in response.

Putin realized the stakes and shot down the proposal.

Russians are found to be pragmatic when it comes to nuclear option. They do not want to go this far in clashes involving NATO. Good for mankind.

Russians have won wars before. But there is no guarantee that they will succeed in every front that they might choose to open.

Wars suck, bro. Unfortunately, crackheads pop up from time to time and ruin many lives with bad decisions.
I would be surprised that Europe signs on this operation

A direct attack on Russian forces with that extent will 100% mean a nuclear retilation.

There is no Middle ground there.anyone who thinks like this is fool and USA forces aren't idiots

There is no

Doubt it.
Issue isn't Russia need a technology

Problem is it can't manufacturer them due to cost and manpower


This probably just a proxy to keep Iran out of it.

The supplies will come from iran
 


It looks like all of the propaganda waged by some in this forum and in other platforms are getting busted by US Joint Chiefs Chairman General Milley.

It is also evident that the West worries about the expected offensive from Russia during the winter.
Evident how? Please inform us on this upcoming russian winter blitzkrieg!

Is it going to be as succesfull as the bakhmur offensive these last months?
Or as succesfull as all those “pockets” you were seeing everywhere?
 

EDIT: Sorry I got the wrong video. I thought the one you posted was the one I was referring to below but it wasn't. I'll find the correct one and re-edit it into here.

Here it is; Retired Colonel Douglas McGregor who like I said is no slouch lol. This is a retired top US military personnel and the stuff he talks about is so candid and straight to the point and honestly in some areas favors Ukraine, but in large part, the Russians are doing some stuff that almost no one is talking about and many of the other things he says are truly incredible.


He said some incredible stuff. I watched the entire interview which I rarely spend an hour on something like this with so much from both sides that you don't know who's telling the truth. But when you hear someone like this guy, who is hardly a slouch, but an ex-US colonel come out and not even be shy about the numbers and tell it like it is according to him, it was gripping.

Besides the death tolls and the limited numbers of fighting units in the Ukrainian army and they're having excellent success is a lot in part because of these obviously deliberate retreats by Russia. But what got me the most is when he said the HIMARs are all operated by US personnel. Did you hear that part? He said that to become efficient enough to use that system which is designed to only be operated by 2 personnel, you need something like 6 months full training and then join an already operating unit to learn in field and because there are only 2 personnel operating that system, the one driving the unit alone has 1100 tasks LOL! I just about fell out of my chair when I heard him say that.

So hearing him talk about all the territories and the equipment and the numbers in amazing clarity and detail and be very partial to the Russian position despite where they were 3 months ago and now is not something those in the experienced military understand. They see the numbers and positions in a certain way and they can easily combine and assess the outlook of what it would take to even get into a good position for negotiations and he sees none of that. I thought this was probably the most fascinating talk about this war coming from one of the recent top retired US generals.
 
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https://****/Slavyangrad/21291 😡😡😡 😡😡😡⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ How Ukrainian media justify the Execution of Russian Fighters in #Makeyevka⚡

After footage of the killing of Russian prisoners of war in #Makeyevka, LPR appeared on the web, see 👉 here, Kiev launched a media campaign to justify the crimes of the AFU. For this purpose, a certain Thomas Tyner, calling himself an ex-serviceman of the Italian army, an expert on artillery and NATO, was brought in.

In a commentary to the Ukrainian media, he said that the AFU had actually been forced to shoot Russian Armed Forces fighters because one of them refused to surrender and showed up with a weapon. Members of the Ukrainian formations then allegedly automatically opened fire on the remaining unarmed prisoners lying on the ground, suspecting them of resistance.

🔻 There is just one small detail: the video from the murder scene clearly shows that the blood and bullet hits on all the bodies are in the head area. This means that each one was killed in turn by a targeted shot in a calm environment, which completely rules out the version of a spontaneous shooting.

