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Pakistan should capitalize by moving fast when iron is hot.
You can check with Russians if they are interested.
Regarding backstabbing,you can buy things from your friend even if they don't meet your requirements but we will buy only things which meet our requirements.

It is one thing to buy from a friend, but it is an entirely different thing to abuse your friend and downplay his capabilities. Especially if you as a beneficiary invest and cooperate in the entire project.

India should view this entire rapprochement with ease. This rapprochement between Russia and Pakistan is not aimed against anyone.
 
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It is one thing to buy from a friend, but it is an entirely different thing to abuse your friend and downplay his capabilities.
No,we still buy stuff from Russia which meet our requirements.when they don't meet our requirements we buy from someone else who has ,what's so hard to understand
 
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No,we still buy stuff from Russia which meet our requirements.when they don't meet our requirements we buy from someone else who has ,what's so hard to understand

You started a joint venture and copped out at the end. You also humiliated and took a swipe at the abilities of your old and trusted ally Russia. It is indeed your choice to cop out, but you should accept the consequences. It puts a serious question mark on India's loyalty towards its friends.
 
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You started a joint venture and copped out at the end. You also humiliated and took a swipe at the abilities of your old and trusted ally Russia. It is indeed your choice to cop out, but you should accept the consequences.
Our relationship is deep rooted and not based on one or two projects .
We agreed on developing a project together and we out our money in it and if it's not up to the mark as planned,is it not wise to pull out.
You will not see a single official statement from India where we would have humiliated Russia .rest assured Russia will be standing next to us when we need them.
 
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USA does it openly, Pakistan talks in two voices... Take a stand and fight it out, you will be respected. Now everyone see you ppl in bad light... You ppl are fighters, fight it out, take stand and never bow. India is considered soft, even we take stand and fight for it, We stood tall, even countries which are hostile in past are ready to work with us now... US and China are examples.

Welcome back Multi-ID troll kalakaar, etc.
 
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You started a joint venture and copped out at the end. You also humiliated and took a swipe at the abilities of your old and trusted ally Russia. It is indeed your choice to cop out, but you should accept the consequences. It puts a serious question mark on India's loyalty towards its friends.
We don't believe in loyalty when dealing for our country.

All this discussion and supne based on an opinion article? LoL
Go step by step guys. Get the su35 first, and then su57.

Their is third party very much worried for russia .
 
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Nop..
Putin is India's Loyal wife and so are other Russians from Soviet era. They will never betray their Husband.
Russia has bondage type obsessive relatiosn with India .
In fact Pakistan should not allow itself to be used for the "Lovers game" between India and Russia in which obsessive wife Russia uses Pakistan to make India jealous and when gets Indian attention, chucks Pakistan in the bin.
 
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Have to laugh at everyone on these forums none of you know what foreign strategy means, China's crapppy bullshit, fake friendship is just that, they sell you junk and give you massive loans which you have no way of paying back and put your country in trillions of $$$ of debt and yet Pakistanis on this forum lick the Chinese assholes ROFLMAO.
 
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You started a joint venture and copped out at the end. You also humiliated and took a swipe at the abilities of your old and trusted ally Russia. It is indeed your choice to cop out, but you should accept the consequences. It puts a serious question mark on India's loyalty towards its friends.
SU57 falls short of India's expectation, so they copped out. this is business. you dont do business for friendship, do you?

Nop..
Putin is India's Loyal wife and so are other Russians from Soviet era. They will never betray their Husband.
Russia has bondage type obsessive relatiosn with India .
In fact Pakistan should not allow itself to be used for the "Lovers game" between India and Russia in which obsessive wife Russia uses Pakistan to make India jealous and when gets Indian attention, chucks Pakistan in the bin.
india is Russia's tool to check China at the south west. you may ditch your dog, but will never abandon it. those Pakistani called Russians brotherhood shall get your mind straight. business is just business, not brothers.

Russians may sell S400 to Pakistan because it's a defensive platform. As to Su35, it depends on India's further movement with USA.

It's more like a bluff than real actions. Russia can't loose India.they were in relations for 60 years.

Pakistan can't count on Russia to take on India, that's basic knowledge. But you can take advantage of their contradictions to get some goodies.

In the dictionary of Russians, there is no word called brotherhood.

