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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Stop making shit up. If the Russians lost over 1100, why did the West attack Nord Stream 2? It is certainly an act of desperation on the part of Western powers after Russia announced the partial mobilization and those Iranian-built drones were introduced into the conflict. The whole muh HIMARS claims were no longer working, and the Western elites started attacking a civilian pipeline due to panicking.

Now, you can watch these Shahed-136 drones that are wreaking havoc on Western equipment in Ukraine. 👇


Destroyed Ukrainian equipment 👇

Not bad. Now Iran has chosen the side. They should not blame if the west tightens the screw. they support Russia although Putin ousts iran oil exports to Asia. Dumb people.
 
Putin will be the only leader in history that created war refugees outside and inside his country: first the rich left, and now the able bodied younger ones leaving.

Yes I know, we can't/shouldn't believe these numbers, because Russia has it together and we should follow Twitter handles that promote a Russia only view because if Russian's said anything against, they would be arrested and jailed.

But I will trust the quotes from Govt officials in Georgia, Kasakhastan that are quoted here and have to provide housing and sustainance for these large numbers.

And once they settle in, chances they go back is zero .

Russians who fled Putin's mobilization speak out​

Huge lines of traffic have formed at borders as Russians seek to get out.
ByPatrick Reevell
September 27, 2022, 4:26 PM


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2:55

Fears of escalation mount amid Russian war in Ukraine
Fears of escalation mount amid Russian war in Ukraine
With escalating resistance across Russia to Putin’s new military draft, thousands have taken to the streets to protest.


Tens of thousands of Russians continue to try to flee the country, fearful of being caught up in the military mobilization ordered by president Vladimir Putin last week to replenish his forces in Ukraine.
Miles-long lines of traffic have formed at border crossings with some neighboring countries amid the exodus, as Russians pack exit routes, worried the government might soon impose further restrictions on military age men leaving.
PHOTO: This satellite image provided by Maxar Technologies on Sept. 26, 2022, shows an overview of the traffic jam near the Russia border with Georgia on Sept. 25, 2022, after Russian President Vladamir Putin announced a partial mobilization in Russia.

This satellite image provided by Maxar Technologies on Sept. 26, 2022, shows an overview of the traffic jam near the Russia border with Georgia on Sept. 25, 2022, after Russian President Vladamir Putin annou...
Maxar Technologies via AP
Officials in Kazakhstan, which borders Russia to the south, said 98,000 Russians have crossed into their country since Putin announced the mobilization last Wednesday. Georgia's interior ministry told ABC News Tuesday that 100,000 had entered its territory in the past few days. Tens of thousands more have left via other countries, including Finland and Mongolia. The European Union's border service said 66,000 Russians had entered the bloc over the past week, 30% more than the week before.

MORE: Wait reaches 40 to 50 hours as people attempt to flee into Georgia to avoid draft: Report​


Russians began fleeing the country within hours of Putin's ordering what he called a "partial" mobilization to call-up 300,000 men in an effort to reverse the course of his faltering war in Ukraine. In reality, experts say there are little restrictions on who can be drafted and there are widespread reports of men being mobilized regardless of their eligibility.
Although the mobilization for now is officially meant to apply only to those with some military experience, many fear the criteria could be expanded and that the government could block military age men from leaving the country. Men subject to the draft are barred from leaving the country and widespread reports are emerging of men with military experience being turned back from borders.
PHOTO: Russians wait and lineup to get Kazakhstan's INN in a public service center in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Sept. 27, 2022.

