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Mainland tourists are still, unfortunately, maintaining their reputation for boorish behaviour as more spread their wings and travel abroad

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 31 December, 2014, 2:39am
UPDATED : Wednesday, 31 December, 2014, 2:19pm
Amy Li chunxiao.li@scmp.com

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When a busload of Chinese tourists took a break at a highway toll station near Frankfurt, Germany, on an autumn afternoon in October, their translator and guide Linda Li told her charges they could use the toilet for €0.7 (HK$6.62).

"If you don't have the change, come to me," the veteran tour guide recalled telling them.

The mention of the fee caused a stir on the bus. Many were on their first overseas trip and grumbled that back home in China pay-to-use toilets cost only 0.5 yuan (HK$0.63). Several of the men decided not go to the loo. Instead, they walked to an open spot to relieve themselves.

Li shook her head and looked away - she had half-expected them to do so because it is common among first-time Chinese travellers.

But what happened next took even her by surprise: a well-dressed middle-aged man followed suit to pee in public.
"I was dumbfounded," said the tour guide of seven years. "This same person who refused to pay €0.7 had on the same trip spent thousands of euros on a Vacheron Constantin watch."

The incident captured all too acutely the conundrum host countries find themselves in: boorish Chinese tourists bringing them piles of cash but also mountains of problems. The visitors seem to have the means, but not the manners. Locals get upset, facilities get damaged, tempers are frayed, and in many cases other tourists turn tail when they know the Chinese are coming, causing a dent in earnings.

And their ranks keep growing. By November, more than 100 million mainland Chinese had travelled abroad this year, a record for China, according to the China National Tourism Administration (CNTA). For the whole of last year, 98.2 million went overseas. Asian destinations, including Hong Kong and Macau, continued to receive the bulk of the travellers - 85.4 million by November. Europe, their second most popular destination, hosted 3.4 million over the same period, while Africa, in third place, drew 2.7 million Chinese visitors.

Their burgeoning numbers mean bigger spending. The Chinese overtook Americans and Germans as the world's top-spending tourists in 2013, according to the World Tourism Organisation, an agency of the United Nations, (UNWTO). While the Chinese spent US$128.6 billion on international travel, Americans spent US$104.7 billion and Germans US$91.4 billion. The latest UNWTO data shows the Chinese remain the biggest spenders this year.

While this side of the balance sheet to Chinese tourism is welcomed, destination countries also have had to cope with the ugly side of this particular travel boom. Last year, a 15-year-old Chinese tourist defaced a stone sculpture in a 3,500-year-old Egyptian temple with graffiti, generating a stir worldwide and a backlash at home. Many Chinese cringed at the shame and embarrassment brought on them. The boy's parents later apologised.

In Hong Kong, tensions have risen against the Chinese tourists and spilled into furious name-calling. Anger reached boiling point earlier this year when a mainland couple allowed their two-year-old to defecate on a Hong Kong street. Mocking the mainlanders, a group of Hong Kong protesters sat on yellow plastic poos in a crowded mall.

Chinese tourists made international headlines yet again this month after four threw hot water and noodles at a Thai flight attendant. They were reportedly angry over their seating arrangements and the lack of receipts for their tickets. The CNTA promptly "blacklisted" the tourists from joining overseas tours offered by Chinese travel agencies.

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Unruly travellers still give China bad press. Photo: SCMP

Swamped by the avalanche of criticism against their citizens, the Chinese authorities are resorting to lecturing, cajoling and the law to change behaviour. The country's first tourism laws came into effect in October last year, tackling mostly domestic tourism infractions.

The authorities also published guidelines for travelling overseas, which state: "Tourists shall observe public order and respect social morality in tourism activities, respect local customs, cultural traditions and religious beliefs, care for tourism resources, protect the ecological environment, and abide by the norms of civilised tourist behaviour."

A month before that, the CNTA published an 64-page illustrated Guidebook for Civilised Tourism to educate the travelling public on social norms abroad, offering advice on topics from queue jumping to toilet use.

Even President Xi Jinping weighed in, urging his countrymen to behave overseas. "Do not leave water bottles everywhere. Do not damage coral reefs. Eat less instant noodles and more local seafood," Xi advised during an official visit to the Maldives in September.

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In the Indian Ocean island nation, whose economy relies heavily on tourism and which received 332,000 Chinese tourists last year, some luxury resorts last year stopped providing Chinese guests with hot water to stop them skipping meals in favour of cup noodles, triggering anger and calls for a boycott on China's social media.

"Sadly, Xi's speech has made no impact whatsoever on the tourists," said Jenny Wang, a Beijing-based Maldives travel agent. "The good ones are good, but the bad apples remain the same."

She added that many still did not tip, even though they had been advised to do so and told that service workers in the Maldives rely on tips to boost their meagre earnings.

