Russia Develops Own THAAD-like, GMD-like Missile Defense Systems

[Hindustani78]

In Novorossia living not only ethnic Great Russians (Russian), but Little Russians (Ukrainians), as well as Bulgarians, Greeks, Tatars, Moldovans, Gagauz and other nations. We are all united through Russian language and Russian culture.
I've already written about 1991. Then, to be held modernization of the Union, not its destruction. It is for this modernization people voted on two refferendums in 1991. There gonna be no boundaries between Soviet republics.
However, the Ukrainian authorities systematically deceived Russian half of Ukraine. Our main requirement was very simple - to return to Russian the status of the state language, as it was during the Soviet Union. Instead, the authorities who always went on about the West and took Russophobe position, performed forced Ukrainization. So much so, that in regions where Ukrainian language using was 1-2% there left no Russian schools, only Ukrainian.
After Maidan, we asked very little - state status to Russian language and federalization. It's very simple to do, there are many federations in the world - Canada, the US, Germany, Russia. However, instead of an agreement, the junta sent troops. This war and division of Ukraine is 100% fault of junta.
New Russia, relying on the fundamental right given by the UN - the right to self-determination, craves independence from criminal Kiev regime and the people of New Russia wants to reunite with the people of Russia.

Disintegration of USSR was done on the basics of ethnicity if i am not wrong and according to the majority of the ethnic populations in each SSR Republics were there . But Ethnic Russians were living in all the SSR republics even after the disintegration of USSR and even now the same thing is there and those ethnic Russians are nationals of those countries but the different ethnic population of SSR republics return back to their country after Independence in majority.

All the Ex SSR republics are afraid after the war in Georgia, Ossetia, Abkhazia, Ukraine, Transderia etc. Even the same i can say is visible in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland etc. Don't you think its like violation of sovereignty of those nations ?

 

[vostok]

Disintegration of USSR was done on the basics of ethnicity if i am not wrong and according to the majority of the ethnic populations in each SSR Republics were there . But Ethnic Russians were living in all the SSR republics even after the disintegration of USSR and even now the same thing is there and those ethnic Russians are nationals of those countries but the different ethnic population of SSR republics return back to their country after Independence in majority.

All the Ex SSR republics are afraid after the war in Georgia, Ossetia, Abkhazia, Ukraine, Transderia etc. Even the same i can say is visible in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland etc. Don't you think its like violation of sovereignty of those nations ?

Once upon a time in the Soviet Union was 16th republic - Karelia. If it was not abolished, now North of St. Petersburg would be an independent state. If abolished the Ukrainian Republic in its time, now there would be no independent Ukraine.
Russian speakers in Ukraine more than Ukrainian speakers. New Russia using Russian language by about 80%. About 10 million people in the south and east of the former Ukraine - Russian ethnic.
Russian-speaking residents of New Russia retained the loyalty to our true Motherland - Russia. We view our presence in Ukraine as part of the historical unjustice. We resist forced Ukrainization, up to an armed uprising.
In fact, almost at the entire territory of Ukraine Russian language - the language of culture, city and science,Ukrainian (Little Russian) language - the language of rural areas and peasants.
Here is a map request to the Internet in the Ukrainian language for different regions of Ukraine.

Here the result of the survey of agency Gallup on the native language in the former Soviet republics.

West recognized the secession of Kosovo from Serbia and South Sudan from Sudan. Sooner or later the West recognizes the independence of the New Russia from Ukraine.

 

[Hindustani78]

Once upon a time in the Soviet Union was 16th republic - Karelia. If it was not abolished, now North of St. Petersburg would be an independent state. If abolished the Ukrainian Republic in its time, now there would be no independent Ukraine.

Here you are saying by yourself about this that there are different ethnic groups within Russian Federation but the case of Karelia cant be compare with Ukraine or Georgia.

Russian speakers in Ukraine more than Ukrainian speakers. New Russia using Russian language by about 80%. About 10 million people in the south and east of the former Ukraine - Russian ethnic.

Russian-speaking residents of New Russia retained the loyalty to our true Motherland - Russia. We view our presence in Ukraine as part of the historical unjustice. We resist forced Ukrainization, up to an armed uprising.
In fact, almost at the entire territory of Ukraine Russian language - the language of culture, city and science,Ukrainian (Little Russian) language - the language of rural areas and peasants.