Russians wait and lineup to get Kazakhstan's INN in a public service center in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Sept. 27, 2022.
Vladimir Tretyakov/NUR.KZ via AP
At the Verkhny Lars crossing where Russia borders Georgia, a line of hundreds of cars has formed, stretching back around 12 miles, according to journalists there, with thousands of people waiting, some sleeping in their cars. The BBC reported 2,500 cars were currently in the line, citing Russia's customs service.
Russian authorities on Tuesday confirmed that Russian troops with armored vehicles had set up a checkpoint at the crossing to turn back those subject to the call-up and were handing out draft papers there. Officials said a mobile enlistment office had also been set up at the border crossing.
Kazakhstan, which has a nearly 5,000 mile-long border with Russia and a relaxed entry regime, has become a magnet for those leaving, with border crossings swamped. A 37-year-old man who entered Kazakhstan Monday near the Oral-Uralsk crossing said the line of traffic waiting at one checkpoint point now stretched nearly 20 miles.
"There's simply a hellish line -- it's endless. And moreover at all checkpoints," the man, a manager from Tver, a city just outside Moscow, said by phone. He asked to remain anonymous for fear of punishment by the Russian authorities.
PHOTO: People ride bicycles along a queue of vehicles at the Verkhny Lars checkpoint in North Ossetia, Russia on the border to Georgia, on Sept. 27, 2022. Around 3.5 thousand cars are queueing at the checkpoint to cross the border from Russia to Georgia.

People ride bicycles along a queue of vehicles at the Verkhny Lars checkpoint in North Ossetia, Russia on the border to Georgia, on Sept. 27, 2022. Around 3.5 thousand cars are queueing at the checkpoint t...
Yelena Afonina/TASS via ZUMA Press
The man said he had spent 20 hours by road to reach the border from Moscow and was now in the border city of Uralsk, on the Kazakhstan side. Although he is currently not subject to the draft because he has no military experience, he said he had still decided to flee because he feared the borders being closed soon and did not believe in fighting against Ukraine.

Not bad. Now Iran has chosen the side. They should not blame if the west tightens the screw. they support Russia although Putin ousts iran oil exports to Asia. Dumb people.
Iranians are the most selfish b***t*ds , like their Saudi brethren.

These drones are useless against Israel and they know it, so they never used it once. Instead they let Hamas attack Israel with projectiles that are intercepted but then in the counter-fire Palestinians civilians get slaughtered every time. This is Iran's strength.

So their strength is to brain wash and provide substandard weapons to groups that will stand up against Israel except they end up getting slaughtered: in Lebanon, Gaza, and more recently Syria.

But their supremacy is against Saudi Arabia where they can do some damage. Of course the entire Saudi military apparatus is as retarded as their ability to conduct intelligence: the joke of the century to murder your own citizen in your consulate that is almost always under surveiilance by your host country.
 
If NATO -Russia nuke war starts these weapons could be used and it appears both sides are intensely preparing:-

 
Don’t you think the Russians would be testing them first before buying !!!

Actually Iranian drones are already being used in Ukrainian I have seen the footage. Russia is not saying much neither is iran but Ukraine military has said their equipment is being destroyed by the Iranian kamikaze drones ?
First of all, if Russia need to buy Iranian drone, they are desperate, I mean you have Chinese Drone, you have Israeli drone you have other drone in the market. You don't buy Iranian drone unless you are pretty desperate.

Secondly, all the footage (the one people confirmed) are they are being used to hit what we call Static or Hard target. which mean encampment, building and ammunition depot, I don't think I have seen any Iranian drone were used to target soft target. Which is what Russia need to take on now, hard target won't do much on a mobile battlefield, and it is quite clearly the road Ukrainian is going for. Because by the time you hit those targets, the frontline may already be pushed 10s if not hundreds of miles further, rendering those targets useless.

And equipment is a broad term, a tank is equipment, a radar system is a equipment, the computer on a HQ is also a equipment, again, I am not saying Ukraine loses nothing over those Iranian drone, and they are not a problem per se (well, it actually isn't at this point) but I am saying the problem is more or less nuisance and they cannot be used to target soft target or mobile target, otherwise they would already been deployed to Kherson and Kharkiv frontline, when the Russian is hanging on by a thread.
 
You down understand man. Russian can not lose.
It's much rather Russia cannot AFFORD to lose, but not that they cannot lose, because they are going to lose in Ukraine. In fact, as I and many had already mentioned here and analyst worldwide said they had ALREAD LOST in term of strategic position, because in one stroke, they themselves had relegated to pariah state of the world, and now it pretty much depends on China to keep the government from malfunctioning. Border with NATO country increases instead of decreases, and then they got stuck with an angry neighbor have enough weapon that can take them down and a collective west that are more than happy to keep supplying them weapon to screw with the Russia. What Russia get in return? the "annexed" state?

