RSS converts 200 Indian Muslims into Hinduism.

[Iggy]

Ah, I let my cover slide. Chal koi baat ne. I'll get back to work.

BTW who gave you the negative point dear? I never thought you were a provoking kind of guy!!

 

[waz]

BTW who gave you the negative point dear? I never thought you were a provoking kind of guy!!

Yaar it's a weird error that just doesn't seem to go away. I have had a clean chit for nine years.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Why do they have to wear Skull caps

 

[JanjaWeed]

There is a process of shuddhikaran. It does not have a 'convert' one to another ritual as Hinduism is just not Abrahamic but it involves one accepting Dharma as the guiding principle. And it is not a load of you know what.

Shuddhikaran is very much a part of the culture.. & even a devout Hindu would have gone through that process more than once! So it's quite understandable if someone has to go through that process to purify himself so that he can feel part of the dharmic religion. But I do have an issue with the term 'conversion' being associated with Hinduism, as there is no practice or provision for the same. As I said earlier.. you either follow the religion or return to it by way of Shuddhikaran...but not by converting yourself!

 

[The_Showstopper]

12 pages discussed over this....

Lure of ration cards led to Agra 'reconversion'?

AGRA: A day after a group of around 200 Muslims in Madhunagar slum-cluster here claimed they had "reconverted" to Hinduism, many of them on Tuesday said they were still Muslims, with some admitting that they had joined the RSS and Bajrang Dal-organized 'ghar vapsi' ceremony after being promised ration cards and houses. The saffron outfits, though, rubbished this claim, saying there was no inducement for "reconversion".

Farhan, a slum dweller, said, "If 40 people in saffron scarves come and stand on your head, you will do just as they want." Farhan was among those who had taken part in the puja, washed the feet of Hindu gods and also briefly worn vermillion on his forehead. On Tuesday, though, he said it was all for getting those men in "saffron scarves" off his back.

The re-conversion event was painted as "ghar vapsi" or re-conversion of Muslims who had Hindu ancestry. It was organized by the Dharma Jagran Samanvay Vibhag, an offshoot of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and Bajrang Dal. A 'shuddhikaran hawan' was also performed in the slum.

Bajrang Dal functionary Ajju Chauhan said the re-conversion had indeed taken place, and if the people were denying it, it was out of fear. "All these people have Hindu ancestors. They just did 'ghar vapsi'," he said, adding, "They were not lured by ration cards or houses. They wanted to lead clean lives."

District magistrate Pankaj Kumar and SSP Shalabh Mathur said no one had approached them in connection with the re-conversion event.

Ismail, who led the 200-odd Muslims in the event, said he offered namaz on Tuesday after no one from the saffron outfits turned up in their neighbourhood. "We're poor people and anyone can do anything with us. We can't afford to lose our lives over religion and conversion," Ismail said, adding that the promise of ration cards and houses had drawn many people.

"They first threatened to get us to vacate our homes. The land is owned by a Hindu. Later, they said that if we converted, we would get houses and better schooling for children," Ismail said. The women who had posed before cameramen on Monday appeared withdrawn the day after and would not even allow the kids out to play.

Lure of ration cards led to Agra 'reconversion'? - The Times of India

 

[utraash]

yeah Wikipedia...great source !
anyone can edit it and looks like someone did
during the partition period about 500,000 people died
half of them Muslims
as for the "invaders" razing your temples ask Modi to rebuild them !
I am just glad Jinnah got a separate state for us...!

Chalo rahne do ....

 

[anonymus]

I am largely irreligious personally...but I try to follow my Dharm. The present generation is much more sympathetic to Dharma than the past one. So I don't mind the flak Hindus are getting here.

My original post has undergone mod-edit. I had explained why it is better to have native religion of your country as majority religion, even if you are not interested in religion as such.

Original post was quoted by Judge and is still there.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Enjoy Ganesha - don't call us we'll call you

 

[abjktu]

12 pages discussed over this....

Lure of ration cards led to Agra 'reconversion'?

AGRA: A day after a group of around 200 Muslims in Madhunagar slum-cluster here claimed they had "reconverted" to Hinduism, many of them on Tuesday said they were still Muslims, with some admitting that they had joined the RSS and Bajrang Dal-organized 'ghar vapsi' ceremony after being promised ration cards and houses. The saffron outfits, though, rubbished this claim, saying there was no inducement for "reconversion".