Here again my question would be the same . Why in 1991 Russian Federation not thought about all this and now why this matters ? Every country do have ethnic groups . When Ukrainians,Georgians can live in Russian Federation by being part of Russian Federation then why cant Ethnic Russians live being part of Ukraine or Georgia ?

West recognized the secession of Kosovo from Serbia and South Sudan from Sudan. Sooner or later the West recognizes the independence of the New Russia from Ukraine.

Case of Kosovo is no different from Serbia, Bosnia etc which led to the disintegration of Yugoslavia and in case of Sudan it was more about Oil politics. Now South Sudan is Independent but still the violence is not ending there.

 

[vostok]

Here you are saying by yourself about this that there are different ethnic groups within Russian Federation but the case of Karelia cant be compare with Ukraine or Georgia.




Here again my question would be the same . Why in 1991 Russian Federation not thought about all this and now why this matters ? Every country do have ethnic groups . When Ukrainians,Georgians can live in Russian Federation by being part of Russian Federation then why cant Ethnic Russians live being part of Ukraine or Georgia ?





Case of Kosovo is no different from Serbia, Bosnia etc which led to the disintegration of Yugoslavia and in case of Sudan it was more about Oil politics. Now South Sudan is Independent but still the violence is not ending there.

In my opinion you do not read my answers. Land of New Russia was conquered by Russian army. Russian people here have built cities, factories, schools, factories, ports and shipyards, universities. Here moved to live from all lands of the Russian Empire. In 1922, Lenin, for tactical reasons included the New Russia (the former Odessa and Donetsk Soviet republics) into the Ukrainian Republic. In 1954, again for tactical reasons Crimea also was included into the Ukrainian republic.
Nobody asked the local population. In general, it was not important, because nobody even in nightmare did not see Ukraine as a separate state from Russia.
In 1991 2 referendums was held. At first one people voted for preservation of the USSR. On the second - for independence of their republics. But this independence have not mean secession from the USSR. Instead, the USSR had to be changed in to Union of Independent States, with common borders, currency and army (something like the European Union, only closer integration).
Now, after the power in Ukraine was seized by junta, Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians protested the fact that nobody cares about our opinion . At first, we wanted only the return of state status to our native Russian language. A little later came the requirement for federalization of Ukraine. Instead of negotiations junta sent troops. Junta burned alive 43 people in Odessa, although Odessa citizens were not demanding any independence only federalization. Junta has crossed the line and started a military operation against its own citizens. That's why, we will now seek independence from Ukraine.

 

[Hindustani78]

In my opinion you do not read my answers. Land of New Russia was conquered by Russian army. Russian people here have built cities, factories, schools, factories, ports and shipyards, universities. Here moved to live from all lands of the Russian Empire. In 1922, Lenin, for tactical reasons included the New Russia (the former Odessa and Donetsk Soviet republics) into the Ukrainian Republic. In 1954, again for tactical reasons Crimea also was included into the Ukrainian republic.
Nobody asked the local population. In general, it was not important, because nobody even in nightmare did not see Ukraine as a separate state from Russia.
In 1991 2 referendums was held. At first one people voted for preservation of the USSR. On the second - for independence of their republics. But this independence have not mean secession from the USSR. Instead, the USSR had to be changed in to Union of Independent States, with common borders, currency and army (something like the European Union, only closer integration).

I am reading all the answers from your side and here we both are talking mainly on ethnicity, language and sovereignty subject.

So you are saying that 1991 referendum was not about complete Independence but limited independence with complete inclination towards the Russian Federation. So according to you it was limited Sovereignty ? And my question is simply is this , Is UN Charter applied on Ukraine ?

Now, after the power in Ukraine was seized by junta, Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians protested the fact that nobody cares about our opinion . At first, we wanted only the return of state status to our native Russian language. A little later came the requirement for federalization of Ukraine. Instead of negotiations junta sent troops. Junta burned alive 43 people in Odessa, although Odessa citizens were not demanding any independence only federalization. Junta has crossed the line and started a military operation against its own citizens. That's why, we will now seek independence from Ukraine.

Ukrainians wants good live and always trying to enter EU by any means. Illegal immigrants in EU countries are having large numbers of Ukrainians and this was even one of the reason that some EU countries were talking about border check points by making the asylum seekers and refugees of African and Middle Eastern origins but in reality it was more about the immigration flooding from Eastern Europe which includes Ukraine,Romania and Bulgaria etc.

