Russia Develops Own THAAD-like, GMD-like Missile Defense Systems

[Hindustani78]

I alredy explained to you. They said that instead of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics will be the Union of Independent States - no borders, no customs. Instead of it traitors Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich created Commonwealth of Independent States.
In addition, there was a huge shaft of Western propaganda against the Soviet Union, people were decieved and told that if Ukraine will come out of the Soviet Union, then after a year we will be like second France. The same fairy tales was told in other republics.

Ukraine is an Independent country now like the rest of Ex SSR countries who have become member of United Nations. But here its more about Sovereignty. Was Crimea a different Oblast and not part of Ukraine ?

A million Ukrainians expected to travel to Poland without visas : UNIAN news

So now Ukrainians will move towards Western side

 

[vostok]

Ukraine is an Independent country now like the rest of Ex SSR countries who have become member of United Nations. But here its more about Sovereignty. Was Crimea a different Oblast and not part of Ukraine ?

A million Ukrainians expected to travel to Poland without visas : UNIAN news

So now Ukrainians will move towards Western side

And what about the Eastern Ukraine, New Russia, which do not want integration with Europe, but want integration with Russia? About 6 million Ukrainians work in Russia.
The only right decision - to divide the country peacefully as Czechoslovakia. And let Western Ukraine to go their own European way, I do not mind.

 

[Hindustani78]

And what about the Eastern Ukraine, New Russia, which do not want integration with Europe, but want integration with Russia? About 6 million Ukrainians work in Russia.
The only right decision - to divide the country peacefully as Czechoslovakia. And let Western Ukraine comes their own European way, I do not mind.

Dividing country will not help out the people of Ukraine , be it east or west Ukraine because here its about sovereignty.

Do you think that the whole concept of European Union is based on race that you reject it and seems its too dangerous for Russian Federation ?

 

[vostok]

Dividing country will not help out the people of Ukraine , be it east or west Ukraine because here its about sovereignty.

Do you think that the whole concept of European Union is based on race that you reject it and seems its too dangerous for Russian Federation ?

Eastern Ukraine is pro-Russian. West is pro-European. They honor Hitler, we honor Stalin. They are Catholics, we are Orthodox.
This unification was artificial. The best solution would be to separate. It fully meets the interests of the people of New Russia.

 

[Echo_419]

I alredy explained to you. They said that instead of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics will be the Union of Independent States - no borders, no customs. Instead of it traitors Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich created Commonwealth of Independent States.
In addition, there was a huge shaft of Western propaganda against the Soviet Union, people were decieved and told that if Ukraine will come out of the Soviet Union, then after a year we will be like second France. The same fairy tales was told in other republics.

India lost a great friend when USSR was dissolved hopefully Russia will be able to reunify these regions & be once again powerful like the USSR

 

[Hindustani78]

Eastern Ukraine is pro-Russian. West is pro-European. They honor Hitler, we honor Stalin. They are Catholics, we are Orthodox.
This unification was artificial. The best solution would be to separate. It fully meets the interests of the people of New Russia.

Above you said that Ukrainians and Russians are one people. How come they honor Hitler and was part of USSR then ? Are you trying to say that Russia tried to unite with Ukraine but things haven't worked out ? Crimea problem was linked to the Black sea fleet and having Russian naval presence in Mediterranean Sea and Ukraine was not willing to get in direct confrontation with NATO and was trying to become part of EU and NATO . Now that thing will happen.

Right wingers all over Europe time to time talk in terms of race which is one way or another way to restrict immigration and talk about Pan European nations and here only they glorify Hitler and create problems for Germany.

 

[Hindustani78]

TASS: Russia - Over-the-horizon radar to be deployed in Crimea — source

December 17, 18:11 UTC+3
“The sea-based Podsolnukh radar will be deployed in Crimea that will be ‘looking’ to the Bosporus,” the source said

MOSCOW, December 17. /TASS/. Russia’s Black Sea Fleet will be reinforced by the deployment in Crimea of the Podsolnukh (Sunflower) short-range over-the-horizon surface-wave radar with 450 km target acquisition capacity, a source in the Russian Defense Ministry told TASS on Wednesday.