Annexing those state is an act of desperation for Russia, that's literally the last draw because they would have to put their money to their mouth and really defend with everything they have when those annexed territories eventually get attacked. Nobody, not the west, not the Ukrainian is going to even entertain the fact that those state are now "Russian Territories". Which mean if this is the case, there are only 2 options left for Russia, they either call for a general mobilisation, or use nuke. To do either of that is basically Putin's political and probably literal suicide.

You asked me before what can the Russian middle class do when they are mobilised? Well, have you seen the state of affair in Russia lately? And that's not even them being mobilising, now imagine when Putin come down with a news that they are going to use nuke and bring them all down with him because of this war, or literally bring them to the war by drafting each and every one of them. What would you think will happen?
 
Putin will be the only leader in history that created war refugees outside and inside his country: first the rich left, and now the able bodied younger ones leaving.

Yes I know, we can't/shouldn't believe these numbers, because Russia has it together and we should follow Twitter handles that promote a Russia only view because if Russian's said anything against, they would be arrested and jailed.

But I will trust the quotes from Govt officials in Georgia, Kasakhastan that are quoted here and have to provide housing and sustainance for these large numbers.

And once they settle in, chances they go back is zero .

Russians who fled Putin's mobilization speak out​

Huge lines of traffic have formed at borders as Russians seek to get out.
ByPatrick Reevell
September 27, 2022, 4:26 PM


russia-georgia-border-ap-jt-220927_1664307728289_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


2:55

Fears of escalation mount amid Russian war in Ukraine
Fears of escalation mount amid Russian war in Ukraine
With escalating resistance across Russia to Putin’s new military draft, thousands have taken to the streets to protest.


Tens of thousands of Russians continue to try to flee the country, fearful of being caught up in the military mobilization ordered by president Vladimir Putin last week to replenish his forces in Ukraine.
Miles-long lines of traffic have formed at border crossings with some neighboring countries amid the exodus, as Russians pack exit routes, worried the government might soon impose further restrictions on military age men leaving.
PHOTO: This satellite image provided by Maxar Technologies on Sept. 26, 2022, shows an overview of the traffic jam near the Russia border with Georgia on Sept. 25, 2022, after Russian President Vladamir Putin announced a partial mobilization in Russia.

This satellite image provided by Maxar Technologies on Sept. 26, 2022, shows an overview of the traffic jam near the Russia border with Georgia on Sept. 25, 2022, after Russian President Vladamir Putin annou...
Maxar Technologies via AP
Officials in Kazakhstan, which borders Russia to the south, said 98,000 Russians have crossed into their country since Putin announced the mobilization last Wednesday. Georgia's interior ministry told ABC News Tuesday that 100,000 had entered its territory in the past few days. Tens of thousands more have left via other countries, including Finland and Mongolia. The European Union's border service said 66,000 Russians had entered the bloc over the past week, 30% more than the week before.

MORE: Wait reaches 40 to 50 hours as people attempt to flee into Georgia to avoid draft: Report


Russians began fleeing the country within hours of Putin's ordering what he called a "partial" mobilization to call-up 300,000 men in an effort to reverse the course of his faltering war in Ukraine. In reality, experts say there are little restrictions on who can be drafted and there are widespread reports of men being mobilized regardless of their eligibility.
Although the mobilization for now is officially meant to apply only to those with some military experience, many fear the criteria could be expanded and that the government could block military age men from leaving the country. Men subject to the draft are barred from leaving the country and widespread reports are emerging of men with military experience being turned back from borders.
PHOTO: Russians wait and lineup to get Kazakhstan's INN in a public service center in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Sept. 27, 2022.'s INN in a public service center in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Sept. 27, 2022.