Now Russian Federation has annexed Crimea but in case of Ukrainian regions which are under rebel control still talks are going on similar like the Abkhazia, ossetia and Transnistria etc .

 

[vostok]

I am reading all the answers from your side and here we both are talking mainly on ethnicity, language and sovereignty subject.

So you are saying that 1991 referendum was not about complete Independence but limited independence with complete inclination towards the Russian Federation. So according to you it was limited Sovereignty ? And my question is simply is this , Is UN Charter applied on Ukraine ?



Ukrainians wants good live and always trying to enter EU by any means. Illegal immigrants in EU countries are having large numbers of Ukrainians and this was even one of the reason that some EU countries were talking about border check points by making the asylum seekers and refugees of African and Middle Eastern origins but in reality it was more about the immigration flooding from Eastern Europe which includes Ukraine,Romania and Bulgaria etc.

Now Russian Federation has annexed Crimea but in case of Ukrainian regions which are under rebel control still talks are going on similar like the Abkhazia, ossetia and Transnistria etc .

Residents of New Russia, guided by the fundamental right to self-determination of the United Nations have made their choice in favor of independence and reunification with Russia in one form or another.
Ukraine will never get a good life in the EU, as has not received Bulgaria, Romania, Greece and other countries.
For us, the inhabitants of New Russia, Europe - is the eternal aggressor and not a model to follow. Whenever the Europeans came to our land, they brought to us murders and suffering.
Sovereignty - a relative term. The Russian Empire was a sovereign state, but the West is happy to recognize the independence of the provinces, that breakaway from the Empire. The USSR was a fully sovereign, the British Empire was sovereign. Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were sovereign, East Germany was a sovereign state, Serbia was sovereign, Sudan was sovereign, and so on.
New Russia leads the armed struggle for the right to live freely on our own land and the right to speak in our native Russian language. We do not accept the European course of the junta. For us, Europe - the aggressor and oppressor. Russia for us - Mother and Motherland.
Our struggle for reunification with the Motherland is sacred, so does not matter what the West and its puppets think about it. New Russia will be free!

 

[Hindustani78]

Residents of New Russia, guided by the fundamental right to self-determination of the United Nations have made their choice in favor of independence and reunification with Russia in one form or another.
Ukraine will never get a good life in the EU, as has not received Bulgaria, Romania, Greece and other countries.
For us, the inhabitants of New Russia, Europe - is the eternal aggressor and not a model to follow. Whenever the Europeans came to our land, they brought to us murders and suffering.
Sovereignty - a relative term. The Russian Empire was a sovereign state, but the West is happy to recognize the independence of the provinces, that breakaway from the Empire. The USSR was a fully sovereign, the British Empire was sovereign. Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were sovereign, East Germany was a sovereign state, Serbia was sovereign, Sudan was sovereign, and so on.
New Russia leads the armed struggle for the right to live freely on our own land and the right to speak in our native Russian language. We do not accept the European course of the junta. For us, Europe - the aggressor and oppressor. Russia for us - Mother and Motherland.
Our struggle for reunification with the Motherland is sacred, so does not matter what the West and its puppets think about it. New Russia will be free!

European Union is somehow on USSR model in which all different European nations have joined the block and each country is keeping the rights of its minorities by making the immigration of non Europeans nations as an issue but things haven't worked out in USSR because of Socialism which has destroyed the economy of USSR but on another level increased each individual on technical level in which individuals were able to do all the works but here USSR was more towards the Western SSR republics and neglected Central Asian and Far East SSR republics and even now if to see that Central Asian and Far East Provinces are still with Russian Federation in majority.

USSR model was based on multiculturalism on paper but in reality it was more on the racial lines and this is the reason its even now hard for the people in SSR republics to adjust with other non european nations.

Ukrainians for sure will move into Western Europe, United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc like the rest of the European nations.

 

[Superboy]

European Union is somehow on USSR model

Not even close. The USSR was a country much like the US. The EU doesn't have its own army, and is more like the UN.

 

[Hindustani78]

Not even close. The USSR was a country much like the US. The EU doesn't have its own army, and is more like the UN.