Seasoned guides also point a finger at the cut-throat competition among travel agencies to sell tour packages. The low prices tend to attract lower-end customers who have not been exposed to the world through travel. While boorish behaviour broke all class barriers, those unused to travel tend were more likely to behave poorly, the agents said.

Li said that in recent years many mainland agencies would advertise tours at unrealistically low prices, sometimes barely covering the air tickets. To make money, tour guides would later be forced to collect extra fees from travellers, or take them on "shopping tours". Both practices have been banned by China's tourism authority.

On Ctrip.com, China's largest online travel agency, a six-day tour of Thailand from Shanghai was being sold for just 3,999 yuan (HK$5,000) last week. The package included a guide, meals, round-trip tickets and five nights' stay at "five-star hotels", according to its advertisement. A typical return flight from Shanghai to Bangkok would cost anything between 1600 and 2800 yuan.

"Travelling abroad is a luxury," said Li, who works for a top travel agency in Sichuan . "But the fact is we are selling our tours at such low prices that people on lower incomes and with little education can now easily afford them. Unlike seasoned travellers, they know little about foreign culture and customs.

"Most of the middle-class travellers I have worked with are educated, civilised and always well behaved.

"If we sell international tours for no less than 5,000 yuan, we will be able to weed out a lot of 'bad tourists'." She suggested China set minimum tour prices in law to end unfair competition and deceptive marketing.

Wang echoed Li's sentiments: "Those on a limited budget are usually rude and obsessed with taking advantages of others."

Tour guides say it is extremely hard to manage or "educate" the "bad" tourists. In the latest incident, the assault of the Thai flight attendant, the CNTA said it might also punish the tour guide travelling with them, but tour operators said this was unfair.

"If their parents failed to teach them good manners in all these years, how are we supposed to do it?" Li protested.

Travel experts also say that Chinese tourists tend to be unfairly tarred by the same brush as the mischief-makers even though many of the travellers behave impeccably.

"My mainland guests all turned out to be extremely polite and educated," said Liu Fong-yu, a lawyer who rents rooms at his home in Taipei to travellers on the popular online accommodation service, Airbnb.

"Once I took my guests to the Eslite bookstore, and they bought books by Haruki Murakami and Anton Chekhov.

"Two sisters who recently stayed with me chatted with me until 1am about the works of renowned Taiwanese writer and poet Chiang Hsun."

Retired engineer Shi Ming from Chengdu, Sichuan province, is a passionate traveller who tries to "observe and interact" with locals when touring. Despite her limited English, she made friends across 23 states during a tour of the United States in 2011.

During one flight she sat next to a native American woman.

"We chatted with the help of dictionaries and drawings," Shi said. "She shared her snacks and we exchanged life stories."

Li Jinglong, an assistant professor at the department of tourism management at Anhui University's School of Business, said: "Educating our tourists should be a priority for China. Otherwise, things will only get uglier."

China could start by encouraging its tourism industry to explore "education-based" tours, he said.

"In the US, Britain, Australia, and Taiwan, governments and NGOs have set up educational groups, for example in national parks, where visitors learn about nature and making a difference as a volunteer," Li said.

"In China, tourism is about making money.

"If we manage to teach Chinese travellers to respect and protect nature through such activities, they will become more civilised and responsible tourists wherever they go."

Other scholars, however, say courtesy begins at home. "We need to admit that Chinese people are rude abroad because they are rude at home," said Liu Simin, a researcher with the Tourism Research Centre of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

Many Chinese tourists were new to travel and had not mastered the skills of appreciating other cultures, Liu said. Like China itself, they catapulted from near-isolation to embracing the world in double quick time.
 
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Nothing particularly specific to the Chinese, Indian tourists too have the same reputation of being difficult when in a group situation (As individuals or couples, they are completely different).
Too true!
I wonder why the dichotomy in behaviour in Indians between when traveling in groups and when individually?
 
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This is not a unique trait of only Chinese, this is common when there is a large group of people. Besides there are many factors that can explain this --- 1) first time traveling abroad, 2) poor knowledge of local custom, 3) communication, 4) pack mentality. Japanese tourists -- when travelling in large groups -- can also be very rude to local people. Ive seen this when I was in the Philippines several years ago. The same can be said of even Korean tourists who travel in large groups. However, I have faith that as these tourists travel abroad frequently, are reminded of their demeanor, they should and probably will improve their etiquette.

I hate generalizations. So let's not generalize Chinese tourists; many of whom I've witnessed to be very respectful. Chinese tourists to Japan, for example, are very, very respectful. These generalizations are partial. Its the same how some people generalize Americans to be very rude tourists, but we all know that that's not necessarily true.
 
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You ,this guy do not make something for China you do not give up! Vietnamese has a lot of negative news in my hands, that's the reason of not posting here why Chinses know the principles to conduct oneself and the ones of treating others as you want to be treated. You wait for gotting banned.:coffee:
 
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Too true!
I wonder why the dichotomy in behaviour in Indians between when traveling in groups and when individually?


