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I dont see the "genius" idea.

Any GNSS can be jammed, Inertial Guidance can't be jammed.

I guess Shaheds-136 have the GNSS antenna as directional antenna pointing only to sky to avoid jamming.

So the solution must be put something higher than shahed in the sky jamming Glonass signal. A kind of air balloon just to fck up Glonass signal.

Something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loon_LLC

But just to fck Glonass signal.
 
Rails are easy to repair. An engineering battalion needs less than an hour do things like put a fill, compact, weld rails, and restore signalling

A train bridge is not easy to repair. There are no bridges in all train line?
 
Russia has these ready, would it be classified as a WMD?:-

Father of All Bombs​

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"The Father of All Bombs" (FOAB)
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TypeThermobaric bomb
Place of originRussia
Used byRussian Air Force
WarsRussian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War
DesignerRussian military
Produced2007
Mass7,100 kg (15,650 lb)

FillingHigh explosive and fine aluminum powder and ethylene oxide mix.
Blast yield44 tons TNT / 88,000 Ibs
Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP; Russian: Авиационная вакуумная бомба повышенной мощности, АВБПМ),[1] nicknamed "Father of All Bombs" (FOAB; Russian: "Папа всех бомб", Пвб),[2] is a Russian-designed, bomber-delivered thermobaric weapon.
The bomb is reportedly similar to the US military's GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast which is often unofficially called "Mother of All Bombs" derived from its official military acronym "MOAB". This weapon would therefore be the most powerful conventional (non-nuclear) weapon in the world.[3] However, the veracity of Russia's claims concerning the weapon's size and power have been questioned by US defense analysts.[4]
"FOAB" was successfully field-tested in the late evening of 11 September 2007.[5] The new weapon is to replace several smaller types of nuclear bombs in the Russian arsenal.[6]

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Fireball blast from the Russian "Father of All Bombs", with the beginnings of a mushroom cloud
The thermobaric device yields the equivalent of 44 tons of TNT using about seven tons of a new type of high explosive.[7] Because of this, the bomb's blast and pressure wave have a similar effect to a small tactical nuclear weapon.[8] The bomb works by detonating in mid-air. Most damage is inflicted by a supersonic shockwave and extremely high temperatures.[6][9] Thermobaric weapons differ from conventional explosive weapons in that they generate a longer, more sustained blast wave with greater temperatures. In doing so, they produce more damage over a larger area than a conventional weapon of similar mass.[3]

Operational history[edit]​

On 8 September 2017, unconfirmed reports of the Russian Defense Ministry announced it had tested the FOAB in combat for the first time in Syria as a part of its military campaign in the region.[10]

Claims[edit]​

According to General Aleksandr Rukshin, the Russian Deputy Chief of Staff, the new bomb was smaller than the MOAB but much deadlier because the temperature at the centre of the blast is twice as high.[5][11][12] He claimed the bomb's capabilities are comparable to nuclear weapons, but unlike nuclear weaponry known for its radioactive fallout, use of the weapon does not damage or pollute the environment beyond the blast radius.[6]
In comparison, the MOAB produces the equivalent of 11 tons of TNT from 8 tons of high explosive. The blast radius of the FOAB is 300 meters, almost double that of the MOAB, and the temperature produced is twice as high.[9]
IndicatorMОАВ[13]FОАВ[14]
Origin:
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US
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Russia
Mass:10.3 tonnes7.1 tonnes
Length9.19 m7 m
Diameter1030 mm7 - 930+ mm
TNT equivalent:11 tons (22,000 lb)≈44 tons (≈88,000 lb)
Blast radius:150 meters (492 ft)300 meters (984 ft)
Guidance:INS/GPSGLONASS