Randomly ask some Turkish or Chinese in this forum, whether they trust Russia or not.

That's what we learnt in our relationship with USA and Soviet in the 1970s and 1980s. This world is too damn cruel.

All this discussion and supne based on an opinion article? LoL
Go step by step guys. Get the su35 first, and then su57.
If you keep giving those big contracts to USA and France, polar bear will sell Su35 to Pakistan. You shall get your self mentally prepared.

The pull out of India in Su57 had bankrupted the project, that sure will influence your relationship in certain extent.

Have to laugh at everyone on these forums none of you know what foreign strategy means, China's crapppy bullshit, fake friendship is just that, they sell you junk and give you massive loans which you have no way of paying back and put your country in trillions of $$$ of debt and yet Pakistanis on this forum lick the Chinese assholes ROFLMAO.
It's no wrong to build necessary infrastructure if one wanna develop economy. No pay no gain. As to the debt Pakistan has with China, it's not your concern. They can pay it back at the rythem they are comfortable with. We are not in a hurry at all.

No pressure, no growth.

And sure China will do Pakistan a favour when they have to pay back IMF fund through AIIB or other channels.

Our relationship is deep rooted and not based on one or two projects .
We agreed on developing a project together and we out our money in it and if it's not up to the mark as planned,is it not wise to pull out.
You will not see a single official statement from India where we would have humiliated Russia .rest assured Russia will be standing next to us when we need them.
Where is your dear Russia when your *** was kicked in 1962.

Maybe some military aid and lip service.

When China is gonna beat someone, others will stand there and just look.

I hope you realize you can't sacrifice relationship with China for flattering others. That brings you no benefits.
 
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SU57 falls short of India's expectation, so they copped out. this is business. you dont do business for friendship, do you?

india is Russia's tool to check China at the south west. you may ditch your dog, but will never abandon it. those Pakistani called Russians brotherhood shall get your mind straight. business is just business, not brothers.

Russians may sell S400 to Pakistan because it's a defensive platform. As to Su35, it depends on India's further movement with USA.

It's more like a bluff than real actions. Russia can't loose India.they were in relations for 60 years.

Pakistan can't count on Russia to take on India, that's basic knowledge. But you can take advantage of their contradictions to get some goodies.

In the dictionary of Russians, there is no word called brotherhood.

Randomly ask some Turkish or Chinese in this forum, whether they trust Russia or not.

That's what we learnt in our relationship with USA and Soviet in the 1970s and 1980s. This world is too damn cruel.


If you keep giving those big contracts to USA and France, polar bear will sell Su35 to Pakistan. You shall get your self mentally prepared.

The pull out of India in Su57 had bankrupted the project, that sure will influence your relationship in certain extent.


It's no wrong to build necessary infrastructure if one wanna develop economy. No pay no gain. As to the debt Pakistan has with China, it's not your concern. They can pay it back at the rythem they are comfortable with. We are not in a hurry at all.

No pressure, no growth.

And sure China will do Pakistan a favour when they have to pay back IMF fund through AIIB or other channels.


Where is your dear Russia when your *** was kicked in 1962.

Maybe some military aid and lip service.

When China is gonna beat someone, others will stand there and just look.

I hope you realize you can't sacrifice relationship with China for flattering others. That brings you no benefits.

That is exactly what I am saying. The Indians copped out.

LOL ask the Russians whether they are amused with this "business" move by India. It is not me you have to convince.
 
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It is not may anymore.

Pakistan is replacing India in the SU-57 program.

I have a different opinion, I think China is ahead of Russia in terms of 5th Gen Fighter Technology and Pakistan would like to stick with China rather than to go for Russian Jets. Currently, there is hardly anything that Russia can offer which China cannot.

S-400 system for Pakistan, in sha Allah.

How do I even begin to explain to you that S-400 is already an obsolete system. In the time frame in which we 'may' acquire a BMD/AD system, guided energy and laser based weapon systems would be in the play which have unlimited defensive capability as opposed to any current BMD/AD system which has a limited number of missiles for interception.

Pakistan uses JF-17 which has Russia engine, not to mention Mi-35M which Pakistan bought. Russia Pakistan cooperation is already at very high level. I can see MiG-35 replace Pakistan's F-16 in the mid size category. MiG-35 is far superior.

I seriously doubt that.
 
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