“The sea-based Podsolnukh radar will be deployed in Crimea that will be ‘looking’ to the Bosporus,” the source said.

The Podsolnukh will detect surface and aerial targets that are nor within line-of-sight range by means of beyond-the-horizon surveillance. The radar station can simultaneously detect, track and classify up top 300 sea and 100 aerial targets in an automatic mode.

Other high-ranking Defense Ministry source confirmed this information, saying that a sufficient group of the Air Force personnel and equipment has already been deployed in Crimea. This group includes battalions of the S-300 antiaircraft missile defense systems. “In this situation, there is no need in the deployment of the S-400 missile systems on the peninsula,” the source said.

Chief of the antiaircraft defence of the Russian Air Force Major General Viktor Gumenny said previously that Crimea was reliably protected by the antiaircraft defense means. In addition, a self-sufficient air grouping comprising fighters, attack, assault aircraft and army and transport aviation has been formed on the peninsula by the winter.

 

[vostok]

Above you said that Ukrainians and Russians are one people. How come they honor Hitler and was part of USSR then ? Are you trying to say that Russia tried to unite with Ukraine but things haven't worked out ? Crimea problem was linked to the Black sea fleet and having Russian naval presence in Mediterranean Sea and Ukraine was not willing to get in direct confrontation with NATO and was trying to become part of EU and NATO . Now that thing will happen.

Right wingers all over Europe time to time talk in terms of race which is one way or another way to restrict immigration and talk about Pan European nations and here only they glorify Hitler and create problems for Germany.

Western Ukraine joined the Soviet Union only in 1939, before they were part of Poland. When Hitler invaded the Soviet Union Western Ukrainians willingly entered his service as a punishers or guard of concentration camps or SS division "Galichina". And still they believe the right side of the War were Nazis, not the Red Army.
Western Ukraine is different from the New Russia more than Pakistan from India. For all it would be better if the separation occurred peacefully, as in Czechoslovakia. However, the junta decided to fight and destroy New Russia. It's their choice, but New Russia will be free anyway.

 

[Hindustani78]

Western Ukraine joined the Soviet Union only in 1939, before they were part of Poland. When Hitler invaded the Soviet Union Western Ukrainians willingly entered his service as a punishers or guard of concentration camps or SS division "Galichina". And still they believe the right side of the War were Nazis, not the Red Army.
Western Ukraine is different from the New Russia more than Pakistan from India. For all it would be better if the separation occurred peacefully, as in Czechoslovakia. However, the junta decided to fight and destroy New Russia. It's their choice, but New Russia will be free anyway.

You are talking here about the joint invasion of Poland by Germany and USSR in 1939 which started second world war if i am not wrong. But even before that during the Russian Revolution of 1917 , Red army did reached till the gates of Warsaw in 1920 where the Polish forces were able to defend warsaw. Second world war was basically an ethnic war in which different tribes joined and formed separate nation and used languages as the base.

But when Ukrainians were united on the basis of language and even tribes and which led to the creation of Independent Ukraine after 1991 then why again Ukrainians are being separated now ? Does Russian Federation see European Union as only white block ?

 

[vostok]

You are talking here about the joint invasion of Poland by Germany and USSR in 1939 which started second world war if i am not wrong. But even before that during the Russian Revolution of 1917 , Red army did reached till the gates of Warsaw in 1920 where the Polish forces were able to defend warsaw. Second world war was basically an ethnic war in which different tribes joined and formed separate nation and used languages as the base.

But when Ukrainians were united on the basis of language and even tribes and which led to the creation of Independent Ukraine after 1991 then why again Ukrainians are being separated now ? Does Russian Federation see European Union as only white block ?