Russians wait and lineup to get Kazakhstan's INN in a public service center in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Sept. 27, 2022.
Vladimir Tretyakov/NUR.KZ via AP
At the Verkhny Lars crossing where Russia borders Georgia, a line of hundreds of cars has formed, stretching back around 12 miles, according to journalists there, with thousands of people waiting, some sleeping in their cars. The BBC reported 2,500 cars were currently in the line, citing Russia's customs service.
Russian authorities on Tuesday confirmed that Russian troops with armored vehicles had set up a checkpoint at the crossing to turn back those subject to the call-up and were handing out draft papers there. Officials said a mobile enlistment office had also been set up at the border crossing.
Kazakhstan, which has a nearly 5,000 mile-long border with Russia and a relaxed entry regime, has become a magnet for those leaving, with border crossings swamped. A 37-year-old man who entered Kazakhstan Monday near the Oral-Uralsk crossing said the line of traffic waiting at one checkpoint point now stretched nearly 20 miles.
"There's simply a hellish line -- it's endless. And moreover at all checkpoints," the man, a manager from Tver, a city just outside Moscow, said by phone. He asked to remain anonymous for fear of punishment by the Russian authorities.
PHOTO: People ride bicycles along a queue of vehicles at the Verkhny Lars checkpoint in North Ossetia, Russia on the border to Georgia, on Sept. 27, 2022. Around 3.5 thousand cars are queueing at the checkpoint to cross the border from Russia to Georgia.

People ride bicycles along a queue of vehicles at the Verkhny Lars checkpoint in North Ossetia, Russia on the border to Georgia, on Sept. 27, 2022. Around 3.5 thousand cars are queueing at the checkpoint t...
Yelena Afonina/TASS via ZUMA Press
The man said he had spent 20 hours by road to reach the border from Moscow and was now in the border city of Uralsk, on the Kazakhstan side. Although he is currently not subject to the draft because he has no military experience, he said he had still decided to flee because he feared the borders being closed soon and did not believe in fighting against Ukraine.


Iranians are the most selfish b***t*ds , like their Saudi brethren.

These drones are useless against Israel and they know it, so they never used it once. Instead they let Hamas attack Israel with projectiles that are intercepted but then in the counter-fire Palestinians civilians get slaughtered every time. This is Iran's strength.

So their strength is to brain wash and provide substandard weapons to groups that will stand up against Israel except they end up getting slaughtered: in Lebanon, Gaza, and more recently Syria.

But their supremacy is against Saudi Arabia where they can do some damage. Of course the entire Saudi military apparatus is as retarded as their ability to conduct intelligence: the joke of the century to murder your own citizen in your consulate that is almost always under surveiilance by your host country.
Those Iran made drones are too few in numbers, too small in size for payloads. They do suicide attacks like the russians do terror attacks against Ukraine infra. They may have some psychological affects. In bigger pictures those drones won’t change anything on battlefields.
Ukraine pressures the west to deliver anti drone defense, once delivered those drones would be useless. On the other hand Iran economy and diplomatic standings will be damaged for few rubble from Putin. As said, dumb.
That’s what you get when the fate of country is in the hands of fanatics.
 

Ukrainian Flag hoisted over Kup'yans'k-Vuzlovyi​


Ukrainian had expanded the beachhead South over East Kupiansk.

For those who do not know, or can't read tactical situation, you need that town to protect the flank of Ukrainian troop moving toward Svatove along P07, my guess is they are going to take Pishchane and Kyslivka next. Then it will start challenging Svatove itself.
 

The west uses Heavy Metal on advance interrogation, but seems like no Heavy Working band want to work with Russia and they have to use ABBA's Mamma Mia sound track......Do they know?
Damn. I would rather die than listen to that song all day

Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council:

I repeat..we will use nuclear to defend Russia..this is not a hoax

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@US_World1
Holy shit he looks like Nigel Farage
 

Ukrainian Flag hoisted over Kup'yans'k-Vuzlovyi​


Ukrainian had expanded the beachhead South over East Kupiansk.

For those who do not know, or can't read tactical situation, you need that town to protect the flank of Ukrainian troop moving toward Svatove along P07, my guess is they are going to take Pishchane and Kyslivka next. Then it will start challenging Svatove itself.

Russians are still concentrating their efforts (without much success for MONTHS) on the Bakhmut front while they are being flanked in the north by the Ukrainians. Russians are very smart if you ask me.
 
Probably made less than 10 posts in total on this thread. Hardly hours upon hours.
Have you given up hope on Putin bringing immeasurable pain to your country and fellow Dutch nationals?

There is a sizeable portion of the European population that would rather make peace with Russia. You are ill informed.
 
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