Farhan, a slum dweller, said, "If 40 people in saffron scarves come and stand on your head, you will do just as they want." Farhan was among those who had taken part in the puja, washed the feet of Hindu gods and also briefly worn vermillion on his forehead. On Tuesday, though, he said it was all for getting those men in "saffron scarves" off his back.

The re-conversion event was painted as "ghar vapsi" or re-conversion of Muslims who had Hindu ancestry. It was organized by the Dharma Jagran Samanvay Vibhag, an offshoot of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and Bajrang Dal. A 'shuddhikaran hawan' was also performed in the slum.

Bajrang Dal functionary Ajju Chauhan said the re-conversion had indeed taken place, and if the people were denying it, it was out of fear. "All these people have Hindu ancestors. They just did 'ghar vapsi'," he said, adding, "They were not lured by ration cards or houses. They wanted to lead clean lives."

District magistrate Pankaj Kumar and SSP Shalabh Mathur said no one had approached them in connection with the re-conversion event.

Ismail, who led the 200-odd Muslims in the event, said he offered namaz on Tuesday after no one from the saffron outfits turned up in their neighbourhood. "We're poor people and anyone can do anything with us. We can't afford to lose our lives over religion and conversion," Ismail said, adding that the promise of ration cards and houses had drawn many people.

"They first threatened to get us to vacate our homes. The land is owned by a Hindu. Later, they said that if we converted, we would get houses and better schooling for children," Ismail said. The women who had posed before cameramen on Monday appeared withdrawn the day after and would not even allow the kids out to play.

Lure of ration cards led to Agra 'reconversion'? - The Times of India

So they are following the very same footsteps of missionaries and taliban terrorists??...Looks like all religious hyper actives(both darmic and abrahamic) are more or less same in this regard....

 

[vsdave2302]

Yesterday I show a discussion on the subject. The spokes man of JDU and SP were bluffing mindlessly. SP spokes person was threatning to take action. JDU spokes man bring in the point that how can you bring back beaf eater to Hinduism.

Bajarang dal spokeman said that they wanted to come back to their original religion so we halped. The most balance reaction came from Majid memon of NCP. He said that every one has a right to practice the religion of their choice. If they have adopted Hinduism will fully, you can not take any objection.

So they are following the very same footsteps of missionaries and taliban terrorists??...Looks like all religious hyper actives(both darmic and abrahamic) are more or less same in this regard....

No I show the discussion yesterday. Some body charged Bajarang dal to assure them voters I Card and Rationing card. He replied that they already have that and alligations are baseless. The people who converted were saying that we are willfully converting without any tempation or fear.

 

[anonymus]

Yesterday I show a discussion on the subject. The spokes man of JDU and SP were bluffing mindlessly. SP spokes person was threatning to take action. JDU spokes man bring in the point that how can you bring back beaf eater to Hinduism.

Bajarang dal spokeman said that they wanted to come back to their original religion so we halped. The most balance reaction came from Majid memon of NCP. He said that every one has a right to practice the religion of their choice. If they have adopted Hinduism will fully, you can not take any objection.




No I show the discussion yesterday. Some body charged Bajarang dal to assure them voters I Card and Rationing card. He replied that they already have that and alligations are baseless. The people who converted were saying that we are willfully converting without any tempation or fear.

On which channel?

 

[vsdave2302]

Yea man, RSS and India, no forced coversions. In Islam, giving up religion is punishable by death....so either these people weren't muslims or something else happened.

Considering the RSS terror network....i'd assume they lured the poor muslims into this.

It seems that you see too much of terror network everywhere and where it is not there. You need to go to some peaceful place and relax to come back to peaceful state of mind once again.

 

[anonymus]

So they are following the very same footsteps of missionaries and taliban terrorists??...Looks like all religious hyper actives(both darmic and abrahamic) are more or less same in this regard....

Dude,

More than 99% conversions in history has been by Sword, for Gold, or for marriage.

 

[vsdave2302]

so what RSS started missionary works .........Christians and muslims also do it

No misssionaries fo it covertly by cheating. This conversion is in open and right in front of media. Media guys talked to them. They said that it is totally willful.

 

[Dushmann]

So this was more of a media event and now political circus