Analysis and veracity[edit]​

Some defense analysts question both the yield of the bomb and whether it could be deployed by a Tupolev Tu-160 bomber. A report by Wired[4] says photos and the video of the event suggest that it is designed to be deployed from the rear of a slow moving cargo plane, and they note that the bomb-test video released by the Russians never shows both the bomb and the bomber in the same camera shot. There are also questions on what type of explosives it used. They quoted Tom Burky, a senior research scientist at Battelle, saying "It's not even clear what kind of weapon the Russians tested." He questions if it was what some experts call a fuel-air explosive or if it was a thermobaric weapon. "Fuel-air and thermobaric bombs differ in usefulness". Burky says that the weapon depicted in the video appears to be a fuel-air explosive, based on its shape.[4]
German military analyst Sascha Lange speaking at Deutsche Welle pointed out multiple discrepancies of the released video and expressed his skepticism.[15]
John Pike, an analyst at the think tank GlobalSecurity, says he believes the weapon is roughly as powerful as the Russians claim. What he does not necessarily believe is that the weapon is new. He says the Russians have possessed a range of thermobaric weapons for at least four decades.[4]
Robert Hewson, an editor for Jane's Information Group, told the BBC it was likely that FOAB indeed represented the world's biggest non-nuclear bomb. "You can argue about the numbers and how you scale this but the Russians have a long and proven history of developing weapons in the thermobaric class", he says.[4][8] UPI claimed the device "would enormously boost Russia's conventional military capabilities".[4]

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References[edit]​

  1. ^ Romanized as Aviatsonnaya vakuumaya bomba povyshennoy moshchnosti (AVBPM) or scientifically transliterated as Aviacionnaja vakuumaja povyšennoj bomba moščnosti.
  2. ^ Transliterated as Papa vsekh bomb (Pvb)
  3. ^ Jump up to:a b Luke Harding (2007-09-12). "Russia unveils the 'father of all bombs'". London: Guardian Unlimited. Retrieved 2007-09-12.
  4. ^ Jump up to:a b c d e f "Did Russia Stage the Father of All Bombs Hoax?". Wired.com. October 4, 2007. Retrieved 2007-10-04.
  5. ^ Jump up to:a b Илья Kрамник (2007-09-12). Кузькин отец (in Russian). Lenta.Ru. Retrieved 2007-09-12.
  6. ^ Jump up to:a b c Russia tests `world's most powerful bomb, Russia Today Retrieved on March 18, 1987
  7. ^ "Trump Dropped Mother of All Bombs. But he Wasn't Expecting Russia to do This – Belair Daily". www.belairdaily.com. Archived from the original on 2017-05-17. Retrieved 2017-04-16.
  8. ^ Jump up to:a b Russia tests giant fuel-air bomb BBC News, 12 September 2007, Retrieved on March 18, 2008
  9. ^ Jump up to:a b The "Father" of All Bombs Retrieved on March 18, 2008 Military.com
  10. ^ "Don't let the Islamic State slip the noose in Syria". 23 December 2017. Archived from the original on 2017-09-12.
  11. ^ Adrian Blomfield (2007-09-12). "Russian army 'tests the father of all bombs'". The Daily Telegraph. London. Archived from the original on 2007-10-13. Retrieved 2007-09-12.
  12. ^ "Российская вакуумная бомба сравнима по мощности с ядерным боеприпасом" (in Russian). NewsRibbon. 2007-09-12. Archived from the original on September 30, 2007. Retrieved 2007-09-12.
  13. ^ Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb – Aviation Thermobatic Bomb
  14. ^ (АTBIP) Aviation Thermobatic Bomb with Increased Power – Aviation Thermobaric Bomb
  15. ^ "Russian Bomb Claims Qu
 
Russia has these ready, would it be classified as a WMD?:-


Father of All Bombs​



I don't know and don't care. I say use whatever you can; the US used MOAB in Afghanistan; this should be permissible. You don't know how well something works in combat unless you use it, fisabilillah Kar ka Chalo.
 
If Russia's close ally is advising it's people to leave then something big must be about to happen, this war must be stopped.

