Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[jhungary]

Perhaps u are not aware of the fall out of nuclear attack. U perhaps think a nuke attack is a destruction of a country , a tactical nuke may have an impact on around d 3-5 sq meter not more than that .

Dude, even a Vietnam era 155 shell Nuclear Artillery have effect a lot more than 3 to 5 sq meters (that's smaller than a house) effect. The smallest Nuclear Artillery shell Russia have (or had) is 3BV3 which uses 152mm warhead, that artillery shell is 1kt, it would have 500 meters ionised radiation of 1000 Rad (Typical Fatal Dosage), and that's the smallest nuclear artillery shell they had. The other are 3BV1, 3BV2 and 3BV4, which based on 204 and 300mm shell.

Russia don't have Nuclear Artillery Shell (At least they claim), all they have for tactical usage are either kiloton munition (eg Dirty Bomb) or missile up to 10 kilotons

Sub Kiloton munition did exist (at least with US) but those aren't for Tactical Purpose, it's more like Surgical Assassination type Direct Action Mission (Like Airdrop JDAM or Drone Strike) but those weapons still would have greater effect range than 3 to 5 sq. meters. It would have been able to take out an entire block (so at least 100 sq. meters) Even if such weapon with 3 to 5 sq meters range exist, you would have been better off stick with Thermobaric Weapon or even dumb bomb have more AOE than that.

Talk about not aware of the fallout......

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564319757687554048

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564323572662915072

 

[Han Patriot]

here is an explanation to those interested as to why operators don't simply stop producing oil/gas when they deplete storage and can't sell the oil/gas in reserves quickly enough to make room for oil/gas being extracted from production wells.
There is no doubt that the Russians can't find alternate buyers for the gas they once piped to Europe via Nordstream. The Chinese pipelines can't cope with the volumes and the Russians don't have enough LNG terminals or LNG carriers to ship the gas to interested parties.

I think it's time to put the silly uninformed notions of Mr Han to bed.

The temporary shutting in of wells is the one thing that oil companies are trying to avoid at all costs. That’s because restarting production is expensive and wells are not guaranteed to return to their flow rate. The doubts are so great that some experts wonder whether the current round of shut downs, far from preserving the resource, won’t accelerate oil depletion instead. Some Russian engineers are even considering burning excess oil, rather than downsizing production. Shutting Down Oil Wells, a Risky and Expensive Option The temporary shutting in of wells is the one thing that oil companies are trying to avoid at all costs. That's because restarting production is expensive www.resilience.org

Considering? So are they burning it? Dude, oil is money and easily transportable this article sounds like propaganda to give some copium to the freezing European balls.

My friend, a LNG terminal needs to be somewhat close to the gas fields, you don't fcking pipe gas to Vladisvostok and liquefy it right? At least you have some fundamental undestaidng of LNG.

If they don't sell gas to Germany then just don't sell it. In accounting terms you might have lost sale, but lost sale does not equals loss in real economics, it's just delayed profit. Gas still stays in the ground. The only loss I can see is restarting cost and some equipment depreciation. But what has an LNG plant flaring for to do with pipeline supply to Europe. It's not as if they burn gas they can't sell to Europe. They are having commissioning upsets which has nothing to do with the European pipeline. For the nth fcking time, YOU CAN ISOLATE GAS SUPPLY WITH JUST A VALVE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FCKING FLARE It. You know what is a Christmas's tree right? Faster go Google. Lolol

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564398046431133696

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564319757687554048

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564323572662915072

Fake news.

 

[dbc]

For the nth fcking time, YOU CAN ISOLATE GAS SUPPLY WITH JUST A VALVE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FCKING FLARE It. You know what is a Christmas's tree right? Faster go Google. Lolol

You are back for some more punishment. You must be a masochist use google if you don't know what it means. You can shut in a well using the the shut off value on the Christmas tree for a week before you begin to damage the formation permanently. Pressure builds in the formation and can increase at rate of up to 1,000 psi per hour at the well head, most Christmas trees are rated for max 15,000 psi. If you shut in production for longer you will not only damage the formation but also permanently damage the down hole assembly and equipment. And if the wellhead is on a pad you will damage other wells in the area.

To stop production for longer than a week or two with any hope of recovery at prior peak production rates in the future you need to pump mud to stabilize pressure in the formation and then plug and abandon.

