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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

What other missile attack occurred during his visit to Kiev?
could be ukrainian, could be russian. i'm not interested in making assumptions without proof. just like there is no proof that ukrainian air defenses shot anything down.
 
Spot on. Do we really think Moscow would strike close to where one of his BRICS allies is holding a meeting? It defies logic and stinks of the typical sympathy garnering western media BS. I certainly don't buy it.
Nato bootlickers believe this within milliseconds just like they believed the BS Ghost of Kiev, NordStream, Dam Busted, Bucha Massacre etc.. "official stories".

Bucha Massacre is well-documented. Details are in the repository thread.

The dam that was destroyed was under Russian watch and control.

Russian forces were also shelling locations that were facing flooding.






Innocent Russians...
 
It's interesting seeing so many Pakistanis in this thread taking strong sides in this conflict, when it has very little to do with them. Pakistan has been screwed over by the US multiple times, but yet here they are cheering them on as the US does what it does best around the world. I wonder how they would feel if the US used Pakistanis as cannon fodder ...oh wait. And siding with a deranged megalomaniac like Putin is no different. A nation that will never learn.
you are assuming that implying a certain military doctrine is going to win implies heartened and emotional support for the side. Most (myself included) would have hoped this never began as a world was more balanced by the implied threat of Russia (even though it was hollow from the inside). This effort has made that hollowness obvious .

Many are here to debate the military aspects of what is going on and the geopolitical lies posted. I personally am on the side of Ukrainians because of how the USSR ended up on Pkaistan’s doorstep and could have ended up in Pakistan and even though it withdrew, permanently changed the dynamic of Pakistan with millions of refugees, a gun culture , lawlessness, and finally leading to American invasion of Afghanistan, run this time from Pakistan’s soil.
 
NATO is demanding that African Peace Mission to declare Russia as "aggressor" as part of "Just" solution. In other words, if you don't declare Russia as aggressor, we will not support the outcome of your peace mission. Basically, a third-party that is not Russia and Ukraine is deciding what the outcome of the peace negotiation will be. It is obvious, this is NATO's war.

 
Bucha Massacre is well-documented. Details are in the repository thread.

The dam that was destroyed was under Russian watch and control.

Russian forces were also shelling locations that were facing flooding.
interestingly the bridge that was blown last year also was under Russian watch and control
it must have been the work of evil Russians
 
interestingly the bridge that was blown last year also was under Russian watch and control
it must have been the work of evil Russians
Interesting how far beyond reason you are ready to go. You obviously had nothing to counter his argument but being pro russian.
 

The Intensity Of The Strikes Of The Ukrainian Forces Is Increasing. Military Summary For 2023.06.17

 
NATO is demanding that African Peace Mission to declare Russia as "aggressor" as part of "Just" solution. In other words, if you don't declare Russia as aggressor, we will not support the outcome of your peace mission. Basically, a third-party that is not Russia and Ukraine is deciding what the outcome of the peace negotiation will be. It is obvious, this is NATO's war.


How else would one define a party that military invades and annexes its neighbour land??

Its pretty black and white in this case.

And dont give me “but the children in donbass” bullshit. both sides had casualties there and the latter years saw almost no civilian dead.
 
interestingly the bridge that was blown last year also was under Russian watch and control
it must have been the work of evil Russians

Just keep trying to defend fascism in the 20th century. Karma will hit the Iranian regime and its sycophants in the end.



The dam:
Under watch and full control of russia.

Very sturdy so only a massive wave of attacks or heavy explosive charges would work. Russia had it under watch but showed nothing regarding any attacks….Russia on other hand had all opportunity and time for sabotage on this level. Even threatened that they mined it before…

then we have benefit and motives.

Blowing up the dam cost ukraine hundreds of billions in damages to its agricultural heartland. Ukraine is a competitor in this vs Russia.
Blowing up the dam delays any offensive risk on that front for months. Just as the offensive had started.

From 2014 till 2022 lacking a canal water supply to crimea was a minor annoyance at most for russia.

This canal could also be blocked easily anyway and with no monetary damages once ukraine would advance a little on that front.

Even historically. Russia did not shy away of blowing large dams even if it drowned thousands of its own troops…

Interesting how far beyond reason you are ready to go. You obviously had nothing to counter his argument but being pro russian.
Its just sad how far the Iranian pariah state and its supporters have fallen


The western support for Iraq vs Iran was disgusting. However they keep clinging to that (40 years ago) as an excuse to forego any morality and steep deep into terrorism and religious fascism.

Now eating its young
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2022/oct/07/women-killed-or-detained-iran’s-protests

And cheering its shahed terror bombings on ukranian civilians. As long as it somehow inconveniates USA.

Lets hope the younger generation finally breaks their shackles.
 
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Interesting how far beyond reason you are ready to go. You obviously had nothing to counter his argument but being pro russian.
well i saw no argument and show flaw of that logic.
you just can't see it

Blowing up the dam cost ukraine hundreds of billions in damages to its agricultural heartland. Ukraine is a competitor in this vs Russia.
which is under control of Russia or not usable because of war

This canal could also be blocked easily anyway and with no monetary damages once ukraine would advance a little on that front.
once they advance, that is spending the money you don't have
 
The western support for Iraq vs Iran was disgusting. However they keep clinging to that (40 years ago) as an excuse to forego any morality and steep deep into terrorism and religious fascism.
you guys problem , everything west do must be good , anything east do must be bad . intrestingly its western armies that still occupy part of eastern countries not the other way around , i see no condemnation from you guys

And cheering its shahed terror bombings on ukranian civilians. As long as it somehow inconveniates USA.
double use infrastructuren whathitcivillians is actually the air defence , now go and draw somo more picture about the number of intercepting

Now eating its young
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2022/oct/07/women-killed-or-detained-iran’s-protests
commpletely irrelevant and oftopic if you are intrested discussing itgo to one of the several relevant thread on this forum about his and there are many who are interested to discus it with you
 
NATO is demanding that African Peace Mission to declare Russia as "aggressor" as part of "Just" solution. In other words, if you don't declare Russia as aggressor, we will not support the outcome of your peace mission. Basically, a third-party that is not Russia and Ukraine is deciding what the outcome of the peace negotiation will be. It is obvious, this is NATO's war.

Russia demands Ukraine to accept occupation before any peace talks of negotiations. So what’s the point of talks and negotiations?

No that’s not NATO war.

That’s a total war.

Leopards 2 on the front

A Leopard 2 battle tank near the front lines in Ukraine

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A Leopard 2 battle tank near the front lines in Ukraine

Foto: Maxim Dondyuk / DER SPIEGEL
 

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