Russia Develops Own THAAD-like, GMD-like Missile Defense Systems

[vostok]

In USSR there was even restricted internal immigration policy when it was about non Ethnic Russians. People from Central Asian and Far East Republics were never allowed to travel the Western USSR.

Regarding Latvians, there are very cautious after Georgian and recently Ukrainian problem. There was even language row over this in Latvia because even in Latvia there are large numbers of Russian speakers.



This is what i am saying that Ex SSR republics are afraid about it




This will be the biggest issue between the Ukrainian and Russian Federation for many years.




USSR is history and it wont be revive and Russian Federation for sure is trying to revive it and trying that Ex SSR republics return back under the Russian Federation influence but EU and NATO are more stronger economically but neither Russian Federation nor the Ex SSR republics nor NATO wants full scale war.

Georgia , Ukraine have putted all the Ex SSR republics on alert and even paved way for them to not only join EU but even be part of NATO .

I do not think that your knowledge about USSR correspond to reality. The USSR was a leader in the protection of human rights, when in America they do not let Negroes in public transport. The Soviet Union was the greatest state in the history of mankind, which was ahead of time for centuries. Sooner or later, mankind will return to socialism. New socialism will be built taking into account the mistakes of the USSR.
In the USSR was some internal migration, but only voluntary. Work and housing were provided for every region. For Central Asians did not make sense to move to Latvia. USSR spent a tonns of money on Uzbek or Latvian writers and scholars. Huge research institutions were engaged in the problems of language, literature, culture of the peoples of the USSR.
You should know one thing - it does not matter to us what thinks the West or its Kiev puppet on this occasion. It only matters that our struggle is absolutely legitimate from the point of view of history. New Russia was formed as a Russian land and it remained so all the time. We just go back home.

In yellow highlighted area of Little Russia, when she was reunited with Russia in 1654. The rest of the territory of modern Ukraine - a conquest of the Russian Tsars and the Bolsheviks.
I do not see anything wrong with that Russian land are fighting for their sacred right to be a part of Russia.

 

[Hindustani78]

I do not think that your knowledge about USSR correspond to reality. The USSR was a leader in the protection of human rights, when in America they do not let Negroes in public transport.

All that was linked to the cold war politics

The Soviet Union was the greatest state in the history of mankind, which was ahead of time for centuries. Sooner or later, mankind will return to socialism. New socialism will be built taking into account the mistakes of the USSR.

Socialism is not the answer , it kept even my country backward for long time.

In the USSR was some internal migration, but only voluntary. Work and housing were provided for every region. For Central Asians did not make sense to move to Latvia. USSR spent a tonns of money on Uzbek or Latvian writers and scholars. Huge research institutions were engaged in the problems of language, literature, culture of the peoples of the USSR..

Here i am just saying how i think on this subject . There was systemic immigration which was done under the establishment and because of this only ethnic Russians are even now found in all the Ex SSR Republics in large numbers.

You should know one thing - it does not matter to us what thinks the West or its Kiev puppet on this occasion. It only matters that our struggle is absolutely legitimate from the point of view of history. New Russia was formed as a Russian land and it remained so all the time. We just go back home.

Your this New Russia is based on Ethnic Russian model when it comes to Ukraine. Where as in Georgia it was the division of Ossetians between Russian Federation and Georgian republic and somewhat is the same in Abkhazia.

 

[Superboy]

Socialism is not the answer , it kept even my country backward for long time.

You do realize the US is like the world's most socialist country? Over 60 million poor people in the US all supported practically for free.

 

[Hindustani78]

You do realize the US is like the world's most socialist country? Over 60 million poor people in the US all supported practically for free.

If what you are saying is true then why united states is called as the hub of capitalism.

 

[Superboy]

If what you are saying is true that why united states is called as the hub of capitalism.

It's not. The US is socialist. In fact, it is precisely socialism that is helping the US survive by keeping US citizens fed and happy.

 

[vostok]

All that was linked to the cold war politics




Socialism is not the answer , it kept even my country backward for long time.




Here i am just saying how i think on this subject . There was systemic immigration which was done under the establishment and because of this only ethnic Russians are even found in all the Ex SSR Republics in large numbers.




Your this New Russia is based on Ethnic Russian model when it comes to Ukraine. Where as in Georgia it was the division of Ossetians between Russian Federation and Georgian republic and somewhat is the same in Abkhazia.

Why Ukraine can be built on an ethnic basis, and New Russia - no? New Russia has the right to choose its own destiny. Our destiny - it is our Homeland, Russia. Russia has created a New Russia and New Russia wants to return to her Mother.
Representatives of all peoples have a right freely move throughout the USSR. Just Russian accounted for about half of the population, so it is natural, they are more common than other nations.
Since then in Ukraine overthrew the legitimate government and the junta beginning repressions and murders of dissidents there are no more place in my heart and mind for Ukraine. The same think millions of my countrymen Novorossians. Junta has done everything that we cursed the Ukraine and did not want ever be a part of this country.