Mob mentality. Look at any airport (in tourist places) for flights going back to India. That place is pretty much chaotic, easy to find the gate -just follow the noise. Same on the aircraft, the crew are usually a very harried lot. Does not happen on flights going out of India as much.
 
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Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese all smoke alot. The room would be filled with the smell.
 
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I used to live in Singapore. And believe me traveling with Singaporeans (In a group) is just as bad if not worst. Especially traveling in poorer countries.

We once traveled to Maldives via Sri Lanka. We flew the Sri Lanka airlines. Some in our group were angry as they thought the airline had left behind their Scuba equipment. During the flight, they actually threw the face towels on the floor after using it. After reaching Colombo, the equipment were in fact all on board. Then on the bus, the group made so much noise laughing at the locals still using bullock carts.

Of course not all Singaporeans are like that.
 
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I used to live in Singapore. And believe me traveling with Singaporeans (In a group) is just as bad if not worst. Especially traveling in poorer countries.

We once traveled to Maldives via Sri Lanka. We flew the Sri Lanka airlines. Some in our group were angry as they thought the airline had left behind their Scuba equipment. During the flight, they actually threw the face towels on the floor after using it. After reaching Colombo, the equipment were in fact all on board. Then on the bus, the group made so much noise laughing at the locals still using bullock carts.

Of course not all Singaporeans are like that.

This is very common for people coming from richer environments -- traveling to poorer areas. For tourists with very poor social etiquette, they tend to do and say things that shame the entire group. Perhaps its because people's sense of inhibition goes out the door when they travel abroad. Many factors.
 
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Manners of some of Chinses tourists indeed are very puke.it is the fact and we do not deny it .But the Vietnamese post it here out of blackening China's name completely. He wants to do that continuely which quite the contrary blackening vietname's name.It is only showed Vietnamese nation is that liking to provocation and never reflect on theri own ones . Sorry
 
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Group tourism psychology especially when you are looking at travelers from India & China is interesting because they are basically traveling in a cocoon with almost no interactions outside that group. In India, such travelers may even prefer traveling with people from their own state sometimes because of linguistic comfort. Group tours from India not only have Indian tour managers, they even carry their own cooks or arrange for food in Indian restaurants (except for the free breakfast normally provided). they also have a very poor appreciation of culture (architecture they respect somewhat) and are usually little interested in history (Italy, Greece may be the exceptions because of their equally ancient history). Most such people are just not interested in history of the last 500 odd years because for Indians, that would be considered recent past pretty much. Palaces would interest them (with moaning of how much these chaps have stolen...:D), churches not as much (yeah..it looks like the last church we saw....). This lot is usually interested in food (you won't believe how much.. I once had a Egyptian tour manager ask about another bunch of people he was hosting - "did they come to Egypt to eat? You keep asking about the step pyramids etc & I have to worry about that & they keep asking the menu for lunch, dinner etc & I have to worry about that."....:lol:) and are more interested in bragging rights that they will have when they get home.

However, now there are plenty of very well traveled Indian tourists who offer a different, far more flattering image but the groups do behave in a particular manner & will for quite some time.
 
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Group tourism psychology especially when you are looking at travelers from India & China is interesting because they are basically traveling in a cocoon with almost no interactions outside that group. In India, such travelers may even prefer traveling with people from their own state sometimes because of linguistic comfort. Group tours from India not only have Indian tour managers, they even carry their own cooks or arrange for food in Indian restaurants (except for the free breakfast normally provided). they also have a very poor appreciation of culture (architecture they respect somewhat) and are usually little interested in history (Italy, Greece may be the exceptions because of their equally ancient history). Most such people are just not interested in history of the last 500 odd years because for Indians, that would be considered recent past pretty much. Palaces would interest them (with moaning of how much these chaps have stolen...:D), churches not as much (yeah..it looks like the last church we saw....). This lot is usually interested in food (you won't believe how much.. I once had a Egyptian tour manager ask about another bunch of people he was hosting - "did they come to Egypt to eat? You keep asking about the step pyramids etc & I have to worry about that & they keep asking the menu for lunch, dinner etc & I have to worry about that."....:lol:) and are more interested in bragging rights that they will have when they get home.

However, now there are plenty of very well traveled Indian tourists who offer a different, far more flattering image but the groups do behave in a particular manner & will for quite some time.

Interesting that you mentioned the descriptive imagery of the cocoon to describe these large tour groups. I agree with you ! For me, part of traveling abroad is to immerse oneself on the local culture , meaning, mingling with the local people, eating local food, enjoying some local fun etc. One of the reasons why i stray away from traveling in Japanese groups is because I prefer to experience the linguistic flare and see the local people and make my own judgments / impression myself --- instead of being told by a local tour guide (probably biased) and accepting what he or she said as truth. Your description of Indian tour groups is interesting because that almost describes Japanese tourists who go abroad in large groups.

I say -- be the outlier. Getting lost in a country is the best way to experience that said country. But that's just me.
 
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