Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[ZeGerman]

Well, the thing is that there was Minsk I and Minsk II. And both were signed by France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine. And both let the Donbas within Ukraine. The only condition was: Ukraine had to stop bombing and killing people in Donbas. But Ukraine didnt stop.

Only condition?
What a distortion.
The republics started an offensive shortly after minsk 1 was signed, kept attacking debaltseve after minsk 2.

Meanwhile we know through statements from Merkel and Hollande some weeks ago, that it was never meant to implement Minsk I and Minsk II by the west and Ukraine. Merkel (also Hollande) said: Minsk-treaty was only to get more time to arm Ukraine for a war against Russia. Let that sink in.

Again distortion.
To give ukraine time. To deter another russian attack or be able to defend itself.

Both knew that Putin was arms deep in the behind of the seperatists. Sending more heavy weapons in was another breach and showed bad intent.

So Ukraine bomb on and kill on people in Donbas regardles of the signed treaties. With million refugees fled to Russia. To stop the killings Russia then marched in to end this Genocide.

The casualties according to UN were pretty evenly spread and mostly collateral damage caused.
So no “genocide” and not one sided.

If you want to see true ethnic cleansing look at todays russian invasion.

So all other states who were involved at that time - France, Germany, Ukraine, England, USA - shit and piss on the killed in Donbas.

Dont ever tell me something about "moral high ground" again.

You have none….
Just distorting and twisting the truth to try to justify Putins war.
Disgusting.

 

[kingQamaR]

Well, the thing is that there was Minsk I and Minsk II. And both were signed by France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine. And both let the Donbas within Ukraine. The only condition was: Ukraine had to stop bombing and killing people in Donbas. But Ukraine didnt stop.

Meanwhile we know through statements from Merkel and Hollande some weeks ago, that it was never meant to implement Minsk I and Minsk II by the west and Ukraine. Merkel (also Hollande) said: Minsk-treaty was only to get more time to arm Ukraine for a war against Russia. Let that sink in.

So Ukraine bomb on and kill on people in Donbas regardles of the signed treaties. With million refugees fled to Russia. To stop the killings Russia then marched in to end this Genocide.

So all other states who were involved at that time - France, Germany, Ukraine, England, USA - shit and piss on the killed in Donbas.

Dont ever tell me something about "moral high ground" again.

What does the Russian military invasion -have to do with Minsk agreement? If i remember correctly Russians had a problem with Nato and wanted security guarantees, there was an ultimatum never to accept Ukraine, and to withdraw from Eastern Europe and all that none sense . And now it’s suddenly about separatists in the East of Ukraine. Minsk was primarily about a ceasefire and pulling troops back , and the Russians are now talking about implementing it, having brought a large army in to Ukraine.

 

[Ich]

Only condition?
What a distortion.
The republics started an offensive shortly after minsk 1 was signed, kept attacking debaltseve after minsk 2.

Again distortion.
To give ukraine time. To deter another russian attack or be able to defend itself.

Both knew that Putin was arms deep in the behind of the seperatists. Sending more heavy weapons in was another breach and showed bad intent.

The casualties according to UN were pretty evenly spread and mostly collateral damage caused.
So no “genocide” and not one sided.

If you want to see true ethnic cleansing look at todays russian invasion.

You have none….
Just distorting and twisting the truth to try to justify Putins war.
Disgusting.

So you want to say that Merkel, Hollande, Nuland and also the Biden Team lied?

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616162993460363272

 

[Ali_Baba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616162993460363272

this does suggest that Ukraine is getting close to deploying her own suicide drones that could soon be wizzing around Moscow and Russia is scared of that fact…

 

[Mohsin A]

The second Ukraine attempts to attack Moscow is the second Ukraine will get decimated with the full force of the Russian armed forces. I think we all know that. The clown of Kiev is leading his country on a path of no return from catastrophe. I really do feel for the civilians as their leadership has refused to come to the negotiation table on the orders of the West.
Won't be long before the next wave of Russian Mobi's enter the battlefield to finish obtaining the whole of the Donbass.
If Ukraine wishes to move up the escalation ladder, then by all means do.....but don't cry when Moscow retaliates with x100 strategic bomber runs, cruise missiles and full scale war.
The brass necked NATO happy clappers on here seem to have no concern that the more this situation escalates, the closer we get to WW3. And remember, Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and on the current trajectory, we're heading for mutually assured destruction. Let's hope that sane minds prevail and that a negotiated ceasefire is settled.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616120308276117514

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615978882544328705

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616206817196970006

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[Ich]

...Minsk was primarily about a ceasefire and pulling troops back...

Yes, but Ukraine still bombed and killed people in Donbas after signing the Minsk-treaties.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616128409633185793

 

[ZeGerman]

So you want to say that Merkel, Hollande, Nuland and also the Biden Team lied?

https://tass.com/world/1547141/amp

Merkel wanted to give ukraine time to get stronger…clearly so that Putin cannot erase it from the map with his next “green men” invasion.

You distort that to “war and genocide against russia/donnass”, which again…is far from the truth as UN figures of casualties showed (infractions from both sides, and not nearly high enough or structural enough for “genocide”).

Stop playing with words to justify Putins war of agression.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-11/1 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Your in a sad little club that can hardly spell “morality”.

 

[F-22Raptor]

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[Ich]

The second Ukraine attempts to attack Moscow is the second Ukraine will get decimated with the full force of the Russian armed forces. I think we all know that. The clown of Kiev is leading his country on a path of no return from catastrophe. I really do feel for the civilians as their leadership has refused to come to the negotiation table on the orders of the West.
Won't be long before the next wave of Russian Mobi's enter the battlefield to finish obtaining the whole of the Donbass.
If Ukraine wishes to move up the escalation ladder, then by all means do.....but don't cry when Moscow retaliates with x100 strategic bomber runs, cruise missiles and full scale war.
The brass necked NATO happy clappers on here seem to have no concern that the more this situation escalates, the closer we get to WW3. And remember, Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and on the current trajectory, we're heading for mutually assured destruction. Let's hope that sane minds prevail and that a negotiated ceasefire is settled.

About a half year ago i wrote to the russian embassy that please fire the first nuclear bomb on Berlin. I would be dead, but all the arseholes here too

Merkel wanted to give ukraine time to get stronger…clearly so that Putin cannot erase it from the map with his next “green men” invasion.

And that was the reason that Minsk I and II was initiated from Russia? Ah, wait! Russia wanted ceasefire and stop bombing and killing? Something doesnt add up in your storry...

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615970098308579329

 

[F-22Raptor]

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