 

[mercurydancer]

Vostok

I am with you in many ways. Part of my family is in Pyatigorsk. Ukraine has made its own mind against Russians.

 

[Hindustani78]

TASS: Russia - Russian military received 38 intercontinental missiles in 2014 — defense minister

December 19, 19:05 UTC+3
Russian Air Force has taken into service more than 140 jets and 135 helicopters this year, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said

MOSCOW, December 19. /TASS/. Russia's Strategic Nuclear Forces added 38 new intercontinental ballistic missiles to their tables of equipment this year, including 22 submarine-based missiles, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said on Friday at an expanded session of the Defense Ministry's Board.

The percentage of upgraded armaments in the Armed Forces has thus reached 56%, he said. The Strategic Missile Troops now have three new regiments operating Yars missile complexes.

By the end of December, the Navy will have three strategic nuclear-powered submarines of the Borei class. The first of them, the Yuri Dolgoruky, has already come on full-scale combat duty.

Another two submarines, the Knyaz Vladimir (Duke Vladimir) and the Knyaz Oleg (Duke Oleg) have merged with the forces of permanent combat readiness.

Shoigu said in his report Russia's strategic missile forces were at a level that enabled them to perform the tasks of nuclear containment.

Russian Air Force
Russian Air Force has taken into service more than 140 jets and 135 helicopters this year, Shoigu said.

This year, aerospace defense brigades were restructured in air defense squadrons which the Defense Ministry abandoned in 2009-2012 according to plans approved by the then-Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. The Air Force also set up a combined air division and an air defense squadron.

The report said that 142 jets the Air Force received include 53 multifunctional fighter jets Sukhoi Su-30 and Su-35. Meanwhile, 18 modernized interceptors MiG-31VM, 16 fighter-bombers Su-34 and 28 different transport and training jets were handed to the military.

As many as 135 helicopter gunships include 46 choppers and 72 assault helicopters.

Meanwhile, seven air defense missile systems S-400 Triumf were brought into service in Russian Air Force for the past day, the report said.

Aerospace Defense Forces put on combat duty Voronezh-type highly prefabricated radar stations in Russian westernmost city of Kaliningrad and Irkutsk in Russia’s Far East, the document added. Another two similar radars were put on combat trial in Barnaul and Yeniseisk in eastern Siberia’s Krasnoyarsk territory. The coverage of these radar stations reaches 6,000 kilometers, they can be deployed for 12 to 18 months against 5-7 years of Voronezh predecessors.

 

[Hindustani78]

Why Ukraine can be built on an ethnic basis, and New Russia - no? New Russia has the right to choose its own destiny. Our destiny - it is our Homeland, Russia. Russia has created a New Russia and New Russia wants to return to her Mother.
Representatives of all peoples have a right freely move throughout the USSR. Just Russian accounted for about half of the population, so it is natural, they are more common than other nations.
Since then in Ukraine overthrew the legitimate government and the junta beginning repressions and murders of dissidents there are no more place in my heart and mind for Ukraine. The same think millions of my countrymen Novorossians. Junta has done everything that we cursed the Ukraine and did not want ever be a part of this country.

Was Ukraine built on ethnic lines in 1990 ? Russian Federation itself is not established on the same lines ? Here its about the sovereignty.
I have read about the internal immigration issues how restriction were placed on internal immigration etc.

 

[Superboy]

Was Ukraine built on ethnic lines in 1990 ? Russian Federation itself is not established on the same lines ? Here its about the sovereignty.
I have read about the internal immigration issues how restriction were placed on internal immigration etc.

Nop. Ukraine was part of Russian empire for hundreds of years. Most Ukrainians are Russian ethnically and speak Russian. Likewise, in Kazakhstan and in Belarus, Russians are majority. In Austria, Canada, the US, most people on census identify ethnically as Austrian, Canadian, American, but those are not really ethnic groups.

Ukrainian soldiers speak Russian

 

[vostok]

Was Ukraine built on ethnic lines in 1990 ? Russian Federation itself is not established on the same lines ? Here its about the sovereignty.
I have read about the internal immigration issues how restriction were placed on internal immigration etc.

Ukraine - an artificial entity created from many different lands. New Russia was annexed to Ukraine in 1922, by the abolition of the Soviet Republic of Odessa and Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic.
Now there is a reverse process. Those lands that were attached to the Ukrainian Republic against their will seek to recover their true, historical position and return to Russia. In worst case - like member of the Eurasian Union.
Sovereignty - a relative term. Did Britain had sovereignty over India in 1945 or sovereignty over 13 colonies in 1770? This means that India's or USA desire to independence was illegal. Nevertheless, it was legal. So is the desire of the people of New Russia to reunite with our Motherland, Russia.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ukraine - an artificial entity created from many different lands. New Russia was annexed to Ukraine in 1922, by the abolition of the Soviet Republic of Odessa and Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic.
Now there is a reverse process. Those lands that were attached to the Ukrainian Republic against their will seek to recover their true, historical position and return to Russia. In worst case - like member of the Eurasian Union.
Sovereignty - a relative term. Did Britain had sovereignty over India in 1945 or sovereignty over 13 colonies in 1770? This means that India's or USA desire to independence was illegal. Nevertheless, it was legal. So is the desire of the people of New Russia to reunite with our Motherland, Russia.

