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Pakistan unlikely to get access to sensitive Russian technologies | Russia & India Report

The diversification of Indian procurement has led to Russia dropping out of the tender for the supply of the light fighter. The transaction price could have been as high as $1.5 billion for the supply of 126 jets. MiG-35, which was leading during the entire time, but was recognized as “unfit” at the last moment, when the Europeans promised to give India the production technology for their war machines. A tender for helicopters was also lost: India opted for the American AH-64 Apache and CH-47 Chinook.


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At the time, Rosoboronexport stated that these losses would not affect the overall cooperation between Moscow and Delhi. Russia and India have a number of strategic projects for joint development of the FGFA Т-50 fighter. The Indian aircraft’s preliminary flight is scheduled for 2015. New Delhi intends to purchase 250 FGFA totaling $25 billion.

A contract for the supply of a batch of 40 Su-30MKI fighters is being executed. In addition, after the successful flights tests on the INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier, India agreed to purchase 29 MiG naval fighters in addition to the 16 previously built MiG-29K as part of the ship contract. MiG is also executing a contract to modernize 63 Indian MiG-29B fighters according to the MiG-29UPG standard, which will extend the fighters’ service lives by another 20 years.

During the two-day talks in Delhi, Rosoboronexport is likely to hold talks on upgrading of the infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2, T-72 and T-90S previously supplied to India and discuss the tender for the supply of self-propelled artillery, which involves an upgraded 155-mm self-propelled howitzer MSTA-S, undergoing testing in India. The howitzer’s chassis has a high degree of commonality of components and units with the T-90S tanks’ chassis, whose licensed production has already been mastered at the Indian Heavy Vehicles Factory.

“All of this suggests that the prospects and common interests in the military-technical cooperation between the two countries remain in place,” says Professor Academy of Military Sciences Vadim Kozyulin.

Nevertheless, the professor believes that Moscow is fully free to build military-technical relations with other countries, especially because in recent years, Russia and Pakistan have been engaged in a dialogue. For example, President Vladimir Putin has supported Islamabad’s application to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and announced Pakistan as Russia's important partner in South Asia and the Muslim world.


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High-level Indo-Russian diplomatic engagement

This year will be one of the most intense ones for the Russian-Indian relations. After Anatoly Isaikin’s visit, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu will visit Delhi in September; in December, President Vladimir Putin is expected in the Indian capital. Ruslan Pukhov is confident that these talks will have mutually beneficial results, especially because a wonderful background has been created for this in India.

Recent elections in the country have changed the balance in the parliament from “pro-American” to “pro-Russian.” The old partners have no choice but use this to their advantage.
 
RPK said:
Rosoboronexport stated that these losses would not affect the overall cooperation between Moscow and Delhi.
Every time this line is said I get suspicious that if really something is cooking between Russia and Pak.:flood:
I understand that Russian assistance is needed in strengthening Islamabad’s anti-terrorist and anti-drug potential but still some old memories like misleading India by sending old satellite images of kargil region during the kargil war,not sharing their technical know how , and also their dubious approach when it comes to spares, can NOT be forgotten easily.
And ofcourse the recent Mi-35 issue which has cropped up, only confirms how Russia,US,China,France etc etc use the India- Pak fractured relations to their advantage.
Is there a way we could circumvent Russia??
 
Every time this line is said I get suspicious that if really something is cooking between Russia and Pak.:flood:
I understand that Russian assistance is needed in strengthening Islamabad’s anti-terrorist and anti-drug potential but still some old memories like misleading India by sending old satellite images of kargil region during the kargil war,not sharing their technical know how , and also their dubious approach when it comes to spares, can NOT be forgotten easily.
And ofcourse the recent Mi-35 issue which has cropped up, only confirms how Russia,US,China,France etc etc use the India- Pak fractured relations to their advantage.
Is there a way we could circumvent Russia??

We have gone over and beyond the Indo Pak rhetoric, Pak has been relegated to a bilateral issue at max. The whole embargo thingy is all Russian media - one Russian chap says embargo has been lifted, the other says there was no embargo in the first place, yet another Russian says that no sensitive items will be given to Pak, yet another says Indo- Rus relations is one of the most exciting and important one right now.

And, in all this Russian rhetoric, India hasn't even issued a comment, while Pakistan is going crazy over the so called lifting of the embargo - so what does it prove? simply that we do not consider it important to give a comment or a view point. It's best that we do not waste time on such silly games.
 
Russia is making some money by exporting things to Pak, that are not interesting for Indian forces, or below the level of what they offer to us. That's simply in their interest, just like it is in our interest to get alternatives for defence products and not to be overdependent on Russia.
What worries me though, is the level of techs and capabilities they continue to provide to China. Su 35 and S400 are credible arms and even if they offer us at least better fighters and techs than the Su 35, the S400 is a credible threat to IAF and they shouldn't sell stuff that poses such a threat.
 
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