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Ruling coalition dubs PTI ‘clique of militants’, resolves to take action

White race and their associates love to play a both-side ping pong. Bacha Khan's role pre-1947 is a good example of it alongwith a large number of molvis who used to work against Jinnah sb. One time with leftist appearance, and one with religious appearance. And a third team, with f**ked up ideologies like Aligarh & Qadianis.

The general populace loose sight of it, and often does not have stamina for it.
This is exactly right.
As I have said previously before, there is no "us", only certain groups truly accepted Pakistan while others as evident from this thread did not, hence it's a dysfunctional country constantly divided on ethnic grounds


Cringe poetry tbh, doesn't even make much sense logically and built on some weird utopian Islamic idea...


The problems of your country are far deeper than any constitution or politics, the problems is the extreme ethnic diversity where it can be considered you are 4-5 nations in one, there is an extreme clash of civilisations, cultures, societies, mindsets and history.

It ignores a lot of realities to throw such people in together.
The cringe poet is Iqbal. In two couplets, he is essentially cursing your ethnic centrists on one hand and your liberal secular crowd on the other.

It may be cringe to you- but the strength of a Iqbal’s poetry defined the boundaries of the country you live in.

Ethnic diversity can be a strength or a weakness. It could have been a strength had the state been governed competently. It still can be.

Yes, the current constitution could have worked if it was followed, but it never was. A switch to a presidential system will work better. The population of the country will vote directly for a president and he can form his cabinet from anyone he chooses, not MNAs.

There need to be 32 provinces based on the former divisions. This will break the stranglehold of the enormous provinces we have now and deliver better services.

There need to be more safeguards to control the military.

There are lots of reasons why a new constitution will work better.
You can do all that within the framework of the current constitution.
 
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:rofl:

This all started when they refused the dissolution of assemblies in April 2022. Khan's popularity would have died had the elections been conducted last year.

Now every action is taking away their whatever remaining popularity.

Latest: Siddique Jan has been arrested! :rofl::rofl:
Well they aren't idiots they have ruled the country for 40 yrs.

They will ban the party or make it loose elections and everything will eventually calm down.

Now only thing is what if country truly ends up with food shortage

Hard to believe such thing can happen with resource rich country like Pakistan

Inqlab can't be brought up by few thousand people

Anyway I am surprised why uncle Sam isn't bailing out them.
 
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The cringe poet is Iqbal. In two couplets, he is essentially cursing your ethnic centrists on one hand and your liberal secular crowd on the other.

It may be cringe to you- but the strength of a Iqbal’s poetry defined the boundaries of the country you live in.

Ethnic diversity can be a strength or a weakness. It could have been a strength had the state been governed competently. It still can be.
Where can I find more of his poetry with English translations?

Also somewhat agree, but some ethnicities are far too ethno-centric for them to be compatible with multi-ethnic federations, hence the insurgencies plaguing us.

Heard TTP has managed to create a shadow government in Pashtun-dominated areas. This kind of stuff doesn't happen without support from the locals.
 
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Yes, the current constitution could have worked if it was followed, but it never was. A switch to a presidential system will work better. The population of the country will vote directly for a president and he can form his cabinet from anyone he chooses, not MNAs.

There need to be 32 provinces based on the former divisions. This will break the stranglehold of the enormous provinces we have now and deliver better services.

There need to be more safeguards to control the military.

There are lots of reasons why a new constitution will work better.

This is the biggest need with devolution of power to local bodies.
 
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Average ISI officer's IQ is probably 60.

And half of them are probably missing their left testicle.

I don't trust these guys with national security, we are fucked.
I remember reading here somewhere that one of the requirement for pakistan military enrollment is ( IQ less then 85) above that are considered unfit for army. The generals want people without any critical thinking that follow orders without any question.
 
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What the ****..
You can't ban a party that was ruling the country just a year ago.
It's not some fringe little organization, PTI is huge, there will be massive protests.
 
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There are several answers.

There’s no one in PTI to replace Imran Khan, but if there was they would kill him as well.

If IK is murdered there will be a civil war and PTI would become irrelevant. There will be groups out of PTI’s control who would be hunting down the generals and their crooks. It will be a free for all.

The only person I think of who can be a replacement for IK is Tahir ul Qadri. I attended the dharnas in Islamabad in 2014 and I was impressed by Tahir ul Qadri. He’s not in PTI but I wish that he’d been made President. It’s not certain if he’ll be interested. He’s a PhD and an expert on the constitution. He can help write a new one.
You were on the right track and then you just decided to drive off the cliff. Read and learn about Tahir ul Qadri. Man is not what he seems to be and definitely not someone you want near power corridor.
 
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You were on the right track and then you just decided to drive off the cliff. Read and learn about Tahir ul Qadri. Man is not what he seems to be and definitely not someone you want near power corridor.
Quick to the point Summary if you don't mind
 
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What the ****..
You can't ban a party that was ruling the country just a year ago.
It's not some fringe little organization, PTI is huge, there will be massive protests.
And that’s what they want. Protest where they can change the narrative and use lethal force.

Khan is highly blessed that every single narrative is proven wrong within minutes of them launching it. Even their death traps fail .

They plan and Allah plans, Allah is best of planners.

Quick to the point Summary if you don't mind
He was/is a great scholar but changed when became famous. There are YouTube videos of him claiming some stuff which has no basses in main stream Islam.

1) His dream about Prophet (PBUH)
2) Him standing near a new grave and saying out loud to the dead body that pray

Rest You can YouTube him. This is my humble opinion about him.
 
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You were on the right track and then you just decided to drive off the cliff. Read and learn about Tahir ul Qadri. Man is not what he seems to be and definitely not someone you want near power corridor.

I know there was a massive demonization campaign against him, but I’ve haven’t been following it.

If we’re looking for someone who’s never been criticized for anything, I’m afraid it is impossible to find such a person. Even if angels descend on Pakistan, by the time PDM and ISI are finished with them people will be throwing stones at them.

If Jesus came to Pakistan he would be crucified.
 
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Yes, the current constitution could have worked if it was followed, but it never was. A switch to a presidential system will work better. The population of the country will vote directly for a president and he can form his cabinet from anyone he chooses, not MNAs.

There need to be 32 provinces based on the former divisions. This will break the stranglehold of the enormous provinces we have now and deliver better services.

There need to be more safeguards to control the military.

There are lots of reasons why a new constitution will work better.
You are describing the United States Constitution which also embodies federalism. However, the linchpin of the US Constitution was the addition of the Bill of Rights which gave minorities constitutional rights. Without that you can't control the ethnic competition and domination which , inevitably, leads to civil unrest. Pakistan would flourish under a US-style Constitution.
 
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