I know there is no end to this argument because cold war never ended on ground. Russian Federation did played the biggest role in the disintegration of USSR, Just blaming on ex President Gorbache or Yeltsin will not change the reality. Russian Federation even during that time was aware that NATO powers were afraid of USSR as it was the largest Nuclear weapons state and even now Russian Federation is having the largest numbers of interceptors and launchers and having more Nuclear weapons and ICBM's with Air defenses placed all over.

Ukraine did gave up Nuclear weapons after the Independence in which Russian Federation played the biggest role and now after 25 years Ukraine got annexed.

Case of India cant be used here because the end of Cold war was like new beginning and normalization of relations between NATO and Russian Federation but still that problem is going on in which majority of second and third world countries are paying the price and seeing the death and destruction.

 

[vostok]

I know there is no end to this argument because cold war never ended no ground. Russian Federation did played the biggest role in the disintegration of USSR, Just blaming on ex President Gorbache or Yeltsin will not change the reality. Russian Federation even during that time was aware that NATO powers were afraid of USSR as it was the largest Nuclear weapons state and even now Russian Federation is having the largest numbers of interceptors and launchers and having more Nuclear weapons and ICBM's with Air defenses placed all over.

Ukraine did gave up Nuclear weapons after the Independence in which Russian Federation played the biggest role and now after 25 years Ukraine got annexed.

Case of India cant be used here because the end of Cold war was like new beginning and normalization of relations between NATO and Russian Federation but still that problem is going on in which majority of second and third world countries are paying the price and seeing the death and destruction.

Soviet Union was destroyed by Judas Gorbachev and his accomplices - Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich.
West gladly recognized the collapse of the USSR, but in every way prevents the reunification of my Motherland. National liberation struggle of Novorossia against the Ukrainian junta - part of the process of reunification of my Motherland. The other part - the creation of the Eurasian Union.
Like every nation, divided by traitors Novorossia will be reunited with Motherland by the blood of her best sons. Novorossya will gain sovereignty and independence from criminal junta of the Ukraine.

 

[Hindustani78]

Soviet Union was destroyed by Judas Gorbachev and his accomplices - Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich.
West gladly recognized the collapse of the USSR, but in every way prevents the reunification of my Motherland. National liberation struggle of Novorossia against the Ukrainian junta - part of the process of reunification of my Motherland. The other part - the creation of the Eurasian Union.
Like every nation, divided by traitors Novorossia will be reunited with Motherland by the blood of her best sons. Novorossya will gain sovereignty and independence from criminal junta of the Ukraine.

This is what i am trying to say that blaming some leaders like Gorbachev and Yeltsin is not the answer , there was internal power struggle within USSR for being in power and the whole world has saw how representatives of Russian Federation worked for the disintegration of USSR and this only led to the immigration of Eastern Europeans in the Western Europe, United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc. What happened with the population transfers in 1885 then in 1920 then in 1945 and in then 1991 , the same is happening even in 2014.

Why you are over looking that Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons and here i don't deny that Ukraine got struck up between NATO and Russian Federation because of the Sevastopol port where Russian Federation black sea fleet was stationed. But Ukraine did signed the Kharkiv pact and extended that treaty but still Ukraine become the battleground and in the end Crimea got annexed and some Eastern Ukraine provinces declared Independence. Now Eastern Ukraine regions have become like Abkhazia and Ossetia.

 

[vostok]

This is what i am trying to say that blaming some leaders like Gorbachev and Yeltsin is not the answer , there was internal power struggle within USSR for being in power and the whole world has saw how representatives of Russian Federation worked for the disintegration of USSR and this only led to the immigration of Eastern Europeans in the Western Europe, United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc. What happened with the population transfers in 1885 then in 1920 then in 1945 and in then 1991 , the same is happening even in 2014.

Why you are over looking that Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons and here i don't deny that Ukraine got struck up between NATO and Russian Federation because of the Sevastopol port where Russian Federation black sea fleet was stationed. But Ukraine did signed the Kharkiv pact and extended that treaty but still Ukraine become the battleground and in the end Crimea got annexed and some Eastern Ukraine provinces declared Independence. Now Eastern Ukraine regions have become like Abkhazia and Ossetia.

Nobody solves internal problems by destroying the state. Gorbachev once confessed that he sought to destroy communism. His guilt in the destruction of the Union is 100%.
New Russia - Russian land and land of Russian-speaking people. New Russia - historically constituted community built in Russian language, the heroism of the Russian army, Russian culture, Russian science and Russian Orthodox Church. On this basis, we believe absolutely legitimate that the criminal regime in Kiev, built on different values, can not represent our interests.
Therefore, the only way that seems right - to seek independence from the criminal fascist regime of Kiev and re-connect our fate with Russia, which is our Mother and our Motherland.