The "expert" called by the Ukrainian media did not explain this uncomfortable fact. That is not surprising, because the incident is clearly beyond his competence: although Tyner positions himself as a military specialist, in early publications of Western publications he is for some reason listed only as a film producer, blogger or screenwriter.

While the Kiev media, albeit extremely ineptly, attempted to justify the extrajudicial execution, the Ukrainian armed forces reacted more simply: they recalled an unspoken internal order not to be caught red-handed killing prisoners. Which, incidentally, appeared back in the spring.

In these circumstances, it is somewhat reckless to expect Ukrainian formations to hint at humane treatment of prisoners who have surrendered.

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[21/11, 12:07] Shanlung: David Doran:
I assume the "expert" didnt explain the LMG trained on the Russia soldiers?

Helio:
Yeah most likely the guy firing around the corner was a fake and just used as failed justification

David Doran:
Yes....it was a planned, contrived massacre.

Helio:
RF should put everyone trying to lend credibility to this event on a hit list

Your_Dad:
Filthy Scums,
Even if their story is true that one Russian soilder resisted, then he should be shot, how the **** you would suspect those 9 POWs who were unarmed, lying on floor with their hands on the back of their head against a full fledged armed group of soilders to be dangerous??
How the **** they are dangerous? And how much damage could they cause? With their bare hands.

They all think we all are stupid idiots who will buy this shit you are explaining.

There is only punishment of that deed and that is brutal death and you all will pay and you all will regret.

They give us stupid explanation which no man would buy it until he is one of the worst idiots in the world.

Whole world is condemning and despising such evil act,

they lie about those execution ,they lie about missile attacks in Poland, lie about everything and they want us and everyone to believe the staged act in butcha, I have suspecion that they would have killed their own citezens just to frame a masscare and make Russia look evil.

Paul Rch:
Their justification is their incompetence as soldiers and lack of something very very important for a true soldier and man, BE A MAN and as a soldier have the capacity to distinguish between a combatant and a soldier who surrender.

Your_Dad:
They are only capable of doing some easy kills.
Killing Unarmed and helpless soilders, civilians is all what they can do at all.

They flee when Russian troops start attacking them, fucking cowards😌

Paul Rch:
Of course. It easy be a great soldier when they had unarmed soldiers in their front. Bastards.

Anthony:
In other words, the directive said, "You can murder your prisoners, but don't film it."

Geovanni Quiñonez:
That's plain and simple homicide

Nyamagormi:
When Russia catches any Azov soldier(s), they should be lined up on the ground and use a tank to work on their legs. They should then be left to die in an agonising manner

Stephen Dyer:
No, simply put none of the Nazi elements should be caught

No quarter to any of them.

Alan Koester:
But even more significant, they now admit the Russian POW's were shot and not killed by an artillery strike, and furthermore, they were shot by Ukrainian soldiers, albeit for the obviously rubbish exculpatory reasons they gave. Fact is, the footage is confirmed by their admission.

Stevan:
This video angered me beyond belief. I m still mad 🤬 Fkn ukronazis. Poor soldiers and their families. I really hope Russians find these pigs. Everything is already known, names, which unit they belong to etc.

S.A.:
This is so lowlife sad there are no words. Surrendering only to be shot like a jew in ww2 by ss nazi dogs.


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Look at this. Captured Ru civilian by the Ukros

Country 404, should cease to exist as a state.

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👆👆👆 Of course, country 404 plebs and supporters will find this extremely funny. I can imagine that they will bury him alive...PsychosJallow Mamadou Alpha:
Horrible

Ray:
Depraved satanists ... 😡

Миша Бурый:
He says: This is an orc in its original packaging! is the bitch still alive? Alive, close it

Марко | Z:
looks like a comment of a virgin who opens Telegram first time since the start of SMO and has no clue whatsoever about the atrocities filmed by ukrainian insects

Anu Media:
Never under estimate the depravity of NATO brainwashing on the subjected public. The Ukrainian zealot nationalist is manufactured by the USA/UK and NATO. Abolish NATO and sink the UK!