 

[Han Patriot]

You are back for some more punishment. You must be a masochist use google if you don't know what it means. You can shut in a well using the the shut off value on the Christmas tree for a week before you begin to damage the formation permanently. Pressure builds in the formation and can increase at rate of up to 1,000 psi per hour at the well head, most Christmas trees are rated for max 15,000 psi. If you shut in production for longer you will not only damage the formation but also permanently damage the down hole assembly and equipment. And if the wellhead is on a pad you will damage other wells in the area.

To stop production for longer than a week or two with any hope of recovery at prior peak production rates in the future you need to pump mud to stabilize pressure in the formation and then plug and abandon.

Let us use some common sense here. A well has x amount of pressure. Where is you pressure build up coming from? If this was the case, we would be extracting every last drop of oil in a well. Pressure decreases overtime in a well. It doesn't increase unless there is a seismic activity or maybe there is some hidden pocket of gas/oil intrusion genius.

If your logic is true, we wouldn't need gas injection or water injection since pressure will always build up. A Christmas tree if properly designed to their rated pressure can last pretty long, that's how you decommission oil and gas field. You plug it. By your logic all the oil and gas fields plugs will just explode with their 'pressure build up'. Haahhahahahahahahaahah. From someone who doesn't know what sweet gas is, you are pretty funny.

Omg, I just found a genius here.

A properly cemented well will not collapse unless there is water intrusion or other operational fck ups. In Chinese, there is a saying, its better to teach idiots than half idiots.

Are you by any chance mistaking it for oil and gas blow outs? Lolololol lol.

 

[dbc]

Let us use some common sense here. A well has x amount of pressure. Where is you pressure build up coming from? If this was the case, we would be extracting every last drop of oil in a well. Pressure decreases overtime in a well. It doesn't increase unless there is a seismic activity or maybe there is some hidden pocket of gas/oil intrusion genius.

If your logic is true, we wouldn't need gas injection or water injection since pressure will always build up. A Christmas tree if properly designed to their rated pressure can last pretty long, that's how you decommission oil and gas field. You plug it. By your logic all the oil and gas fields plugs will just explode with their 'pressure build up'. Haahhahahahahahahaahah. From someone who doesn't know what sweet gas is, you are pretty funny.

Omg, I just found a genius here.

A properly cemented well will not collapse unless there is water intrusion or other operational fck ups. In Chinese, there is a saying, its better to teach idiots than half idiots.

Are you mistaking oil and gas blow out? Lolololol lol.

water is injected into declining wells to arrest declining output as the formation is depleted over many years of production. Injecting water increases pressure in the reservoir genius and you still can't simply shut off the value to stop production for extended duration. In fact water injection makes the corrosion problem from shut in worse.

did I say blowout silly man? I said damage.
During shut in fluids sit stagnant down hole causing corrosion from acid and bacteria build up. This damages downhole pumps, rods and tubing.

Now please stop quoting me, I have better things to do then feed your masochistic needs.

 

[aviator_fan]

I meant to type fiend. Hahahha. So how is Germany faring now with 10% gas from Russia? How are the fish and chip shops doing in UK? What about the fertilizer prices? Russia unlike Europe produces real surplus resources. US has gas but consumes alot as well, so Russia is one of the few resource surplus nations on earth.

Look at what US is trying to do now, an Asian NATO. Japan and Korea are even lower than UK on the poodle scale, they are literally occupied. No Korean President has had the gall to ask Us troops to leave. They are there to 'protect' them. Lolololol. As if 30k soldiers are gonna make a difference. Look at Japan.... Rich but pathetic. Rich in what sense exactly, when the gas shuts, all the paper money on earth can't buy you heat. When the grain stops, you can't eat papers. People just don't undestand money is not wealth. Money is a means of exchange, you need to have something for it to exchange to have value. And if all teh resource and goods provider start to boycott dollars, its as good as toilet paper. The reason why people are using it is because of legacy issues. US still has some legacy technology and the institutions for trade. The dumbest thing to do is sanctioning Russia, it is actually creating an incentive for people to diversify into an alternative trading system. Russia has the energy and raw materials, China has the productive power. You see where I am going here. I would dare say China has the most complete range of technologies, not the most advanced but the most complete.