Disintegration of Yugoslavia and USSR has made EU block into reality. EU is working on united force under different names. European Rapid Operational Force (Eurofor), European Gendarmerie Force (EUROGENDFOR or EGF), EU Battlegroup (EUBG, Allied Rapid Reaction Corps, (ARRC) and even the recently formed NATO response force


German troops to tip new Nato 'spearhead' - The Local

 

[vostok]

European Union is somehow on USSR model in which all different European nations have joined the block and each country is keeping the rights of its minorities by making the immigration of non Europeans nations as an issue but things haven't worked out in USSR because of Socialism which has destroyed the economy of USSR but on another level increased each individual on technical level in which individuals were able to do all the works but here USSR was more towards the Western SSR republics and neglected Central Asian and Far East SSR republics and even now if to see that Central Asian and Far East Provinces are still with Russian Federation in majority.

USSR model was based on multiculturalism on paper but in reality it was more on the racial lines and this is the reason its even now hard for the people in SSR republics to adjust with other non european nations.

Ukrainians for sure will move into Western Europe, United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc like the rest of the European nations.

The USSR created a culture, alphabet, science and others for most of the peoples (not for all, of corse) that inhabit it.
Not so long ago I red an interview with the Deputy Minister of Culture of Latvia. Previously, he believed in the anti-Soviet propaganda of the West. And when he took the post of deputy minister of culture, he learned that all the textbooks, study of folklore, study of the history of Latvia - it was all created in the USSR. After USSR they did nothung in this spheres. USSR spent fabulous sums on the development of the culture of peoples. "Friendship of peoples" - was not just a beautiful phrase, it was a reality.
Over time, the truth about the Soviet Union will be restored.
I have nothing against the Ukrainians to join Europe, USA, Mars, or Sodom and Gomorrah - it is their full right. I just want to Kiev regime to recognize our independence. We have different road.
I do not know, how looks like the struggle of my people for independence and reunification with the Motherland for the West, but for us this fight looks just like the US struggle for independence, the struggle for the independence of India and so on. This fight will be successful and our great motherland - Russia will again be united and powerful.

 

[Hindustani78]

The USSR created a culture, alphabet, science and others for most of the peoples (not for all, of corse) that inhabit it.
Not so long ago I red an interview with the Deputy Minister of Culture of Latvia. Previously, he believed in the anti-Soviet propaganda of the West. And when he took the post of deputy minister of culture, he learned that all the textbooks, study of folklore, study of the history of Latvia - it was all created in the USSR. After USSR they did nothung in this spheres. USSR spent fabulous sums on the development of the culture of peoples. "Friendship of peoples" - was not just a beautiful phrase, it was a reality.

In USSR there was even restricted internal immigration policy when it was about non Ethnic Russians. People from Central Asian and Far East Republics were never allowed to travel the Western USSR.

Regarding Latvians, there are very cautious after Georgian and recently Ukrainian problem. There was even language row over this in Latvia because even in Latvia there are large numbers of Russian speakers.

Over time, the truth about the Soviet Union will be restored.

This is what i am saying that Ex SSR republics are afraid about it

I have nothing against the Ukrainians to join Europe, USA, Mars, or Sodom and Gomorrah - it is their full right. I just want to Kiev regime to recognize our independence. We have different road.

This will be the biggest issue between the Ukrainian and Russian Federation for many years.

I do not know, how looks like the struggle of my people for independence and reunification with the Motherland for the West, but for us this fight looks just like the US struggle for independence, the struggle for the independence of India and so on. This fight will be successful and our great motherland - Russia will again be united and powerful.

USSR is history and it wont be revive and Russian Federation for sure is trying to revive it and trying that Ex SSR republics return back under the Russian Federation influence but EU and NATO are more stronger economically but neither Russian Federation nor the Ex SSR republics nor NATO wants full scale war.

Georgia , Ukraine have putted all the Ex SSR republics on alert and even paved way for them to not only join EU but even be part of NATO .

 

[Superboy]

USSR is history and it wont be revive and Russian Federation for sure is trying to revive it

no one wants the USSR back

 

[Hindustani78]

no one wants the USSR back

Ethnic Russian card is being played in which even non Europeans nations are being targeted within some EU countries.

 

[Superboy]

Ethnic Russian card is being played in which even non Europeans nations are being targeted within some EU countries.

Well then those countries ought to spit out Russian lands.

 

[Hindustani78]

Well then those countries ought to spit out Russian lands.

Those countries have accepted the current borders and even see ethnic Russians as equal citizens but the events have made problems for all including non european nations out of Europe.