Миша Бурый:
When these bastards feel their impunity and the support of the whole of Europe and America in their crimes, they don't care what kind of video to shoot and they are not afraid to publish it.

James W:
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Ukrop propagandist stating blatant lies. Ukrops film themselves doing war crimes all the time

Everyone has seen how proud Ukrops are of their war crimes. They are not bashful or ashamed. Saying they are all fake is just retarded and outs user Mk as a propagandist or simply an idiot




That the kind of rubbish make belief garbage from Whitehouse and NATO to demonise Russia to make themselves (Whitehouse NATO) appear to be angels of purity.

When in fact calling Whitehouse NATO to be devils and demons will be to disparage devils and demons
An invading force that started an unnecessary war that has brought the death of tens of thousands of civilians is crying about the execution of soldiers from the LPR, the people that began all of the conflict in 2014?

Cope
 
I am hearing rumors that keep coming back again and again online that aside from the international legion which is rumored to be around 100.000 forces legion that is entirely made of foreigners there is another legion which is basically the Polish armed forces.

I have been hearing this rumor that since the summer that poland deployed their armed forces as volunteers and not to confuse them with the international legion. I am also hearing since the Russians attacked Poland itself few days ago the polish forces are refusing to join the Donbass offensive. They are also credited for the Kharkiv retake offensive behind closed doors..

I remember reading an article that came out early in the campaign saying they will use Pakistan as the blueprint on how to defeat Russia. They are creating illusions like deploying the polish armed forces like ghosts mixing truth and falsehood etc etc creating massive disinformation where you don't know what is what.. The Polish armed forces are fighting there but they can claim deniablitity etc etc creating illusions.

Russia's intelligence is really not upto date in this war because they don't know who is who on the Ukraine side as the international volunteers the polish armed forces have been on the ground for months now. Duda is trying to keep the war there at all costs..

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Sooner or later the Russian intelligence will unravel files and understand to the extent Duda is actully involved in this war. I also believe that missile was a warning to duda and it was not from Ukrainian S-300 but the Russians themselves who know about the Polish forces in Donbass.
 
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I am hearing rumors that keep coming back again and again online that aside from the international legion which is rumored to be around 100.000 forces legion that is entirely made of foreigners there is another legion which is basically the Polish armed forces.

Lol, the legion was at most 12000-13000 at its peak, with around 5000 bailing out in first months of war, or deemed unfit for service.

The biggest part are Georgians, and French ex-Foreign-Legion, then Americans, Poles, and Chechenians.

There are, maybe, 8000-10000 regular foreign well-wishers, distributing aid, helping civilians, fixing equipment, doing medevac, etc, but they don't take formal membership in any unit.

So, at most, there are 5000 people who know how to fight as proper light infantry.
 
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Lol, the legion was at most 12000-13000 at its peak, with around 5000 bailing out in first months of war, or deemed unfit for service.

The biggest part are Georgians, and French ex-Foreign-Legion, then Americans, Poles, and Chechenians.

There are, maybe, 8000-10000 regular foreign well-wishers, distributing aid, helping civilians, doing medevac, etc, but they don't take formal membership in any unit.

Distributing aid? Get outta here with that bro. There is literally videos of the International legion fighting in the east and they are way more then 10k.. They have 20.000 listed but the actual numbers is higher then what they have listed..

As for the Polish armed forces being embedded it is only rumors at this point until there is proper intelligence carried out there
 
Distributing aid? Got outta with that bro. There is literally videos of the International legion fighting in east and they are way more then 10k.. They have 20.000 listed but the numbers are actual is higher then what they have listed..

As for the Polish armed forces being embedded it is only rumors at this point until there is proper intelligence carried out there

Yes, there was enough troops for 2.5 battalions back in March-April, and they were thrown into Severo in the summer, where they fought well.

3000-4000 of motivated crack troops with specific light infantry training is still hell of a force.

