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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Russian already won the war in Europe

I doubt they would at this stage ask Hamas to attack when the job is done

and even they dont have that much influence over Hamas

I must have missed the victory speech then.
Not even russian supporters think they have already won, please live in reality. It will be a huge victory for Russia if it gets to keep the currently occupied areas and somehow achieve ceasfire. The only thing at this moment that can help russia keep these areasn progress maybe, is if china sends them huge amount of weapons and ammunition, which i think china will never do. Lets see how much ammunition North korea provides. I think even iran was reluctant to give too much weapons and ammunition, hence the visit to north korea. Russia is not in a good situation and i think even a blind man should see it.
 
20 plus countries contributed arms and money, if it was one on one, Ukraine would have been kaputed. Now imagine NATO against Germany, can they last as long as Russia? The only noteworthy member in NATO is USA. The else is maya. That's why Putin insists the deal must be between US and Russia not EU not Ukraine.
Contributing 5% of resources is hardly NATO vs. Russia. Any way, lets assume you are right: your friend Putin knew that what it means to go against NATO. Its always going to be 20 against Russia so why are you all of a sudden feeling sorry.

Tomorrow if China attacks Taiwan, you are going to complain 'oh look, its China against 7 countries'. Your tone almost indicates 'its not fair'. This was a miscalulation by Putin and he has to see this through. This is not a kids play ground where you call 'oh thats just not fair'

No, i mean it doesnt matter what the west or ukraine do, they have already lost.
With two NATO country additions and turning St.Petersburg into a NATO lake, and Black Sea fleet neutered, the Russian Navy is now just a fishing fleet from Kamchatka. More losses like this will be welcomed

Russia should kick the shit out of Ukraine. Leave no stone unturned. No doubt we support Russia more than ever.
Thats just the signal Putin was waiting for to take his shirt of, get on a bear, and ride into the enemy capital.
 
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Contributing 5% of resources is hardly NATO vs. Russia. Any way, lets assume you are right: your friend Putin knew that what it means to go against NATO. Its always going to be 20 against Russia so why are you all of a sudden feeling sorry.

Tomorrow if China attacks Taiwan, you are going to complain 'oh look, its China against 7 countries'. Your tone almost indicates 'its not fair'. This was a miscalulation by Putin and he has to see this through. This is not a kids play ground where you call 'oh thats just not fair'


With two NATO country additions and turning St.Petersburg into a NATO lake, and Black Sea fleet neutered, the Russian Navy is now just a fishing fleet from Kamchatka. More losses like this will be welcomed


Thats just the signal Putin was waiting for to take his shirt of, get on a bear, and ride into the enemy capital.
Not complaining mate, i am just pointing out the fact that Russia is doing not bad going against NATO alone.
 
Pro-Ukraine US House speaker candidate drops out after Trump backlash

Tom Emmer failed to win broad support of the Republican Party before the House vote.

Tom Emmer failed to win over broad GOP support in a vote before the full House. Emmer decided to drop his bid under pressure from the far-right, Trumpist wing of the Republican Party, which refused to support him.


 
avdika is effectively surrounded, russians have full fire control on supply roads but they paid heavy prices, UAF is in defense on all fronts scrambling all possible reserves to plug the hole, with USA abandoning them in favor of their main project, their prospects are not bright.

meanwhile third most popular german politician founded political party which main political goal is abolishing sanctions to the russia, front behing ukraina is slowly bud surely crumbling in pieces.
 

For Ukraine, ‘defending’ means losing​

09/21/23

After 573 days of war, Washington still cannot decide if it really wants Ukraine to win.

“Defending” remains the watchword of the day. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin doubled-down on defense during the 15th Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting held at Ramstein air base in Germany on September 19, where he called upon allies to provide Ukraine with “additional air defense systems and interceptors” — specifically, Patriot, IRIS-T, HAWK, NASAMS, SAMP/T, and other air-defense systems.

He opened the meeting by stating, “Air defense is saving lives. So, I urge this group to continue to dig deep on ground-based air defense for Ukraine.” He also emphasized the necessity for air defense to “protect Ukraine’s critical infrastructure, including grain and energy supplies.”

While that is all true, no amount of air defense is going to displace the 200,000 troops in occupied Ukraine that Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley described in an interview with CNN on September 18. That will only be accomplished through offense.

Air defense weapons will not destroy or damage the Kerch Strait Bridge or any other bridge sustaining Russian forces on the Crimean Peninsula from Russia or Russian occupied southern Ukraine by ground transport or rail. Nor will they affect the sea ports and airfields. Russia’s ability to wage war will continue, unabated.

Nor, significantly, can they affect Russia’s third defensive line near the village of Robotyne in the Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Ukrainian Generals told the Guardian newspaper that “80 percent of Russia’s effort went into building its first and second lines,” yet Trent Maul, Director of Analysis for the Defense Intelligence Agency, cautions that the “bulk of Russia’s reinforcements remain at the third.”

Moreover, Moscow has had additional time to prepare hardened defensive positions and emplace anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, as it did along its first defensive line.

No wonder Milley referenced a “very high bar,” when warning that a Ukrainian victory will take a “very long time.” It is a sad irony that the Biden Administration has made that bar higher by failing to greenlight the weapons Ukraine needs for a decisive victory. But the irony seems lost on the outgoing chairman.

Although they are welcome, additional air defense systems are not the path to a Ukrainian victory. Rather, added precision deep strike capabilities are needed to render the Crimean Peninsula “untenable.” President Joe Biden should heed this very advice from his retired generals Jack Keane, David Petraeus and Ben Hodges.