USSR just went to the Curzon Line and returned the land inhabited by Belarussians and Ukrainians. Poland promised to give autonomy to these lands, but never held its promise. West upheld the reunification of these lands with the USSR.
Ukrainians have never been one nation, it is an invention of the Bolsheviks. There are at least three nations in what is now Ukraine: Galicia, Little Russia and New Russia.
New Russia - historical territory from Odessa to Kharkov, Russian-speaking more than 80% (in the Crimea - about 95%). We speak in Russian, go to the Russian Orthodox Church. Most locals believe it was misunderstanding our entry into the Ukraine. We want to be part of Russia again. Russia - our mother, Ukraine - stepmother. We believe our desire to integrate with Russia is perfectly legitimate .
Europe for us - it is not a role model or a "promised land." Europe for us - a bunch of greedy bastards who tried many times to conquer and enslave us. Therefore, we are not on the way with the junta.
Although we do not have anything against that Galicia determines its own way and went to Europe. That's their business.

 

[Hindustani78]

USSR just went to the Curzon Line and returned the land inhabited by Belarussians and Ukrainians. Poland promised to give autonomy to these lands, but never held its promise. West upheld the reunification of these lands with the USSR.

Are you talking here after the disintegration of USSR ? East Germany and Poland issue was separated from the other SSR republics which includes Ukraine and Belarus if i am not talking. Was Poland strong enough during that time to interfere in Ukraine ?

Ukrainians have never been one nation, it is an invention of the Bolsheviks. There are at least three nations in what is now Ukraine: Galicia, Little Russia and New Russia.

But was Ukraine not established on the basis of agreement with the Russian Federation like all the other ex SSR republics ?

New Russia - historical territory from Odessa to Kharkov, Russian-speaking more than 80% (in the Crimea - about 95%). We speak in Russian, go to the Russian Orthodox Church. Most locals believe it was misunderstanding our entry into the Ukraine. We want to be part of Russia again. Russia - our mother, Ukraine - stepmother. We believe our desire to integrate with Russia is perfectly legitimate .

But why Russian Federation let it happened in 1991 ? Have the Russian Federation kept quite during 1991 so that it can keep hold of other SSR republics bordering Georgia, Armenia etc ?

Europe for us - it is not a role model or a "promised land." Europe for us - a bunch of greedy bastards who tried many times to conquer and enslave us. Therefore, we are not on the way with the junta.

So you think that Russian nation is different from European Nations and as Russian Federation is termed as even Eurasia , you think that problems can be created in both the Far East and even in the Europe side of Russia. Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova and even Serbia all are becoming part of EU and getting military aid from NATO countries. Does Russian Federation see it as threat to its existence ? Or its just a part of International politics to keep power on International issues ?

Although we do not have anything against that Galicia determines its own way and went to Europe. That's their business.

Never understood why there is no citizenship concept in Europe. I always see like this that an Ukrainian national is always seen as Ukrainian irrespective of their nation and the same isn't applied everywhere ?

 

[vostok]

I have already explained to you many times the reasons why the inhabitants of New Russia devoted to Russia, not to Ukraine. Our desire to reunite with Russia due to objective historical reasons. And it's legitimate desire in the same way in which it was legitimate desire of Germans to unite or Turkish Cypriots desire to be independent from the Greek Cypriots. I believe that no one in this world can stop us in our reunion with Mother Russia (or at list getting independence from Ukraine).
At the same time, the inhabitants of New Russia in any case do not try to impose their will on the people of Western Ukraine. If they want to Europe - let them go, but without us. That is why the inhabitants of New Russia took up arms. We do not want to impose them our Russian faith, Russian language, Russian history, but we do not want them to try to impose their values on us. None of us would go to war if they were separated from the Ukraine and wanted to go their own way. We woould not go to kill them, but they went to kill us. It will not help them. New Russia will be free.

 

[Hindustani78]

TASS: Russia - Tests of 5th-generation control system for Russian missile forces to be completed in 2015

Tests of 5th-generation control system for Russian missile forces to be completed in 2015
Russia
December 16, 16:28 UTC+3
Previous reports suggested that the Strategic Missile Forces planned to conduct state tests of the fifth-generation automated control system by the end of the current year

MOSCOW, December 16. /TASS/. The testing of the advanced integrated automated tactical control system for the Russian Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) will be completed in 2015, Director of the Control Systems concern, member of the board of the United Instrument Manufacturing Corporation (UIMC - a Rostec subsidiary) Andrey Riznyk told TASS in an interview on Tuesday.
Previous reports suggested that the Strategic Missile Forces planned to conduct state tests of the fifth-generation automated control system by the end of the current year, which would make it possible to begin the troops’ equipping with elements of this system staring from 2016.