Yes 'mini Mr. Xi' you are the brains and everybody is wrong. You are incomprehensible. It makes no sense what you are saying. This is a forum where the idea is to exchange views. What makes you think by your childish logic you will change anybody's mind. I may set the record straight or state some facts, but the intent is not to have you change your mind.

You on the other hand thinks the person in a declining population whose every use of any tech (chips from Korean and Taiwanese companies, entertainment from elsewhere) thinks by screaming , shouting , screaming you will get your point across.


I think you have a bit of an inferiority complex that you compensate for by claiming you know everything (by doing a bit of google search) and then use some communist doctrine to project out. and in the process of the laughing stock. Outside of a few countries with some technical skills like Pakistan, your orbit is most countries in Africa and may be the islands in Pacific . You feel that you don't have a Korea, Japan, or a Finland in your orbit and now world has gifted you Russia. Even Vietnam is not under your umbrella. Russia is the best you can do so you have to vent on Korea/Japan/Australia as a result even though legally they are not part of NATO.

Russia is losing its smartest. They are not moving to China, they are moving to other countries. And I have news for you, the world's green energy transition has begun. So provided Sir Putin does not start a nuclear war, the best gift he gave to the planet was to accelerate the transition. Then which ever country you are in and the Russians can exchange all your resources among each other and pollute yourselves.

Why are the westerners and their chamchas here constantly derailing the thread? Can u guys take ur dumb and useless arguments somewhere else a let this thread be about the war news and development. I have to go through tons of ur crap to find an update. @mods plz ban those who r not contributing with news and just here to cheerlead.

 

[aviator_fan]

Why are the westerners and their chamchas here constantly derailing the thread? Can u guys take ur dumb and useless arguments somewhere else a let this thread be about the war news and development. I have to go through tons of ur crap to find an update. @mods plz ban those who r not contributing with news and just here to cheerlead.

For the same reason I have to scroll through forum postings on Bangladesh textiles when the name of this forum is Pakistan Defence. Thats because purpose of a forum is to exchange thoughts and ideas and opinions. For those that are chamchas on either side get a view of what the contrary view is. Something only a global forum like this can do since it is not possible to find people next door that will be supportive of the other side in the war.
If you are implying that this forum should be only pro-Russia, then why don't you consider joining the Russian military twitter handle. You will get exactly what you want to see there. Or start a thread on Ukraine that says 'Putin is great, nobody join with a different view on the war'. And suggest to western chamchas to start one 'Putin is bad, nobody join with a different view on the war'

 

[Han Patriot]

water is injected into declining wells to arrest declining output as the formation is depleted over many years of production. Injecting water increases pressure in the reservoir genius and you still can't simply shut off the value to stop production for extended duration. In fact water injection makes the corrosion problem from shut in worse.

did I say blowout silly man? I said damage.
During shut in fluids sit stagnant down hole causing corrosion from acid and bacteria build up. This damages downhole pumps, rods and tubing.

Now please stop quoting me, I have better things to do then feed your masochistic needs.

Until now you don't know what is sweet gas, you don't know the difference between blowout preventer and Christmas tree and smarty pants can't even explain to me how pressure is built up in a producing well. Don't start talking to me about water injection, we normally mix it with chemical injection, it's to prevent biological infestation. You mean to tell me you don't know that? Hahahahaha.

And btw that's not just corrosion but fouling. Explain to me how does water corrode components that are design to MR175 sulphuric acid corrosion. Do you know what materials we are talking about? Fck, do you really copy paste from somewhere or you must be a trainee engineer or something. Water injection is using produced water nromally, how does putting in water from the same well you took out increase corrosion when there are chemical inhibitors . I feel like I am talking to a real case idiot here. If I know your name I will make sure my company don't employ you. Btw injection systems are not just used in 'depleted' fields, it's used on producing fields as well to maintain stable pressure. So called 'depleted' fields are normally still full of oil up to 70% left, what is depleted is pressure. When the cost of EOR is more than the oil recoverable, the field becomes depleted even when there is still oil. In the end the cost of pumping in pressure is not worth the oil they can recover,unless of course oil price increases.

Pressure build up happens during drilling, not from stably producing Wells you know the process right? . The pressure on that well is fixed, it doesn't increase suddenly unless there is an external stimuli. During drilling you are slowly building up the pressure as you go deeper, hence a sudden gush of high pressure gas pockets can cause a BLOW OUT. understand dumbfvk! So fckers telling me Russia needs to flare a LNG plant to prevent gas field blow out is really idiotic beyond imagination.