P.S. they do not take anybody from a "red" country, even if they profess their anti-communist views.
 
Yes, there was enough troops for 2.5 battalions back in March-April, and they were thrown into Severo in the summer, where they fought well.

3000-4000 of motivated crack troops with specific light infantry training is still hell of a force.

P.S. they do not take anybody from a "red" country, even if they profess their anti-communist views.





At this point still rumors.. I am still willing to tell you that this is still in the treeshold of only rumors but there is some sort of a polish foot-print everywhere. I believe with a geninue ground intelligence that people will find out few Polish divisions active in Ukraine all tho not enough to shift the reality on the ground but still significiantly present
 
Is it going to be as succesfull as the bakhmur offensive these last months?
Or as succesfull as all those “pockets” you were seeing everywhere?
Yes it will.

regarding general Milley and his opinions, hmmmm, that's interesting that he doesnt think Ukraine is likely to take the land back. did he think Taliban would take Afghanistan back? That would be interesting to know.



It looks like all of the propaganda waged by some in this forum and in other platforms are getting busted by US Joint Chiefs Chairman General Milley.

It is also evident that the West worries about the expected offensive from Russia during the winter.


If Ukraine did lose 100,000 soldiers, thats pretty bad, but if that death toll is enough to change borders, than any country that wants to expand borders just has to kill 100,000 of the other side and hey presto, you got someones land and made it your own. I imagine Israel would be the first to try that new trick, the "kill 100,000 soldiers and take land" trick. Or Mexicans could do it to Americans, start a war and kill 100k of them and get California back.

Does that mean Russia was pretty foolish to fight Nazi Germany when it lost its first million soldiers? Why not just give up and save all the lives.

I recall Bosnia losing 100,000 people to secure its independence and we had population of 4 million. So I guess Ukraine would need casualties of 1 million before it should even contemplate giving up its territory. Bosnia had no plans to give up territory at 100,000 deaths. So why should ukraine? And lets not forget how many foreign fighters are prepared to fight in ukraine.

If I was zelensky, I would not negotiate until I hit 1 to 1.5 million deaths range. I mean it all depends on how badly you want to have a country. If they are prepared to live under russia, then I cant undrstand why fight a war in the first place. If they want freedom, well, now is the time to fight. US was prepared to sacrifice 700,000 people to keep its country together in the civil war. So yeah, freedom usually comes with a big price tag.
 
Yes it will.

regarding general Milley and his opinions, hmmmm, that's interesting that he doesnt think Ukraine is likely to take the land back. did he think Taliban would take Afghanistan back? That would be interesting to know.




If Ukraine did lose 100,000 soldiers, thats pretty bad, but if that death toll is enough to change borders, than any country that wants to expand borders just has to kill 100,000 of the other side and hey presto, you got someones land and made it your own. I imagine Israel would be the first to try that new trick, the "kill 100,000 soldiers and take land" trick. Or Mexicans could do it to Americans, start a war and kill 100k of them and get California back.

Does that mean Russia was pretty foolish to fight Nazi Germany when it lost its first million soldiers? Why not just give up and save all the lives.

I recall Bosnia losing 100,000 people to secure its independence and we had population of 4 million. So I guess Ukraine would need casualties of 1 million before it should even contemplate giving up its territory. Bosnia had no plans to give up territory at 100,000 deaths. So why should ukraine? And lets not forget how many foreign fighters are prepared to fight in ukraine.

If I was zelensky, I would not negotiate until I hit 1 to 1.5 million deaths range. I mean it all depends on how badly you want to have a country. If they are prepared to live under russia, then I cant undrstand why fight a war in the first place. If they want freedom, well, now is the time to fight. US was prepared to sacrifice 700,000 people to keep its country together in the civil war. So yeah, freedom usually comes with a big price tag.
"Or Mexicans could do it to Americans, start a war and kill 100k of them and get California back." -California belonged to the native Americans and not not Mexicans , so Mexicans have no claim to it.
 
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