Russia has allowed China to sell THE J-16 to Pakistan

[omi]

kahan sey latay hain log iss kisam ki bekar baatein?

 

[doorstar]

Something like J-16 is required for its long range. Pakistan does not need to use such long range 90% of the time so it is worth all the extra cost?

they do not want it but if they did China is no longer barred from giving it

J11 or J16 for Pakistan is no longer a dream, Russia has allowed the export: but only to Pakistan. https://www.163.com/dy/article/GNBGNEO305359SSJ.html

 

[Shotgunner51]

what is the source of your claim? a claim by someone on another website?

I've looked it up, just some hearsay nothing credible yet.

 

[doorstar]

Pakistan should get J-16Ds too.

J-16D is better than F/A 18 growler.

Indians are mince meat now.

hello *ajeet doval

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

J-16 is F-15E size. It is too expensive for Pakistan to operate.

 

[Shotgunner51]

J16 costs 520 million CNY (80 million USD).
The cost of J35 is estimated to be 480 million CNY (75 million US dollars) by domestic media.
Moreover, the Russians are very alert to the emergence of J16. I seriously doubt that Russia will allow China to export J16.
In fact, J16 is the best flanker now, and Russia is selling SU35

Exactly, from Russia POV they might as well sell Su-35 directly to Pakistan, may even have price advantage due to lower ruble exchange rate.

Of course, whether PAF wants Flankers or not is the core question. By investing in Flankers may imply that PAF is transitioning itself from a defensive force into an offensive one, it's a fundamental change in war doctrine as well as investment plan, a list of other gears/infrastructure will be procured along with new jets. However in recent years PAF seems to be vested on working with PLAAF to create an inter-operable "joint force" which may very possibly include offensive missions in the future, PAF going solo offensive seems unlikely. Just my opinion.

 

[jamal18]

I thought that for the PAF to prefer single engined fighters was a matter of choice.?

Can somebody enlighten us?

 

[The Eagle]

无人机对抗印度海军？根本不可能的。无人机只能对付，没有空军，并且防空实力非常弱的国家。
无人机飞行速度慢，在有人战机面前只能是活靶子。
至于潜艇，中国向巴基斯坦出口了8艘S20，合同总价值50亿美元，平均每艘6亿多美元。
注意， 这已经是非常友好的价格了。S20 水下排水量只有2300吨，是种小型潜艇。巴基斯坦如果要从其他国家购买， 还要贵得多。另外，潜艇建造复杂，交付周期很长。中巴潜艇合同是2017年签的，到现在都没有交付一艘。

如果是购买40架 歼16，按中国目前的产能，2年内可以全部交付。

J16 for $80 million and J31 for $100 million.

No regional language on the Forum. Use English or translated version at-least for readers.

As an important member of the South Asian region, Pakistan is constrained by the lack of economy and financial resources. It has always been equipped with single-engine light fighters, such as JF17, F16 and F104, or dual-engine light fighters, such as J-6 and J-5, which have severely restricted the development of Pakistan's air power.



However, it is likely that this will change in the coming days, and Pakistan may soon be Fielding twin-engined heavy fighters, greatly strengthening the PAF.Because of the recent news that Russia will allow China to sell Pakistan fighter jets based on the Su-27 technology, such as the J-11, J-15 and J-16.

In the past, the Russian side was not allowed to sell or participate in air shows for these homemade fighter jets developed from the Soviet model, so it has been almost unheard of to see these "Shenkhoi" fighters at air shows until this year's J-16D, which has broken the situation.Now Russia is allowed to sell "Shenkhoi" series fighter jets to Pakistan, which is a big change, but on the face of it, it can only be sold to Pakistan.Compared to the twin-engined heavy fighter, the light fighter is deficient in many ways.Take THE F16 and JF17 currently equipped by Pakistan as examples. Both of them are single-engine light fighters. Take THE F16 for example, its in-flight fuel is only a little over 3 tons, about 3.2 tons, with three auxiliary tanks, the range can barely reach 3,800 kilometers.One third of the range is an operational radius of about 1200 km, compared to 860 km with two drop tanks and four AIM-9 air-to-air missiles.

This is far less range and payload than the Su-27, which can carry 7 tons or less than 10 tons, and is simply not capable of supporting long-range operations or sustained air stagnation.In addition, The United States will not allow Pakistan to use its current workhorse fleet of F-16s against its eastern neighbor, which is a huge constraint for Pakistan.As a result, Pakistan is gradually increasing the number of JF17s to replace the F16s.

In addition, due to the printing | JunLie installed more than 270 Sue mki 30, 60 mig 29 upg and newly equipped three squadron 36 rafale, Pakistan just rely on the dozens of F16, hundreds of JF17, it's hard to fight these pair of medium and heavy machine.So Pakistan also has an urgent need for twin-engine heavy aircraft.This time, Russia allowed the sale of Shenkhoi series fighter jets, which is an opportunity for the Pakistani army, and it is no longer a dream for the Pakistani army to deploy heavy fighters.

歼11歼16入列巴基斯坦不再是梦，俄已允许出口：只限巴基斯坦

What's the source and how good it is?

@Shotgunner51 bro?

 

[doorstar]

matter of choice.?

matter of Pakistan's defensive needs verus web warriors want for ego boost, in the style modi bakhts.

However in recent years PAF seems to be vested in working with PLAAF to create an inter-operable "joint force" which may very possibly include offensive missions in the future, PAF going solo offensive seems unlikely.

^^ this. Pakistan cannot afford to go on the offense on its lonesome. interoperability and loan of machines from China will be required in-case China needs Pakistan to go on the offensive

 

[The Eagle]

Nothing different than those stealthier 3 types of fighters landed on different bases.

Please don't bother to post it again unless credible source.

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