 

[Viet]

You accused me of believing in Russian propaganda, but have you ever thought that maybe you were fed half truths by the msm to justify the war! Come on both Russia and the West are guilty of bullshit propaganda. Remember the Ghost of Kiev? Lololol. The key is use some critical thinking to know the truth and truth is normally half way in between.

Let us dissect your argument, firstly do we know how long it has been flaming, what was being flamed? Was it offspec gas? FFS, we need specialised metering skids and gas spectrometers to know the quality of the gas and the amount of gas. But msm can just guesstimate by looking at the flame from space?

That's what I had been telling you, NOBODY SELLS LNG IN A PIPELINE BECAUSE ITS EXPENSIVE. You need to insulate the pipes and use very expensive alloy for the pipes. Therefore what has a LNG plant flaring got to do with pipeline supply to Germany?

For the nth fcking time, you just fcking close a few valves, you don't have to burn it if you don't want to sell it. Can you understand simple science? You are not selling tacos here. Tacos can go bad if you don't sell it. Gas doesn't go bad, you fcking close the valves and tahts it.

Natural gas is valuable. Every component of it is worth. I don’t need to push it thru spectrometer then flush it down the toilet. The Russians flare it because they are incompetent and ignorant. There is no other explanation. They can invade a country but can’t stop flaring gas, can’t stop this environment disaster? Rediculous.

 

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Ukrainian Assassin Who Bombed Russian Darya Dugina, Found STABBED TO DEATH​

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The female member of the Ukrainian National Guard, Natalya Vovka, who entered Russia on July 23 and moved into the same building as Darya Dugina, stalked Darya, and planted a bomb to murder Darya by blowing up the car she was driving, has been found stabbed to death in a hotel in Austria.
Natalya Vovka was reportedly found with seventeen (17) stab wounds, laying dead in a hotel room in Austria.
Dead men (or women) tell no tales.
Looks as though Ukraine is tying-up "loose ends" by assassinating the Assassin. Or perhaps Russia got even?

 

[Viet]

Ukraine hunting traitors

Olexij Kowaljow, an Ukraine politician who defected to Russia and worked with occupation army in southern Ukraine, is found shot dead in his house. He survived the first assassination attempt. Also, his girl friend was killed.

Gegen Olexij Kowaljow hatte die ukrainische Justiz wegen Hochverrat ermittelt.

 

[Soldier35]

Archival footage of the aviation of Ukraine. Before the encirclement, several Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopters managed to deliver ammunition and food to Azovstal in Mariupol. Some of the helicopters were later shot down.

 

[Han Patriot]

Yes 'mini Mr. Xi' you are the brains and everybody is wrong. You are incomprehensible. It makes no sense what you are saying. This is a forum where the idea is to exchange views. What makes you think by your childish logic you will change anybody's mind. I may set the record straight or state some facts, but the intent is not to have you change your mind.

You on the other hand thinks the person in a declining population whose every use of any tech (chips from Korean and Taiwanese companies, entertainment from elsewhere) thinks by screaming , shouting , screaming you will get your point across.


I think you have a bit of an inferiority complex that you compensate for by claiming you know everything (by doing a bit of google search) and then use some communist doctrine to project out. and in the process of the laughing stock. Outside of a few countries with some technical skills like Pakistan, your orbit is most countries in Africa and may be the islands in Pacific . You feel that you don't have a Korea, Japan, or a Finland in your orbit and now world has gifted you Russia. Even Vietnam is not under your umbrella. Russia is the best you can do so you have to vent on Korea/Japan/Australia as a result even though legally they are not part of NATO.

Russia is losing its smartest. They are not moving to China, they are moving to other countries. And I have news for you, the world's green energy transition has begun. So provided Sir Putin does not start a nuclear war, the best gift he gave to the planet was to accelerate the transition. Then which ever country you are in and the Russians can exchange all your resources among each other and pollute yourselves.

Chill down hero. I am just trying to educate idiots here, I am actually not screaming. Whether China is good or bad, that's another topic, the point here is Russia is not in such a bad shape like what the msm describe. I personally think. It's good for them, they will be finally free and independent. New industries will be created, new jobs etc. With Chinese technology and productive powers, we can make them powerful.