It has been nearly two weeks since ABC News suggested that the Biden Administration was considering supplying Ukraine with the Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS. President Joe Biden, in his Tuesday address to the United Nations General Assembly, despite Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in attendance, made no reference to ATACMS. Instead, Biden reiterated his call to world leaders to stand firm against “naked aggression,” and once again “cast solidarity with Ukraine in its war with Russia as a necessary step to deter other would-be aggressors.”

Like Austin’s prepared comments in Ramstein, there was also no mention of the word “win.” This, despite a senior State Department official telling reporters on August 30 that, “It’s very important that Ukraine win this war. And by ‘win,’ I mean as President Biden said, Russians leave all of Ukraine.”

So what changed? Did Kim Jong Un’s trip to Russia and the possibility of a technology exchange enabling North Korean nuclear delivery capabilities affect the White House’s ATACMS decision-making calculus?

General George S. Patton said it best: “Nobody ever defended anything successfully. There is only attack and attack and attack some more.”

Together with the Ukrainian military’s current capabilities, these additional U.S. weapon systems and munitions, coupled with intelligence, can accelerate the liberation of Crimea and all of Ukraine.

Interdicting drones, ballistic missiles, and hypersonic missiles over the skies of Ukraine will not win the war. Austin and Milley know this. It is merely an extension of the attrition-based battle being waged on the ground, in the trenches — substituting soldiers for missiles, at an unsustainable cost.

What wins the war is to strike the launch sites beyond Ukraine’s borders; to destroy weapons systems that launch the drones and fire the missiles; to interdict munitions before they are fired; to destroy “third line” defensive fortifications before the lead elements of the assault force arrive.

The deep fight and interdiction of supply lines are what Ukraine so desperately needs to win this war.

“Air defense systems and interceptors” are a critical and a necessary component of the solution to defend the lives of innocent civilians, critical infrastructure, and ground forces. But they will not expedite the outcome of the war. Bringing the war to a conclusion sooner will do more to meet Austin’s objectives and save lives.

Austin correctly asserts that, “the more Russia prolongs its war, the more glaring its cruelty becomes. Russia’s assaults have increased far beyond the battlefield and inflicted untold human suffering.”

Together with Milley’s comment that “Ejecting Russian soldiers from the entirety of Ukraine is going to take a long time and will be a very significant effort over a considerable amount of time,” they serve to reinforce the necessity of giving Zelensky and his generals the weapons and munitions they need to win the war now — not to simply “ensure that Ukraine can deter future aggression and defend its sovereign territory.”

The words missing here are “urgency” and “win.” In one breath, Austin warns about the hazards of a prolonged war, but in the next he says, “So make no mistake: we will stand by the Ukrainian people for the long haul.”

Regrettably, there may not be a long haul for Ukraine. Support for the war is trending downward in the U.S. According to a CNN poll last month, 51 percent believe “the U.S. has done enough to help Ukraine in the fight against Russia.” When Russia first invaded in early 2022, the same poll showed 62 percent wanting the U.S. to do more for Ukraine.

A former Biden Administration official told NBC News that “Biden understands that time is short. I don’t think he can sustain the level of funding for much longer. That’s why you’re seeing Zelensky [coming to] the White House. It’s all about keeping the pressure up…There’s not a blank check here.”


 
So the US and its poodles bend over backwards to support Ukraine against an illegal invasion, but can't do the same for Palestine? In fact, they fully sponsor and encourage Israel to "have the right to defend itself by any means" to slaughter civilians. Hmmm...I wonder what's the difference between Ukrainians and Palestinians? 🤔 and you wonder why the US and its poodles are so hated in most of the world?!
 
Not a single NATO soldier is in Ukraine. By your logic the russians fare great against China, too because there is not a single Pla soldier in Ukraine.
Well NATO doesn't need to be there. The Ukrainians are the cannon fodders probably better than the woke Soldiers from NATO, the difference is funding and weapons. How long do you think Kyiv can last without US funding?
 
Well NATO doesn't need to be there. The Ukrainians are the cannon fodders probably better than the woke Soldiers from NATO, the difference is funding and weapons. How long do you think Kyiv can last without US funding?
How long can Russia run this war if they can’t sell oil and gas? What you think?
By your logic Chinese were cannon foods too when Japan invaded China. Man, your arguments are bad as if coming from brainless zombie.
 
So the US and its poodles bend over backwards to support Ukraine against an illegal invasion, but can't do the same for Palestine? In fact, they fully sponsor and encourage Israel to "have the right to defend itself by any means" to slaughter civilians. Hmmm...I wonder what's the difference between Ukrainians and Palestinians? 🤔 and you wonder why the US and its poodles are so hated in most of the world?!
Scrolled through some of your post from last year. You didnt shed a tear for Ukraine, so what is the difference between ukrainians and palestinians?
I really liked this one from you: "Doesn't bother me, as long as the "master race" are slaughtering each other, who cares".
 
Well NATO doesn't need to be there. The Ukrainians are the cannon fodders probably better than the woke Soldiers from NATO, the difference is funding and weapons. How long do you think Kyiv can last without US funding?
The real question is, can Russia outlast the West funding Ukraine? Is Russia an economy the size of Europe, North America, Australia and to some degree South Korea and Japan? No its not. Norway alone could probably fund the entire ukrainian defence by itself if they decided to do it.
 
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