Iran Advises Citizens to Leave Ukraine​

Iran Advises Citizens to Leave Ukraine

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Iran called on the Iranian nationals residing in Ukraine to leave that country for their own safety.​

The Consular Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Iran issued a travel advisory about Ukraine on Friday.
“Considering the escalation of military clashes and increased insecurity in Ukraine, all Iranian nationals are strongly advised to refrain from traveling to that country,” the advisory said.
The department has also seriously called on the Iranian citizens to leave Ukraine to protect their life and safety.
It has also called on the Iranian citizens to remain calm and call the Iranian Embassy in Kyiv when necessary.
The US, France and the UK have called a closed-door Security Council meeting on the alleged use of Iranian suicide drones in Ukraine war.
Russia has warned the United Nations against investigating its use of drones in Ukraine, while Iran has repeatedly rejected the accusations that it has delivered military drones to Russia for use in the Ukraine war.
 
you see part of the effectiveness of shahed or harpy or harop and other design like this is the material you build the body from , those cant be made at home easily , even if you buy all the electronics from AliExpress (honestly i didn't knew they sell chips , taught only commercial boards is in their list) there are some small parts that make the difference . that INS is custom design , you can't get it on aliexpress , the board is custom design , you cant build it in your house as it is several layer not just two layer .and so many small thing . if they invest they can build it as its not that complex but certainly not in a home grade workshop


business is business , it knew no mother or father.
we learnt it from west , didn't you guys wanted us to embrace capitalism?
While I didn't agree on earlier points, on an intellectual basis there is no restriction on Iran supplying drones. That much I will agree with you , and Iran could potentially be a supplier to both sides.

But why is Iran denying it drone supplies? Why not hang head high in the air with conviction and basis of their decision to the same level you have it. THats not a trick it learned from the west?
 
Im sorry. Your reply sounds like a printout from an Alex Jones broadcast.
The only reason NATO is labelled a threat by Putin is because ukrainian NATO membership would deny Russia any possible future annexation of ukrainian territory. The russian propaganda narrative is total bullshit. NATO is no threat to russian territory at all.
Russia doesnt consider Ukraine a brother nation. They wanted another vassal state like Belarus an the other CSTO nations used to be. To bad this russian adventure made it clear to the world the king is naked.
Good luck with your fleet and imperial ambitions. Now go join the Peoples Liberation Army.

Once you said NATO which attacked multiple sovereign countries without any UN mandate as no threat, I know I cannot save you from your delusion.
 
What happens in Bachmut?

Russia army and their paid hooligans storming the city for 4 months now.

Ukraine defense still standing


A Ukrainian serviceman reacts as a self-propelled artillery vehicle fires near Bakhmut, Donetsk region, Ukraine, Oct. 22, 2022.

A Ukrainian serviceman reacts as a self-propelled artillery vehicle fires near Bakhmut, Donetsk region, Ukraine, Oct. 22, 2022.
 
where i said , Iran drones use ins to hit the target , if they wanted to use INS , they would have been another V1 . they are not , INS is there to help if the connection to satellite is lost , it use that ins to go toward the target , and as soon as it find satellite connection for several second , it fix that ins inaccuracy problem , if again the satellite is lost it again fallback to ins and continue toward target , if again it can connect to satellite well no problem , it fix the coordinate and INS and go toward the target , if no the satellite don't come back , no biggie its only less than 20000$ , sorry children in kindergarten that it fall on your head , your government was too lazy to effectively counter the drone, or just cared about the elites not you.

about Gepard radar , like any radar it has its limitation . let compare normal drone to F-4 and this drone to F-117 . a question for you do the radars detect them at the same distances?
That’s not new. Kalibr cruise missiles work on the same principle. That’s not a secret, lots of cruise missiles work the same way. They turn off onboard radars to avoid early detection. If Iran drone work so with on/off guidance then ok.
I think you misunderstood. Gepard is a flak tank it is designed to fight deep and very fast flying enemy aircraft and helicopters, not high flying objects. Gepard has 2 radars acquisition radar and fire control radar. Slow flying objects as Iran drones are easy targets at all. Germany has 420 Gepard flak tanks. Ukraine gets the gepards because they are getting aged they are replaced by higher performance flak tanks of Rheinmetall.

 

What happens in Bachmut?

Russia army and their paid hooligans storming the city for 4 months now.

Ukraine defense still standing


A Ukrainian serviceman reacts as a self-propelled artillery vehicle fires near Bakhmut, Donetsk region, Ukraine, Oct. 22, 2022.

A Ukrainian serviceman reacts as a self-propelled artillery vehicle fires near Bakhmut, Donetsk region, Ukraine, Oct. 22, 2022.

4 months is nothing in a war that lasts more than 100 years.
 
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