“In 2015 the tests will be completed - without doubt, this is first, and second, we expect to begin the RVSN equipment with new systems in 2016. The work will be tentatively continued until 2025, “Riznyk said.

According to him, the current RVSN control equipment will be 80% replaced by 2025.

Russian communication systems surpass Western analogues in functionality
He also said Russia’s automated control and communications systems are inferior to their Western analogues in design, but surpass them in functionality.

According to him, Russian products, including the nuclear deterrence forces’ tactical control systems are “at a very high level.”

“Our products not just keep up with the Western analogues, they surpass them,” Riznyk said.

According to him, the Russian products are larger in size and a little bit more “dated” in design, but their functionality is superior.

 

[Hindustani78]

I have already explained to you many times the reasons why the inhabitants of New Russia devoted to Russia, not to Ukraine. Our desire to reunite with Russia due to objective historical reasons. And it's legitimate desire in the same way in which it was legitimate desire of Germans to unite or Turkish Cypriots desire to be independent from the Greek Cypriots. I believe that no one in this world can stop us in our reunion with Mother Russia (or at list getting independence from Ukraine).
At the same time, the inhabitants of New Russia in any case do not try to impose their will on the people of Western Ukraine. If they want to Europe - let them go, but without us. That is why the inhabitants of New Russia took up arms. We do not want to impose them our Russian faith, Russian language, Russian history, but we do not want them to try to impose their values on us. None of us would go to war if they were separated from the Ukraine and wanted to go their own way. We woould not go to kill them, but they went to kill us. It will not help them. New Russia will be free.

So are these Ethnic Russians who wants to be part of Russia not Ukraine ? But why on first place during 1991, why those regions become part of Ukraine not Russian Federation ? Why Russian Federation agreed on the borders during the disintegration of USSR ? If once Independent Countries are established and become part of United nations then the sovereignty of those countries is accepted by all the members of United nations. Russian Federation has accepted Ukraine as a member or there was a dispute between Russian Federation and Ukraine in United Nations since 1991 ?

Charter of United Nations

Article 2
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. Charter of the United Nations: Chapter I: Purposes and Principles

 

[vostok]

So are these Ethnic Russians who wants to be part of Russia not Ukraine ? But why on first place during 1991, why those regions become part of Ukraine not Russian Federation ? Why Russian Federation agreed on the borders during the disintegration of USSR ? If once Independent Countries are established and become part of United nations then the sovereignty of those countries is accepted by all the members of United nations. Russian Federation has accepted Ukraine as a member or there was a dispute between Russian Federation and Ukraine in United Nations since 1991 ?

Charter of United Nations

Article 2
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. Charter of the United Nations: Chapter I: Purposes and Principles

In Novorossia living not only ethnic Great Russians (Russian), but Little Russians (Ukrainians), as well as Bulgarians, Greeks, Tatars, Moldovans, Gagauz and other nations. We are all united through Russian language and Russian culture.
I've already written about 1991. Then, to be held modernization of the Union, not its destruction. It is for this modernization people voted on two refferendums in 1991. There gonna be no boundaries between Soviet republics.
However, the Ukrainian authorities systematically deceived Russian half of Ukraine. Our main requirement was very simple - to return to Russian the status of the state language, as it was during the Soviet Union. Instead, the authorities who always went on about the West and took Russophobe position, performed forced Ukrainization. So much so, that in regions where Ukrainian language using was 1-2% there left no Russian schools, only Ukrainian.
After Maidan, we asked very little - state status to Russian language and federalization. It's very simple to do, there are many federations in the world - Canada, the US, Germany, Russia. However, instead of an agreement, the junta sent troops. This war and division of Ukraine is 100% fault of junta.
New Russia, relying on the fundamental right given by the UN - the right to self-determination, craves independence from criminal Kiev regime and the people of New Russia wants to reunite with the people of Russia.