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well exact answer is beyond your capacity to understand.in short you can say to some extant.
Do let me know when you have something positive to share.
i don't get you here.Muslim world is not imaginary thing.There is a hadith
"muslims are like a body,when one part is in pain whole body feels pain"
i hope you understand this unless you are shia.
I was referring to Zaid hamid's imaginary Muslim world and obviously not Prophet Mohammed's.

Talking of Saudi arabia, Pakistan is not short of Saudi's boot lickers and here is a video of Sir Lion KING Zaid hamid moaning about Saudi-India relationship.
 
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Bro you sound like a nice guy and please what ever I write is not directed personally at you.
Unlike egypt syria and the rest of the other arab world we do not look at ourselves as Arabs.
Here, check out the name of your country ; Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. and mind you Saudi araiba is the only nation in the history of mind kind to be named after a family.
No we look at ourselves as Muslims we feel for other muslims weither they be in Pakistan or Russia.
Thats what all Muslims say.
Pakistan is seen in two different views. One is of the Old uneducated Saudi who sees Pakistan not different from poor countries because he doesn't know their achievements. and the other is of the educated one who sees them as a model for the Muslim world and the latter is becoming more visible than the first.
You for got to mention the views of many RICH and educated Saudis who view Pakistanis and blacks as "subhumans".
And about the direction my country is heading I started a thread called "Future Saudi Arabia" in world affairs you should check it out.
Is their anytime line of when Non-Muslim's Military bases will be closed from Saudi Arabia?
 
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Bro you sound like a nice guy and please what ever I write is not directed personally at you.

Here, check out the name of your country ; Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. and mind you Saudi araiba is the only nation in the history of mind kind to be named after a family.

Thats what all Muslims say.

You for got to mention the views of many RICH and educated Saudis who view Pakistanis and blacks as "subhumans".

Is their anytime line of when Non-Muslim's Military bases will be closed from Saudi Arabia?

No it is not the first to be named after a family "Ammoiah" "Abassia" "Fatimia" should I go on??
And no you are talking about old generation Saudi Arabia and the red necks of saudi society somehow get the most attention.
The American "base" because there is only one now which will be closed after Saudi personnel learn how to maintain and operate the patriot defense system. which they refused to do so but the new deal says that Saudis MUST be taught by rayethon to operate it and that is why we pressured the Americans by the S-400 deal to get their stinkin base out.
 
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Do let me know when you have something positive to share.
Do you ever attend his program?if no then please at least once go in his program.
he inspired youth,he gives them a new dimension of thinking whats wrong in it?tell me exactly why you are against him?

I was referring to Zaid hamid's imaginary Muslim world and obviously not Prophet Mohammed's.

Talking of Saudi arabia, Pakistan is not short of Saudi's boot lickers and here is a video of Sir Lion KING Zaid hamid moaning about Saudi-India relationship.

see there are weakness and short comings in every system.you have to accept them.please don't be idealistic and have some tolerance.
concept of ummah is not imagenary.our master gave us this concept.
 
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Do you ever attend his program?if no then please at least once go in his program.
he inspired youth,he gives them a new dimension of thinking whats wrong in it?tell me exactly why you are against him?

Here is the reason:

Any one can cry, moan, loath about what is wrong; the essence of a real leader is not in loathing, but he will have solution and a vision, and he will
know a way of getting there, and he will take steps to get there.

Since the last 5 years of Mr Hamid's loathing, and making noise.

WHAT STEPS DID HE TAKE ?

PS: by that i do not mean attending and holding seminars, because to me that is glorified crying.

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Do you ever attend his program?if no then please at least once go in his program.
he inspired youth,he gives them a new dimension of thinking whats wrong in it?tell me exactly why you are against him?

Here is the reason:

Any one can cry, moan, loath about what is wrong; the essence of a real leader is not in loathing, but he will have solution and a vision, and he will
know a way of getting there, and he will take steps to get there.

Since the last 5 years of Mr Hamid's loathing, and making noise.

WHAT STEPS DID HE TAKE ?

PS: by that i do not mean attending and holding seminars, because to me that is glorified crying.
 
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Don't underestimate the Saudi's, their pilots have the best appetites.
 
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pilots are not problem
Pakistan airforce pilots are best in the world
 
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Here is the reason:

Any one can cry, moan, loath about what is wrong; the essence of a real leader is not in loathing, but he will have solution and a vision, and he will
know a way of getting there, and he will take steps to get there.

Since the last 5 years of Mr Hamid's loathing, and making noise.

WHAT STEPS DID HE TAKE ?

PS: by that i do not mean attending and holding seminars, because to me that is glorified crying.

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i don't understand one thing,why we have tendency of self destruction?why we cut our own foot?
you know very well where we stand when it come to information warfare.if a person is fighting for us on that front then why we are pulling his legs?why not we are supporting him?
you and myth buster have problem with him because he make lot of noise and no action sir g reason is he is not assigned for it at very first place.please ponder on previous statement for little bit.
for solution there is other guy Imran.believe me he is ideal for Pakistan.if you find some time read articles of Haroon rashid in jang.

one more thing,there are some people who really obsessed with strategic planning.
 
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i don't understand one thing,why we have tendency of self destruction?why we cut our own foot?
you know very well where we stand when it come to information warfare.if a person is fighting for us on that front then why we are pulling his legs?why not we are supporting him?
you and myth buster have problem with him because he make lot of noise and no action sir g reason is he is not assigned for it at very first place.please ponder on previous statement for little bit.
for solution there is other guy Imran.believe me he is ideal for Pakistan.if you find some time read articles of Haroon rashid in jang.

one more thing,there are some people who really obsessed with strategic planning.

You are a good man, I hope that you learn to be a good and CLEVER man soon.
Don't close doors, experience will teach you a lot; always be ready to take lessons.

Is there anything wrong with what I just said ? yet you know that both Mr Hamid and Khan, haven't learned anything from the past 5 years.

BACK ON TOPIC:

If every one is done being silly; it's time I invited my Saudi friend for some Gawa and Mandi !
 
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Do you ever attend his program?if no then please at least once go in his program.
he inspired youth,he gives them a new dimension of thinking whats wrong in it?tell me exactly why you are against him?
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see there are weakness and short comings in every system.you have to accept them.please don't be idealistic and have some tolerance.
concept of ummah is not imagenary.our master gave us this concept.
Hey buddy look, KSA and Iran have been threatening each other for quite a long time, Iran has better defense ties with India then Pakistan, Afganistan Pakistan dont get along, Turkey and Syria are showing some hostility so which Ummah is Zaid Hamid talking about? It is a Hadis that their will be 73 sects in Islam so their will be and their is nothing you can do about it to change it. Lets put it this way, ever single Muslim state is like a different sect meaning non of them are on the right path. Their is suppose to be only one Khalifa and Mehdi will establish it very soon.
Btw your reply pretty much dodged Zaid Hamid's video which shows that he is a Saudi's boot licker. Like i said, your posts regarding KSA is quite self contradictory to what SIR LION KING zaid Hamid preaches to confused youth.
 
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You are a good man, I hope that you learn to be a good and CLEVER man soon.
Don't close doors, experience will teach you a lot; always be ready to take lessons.

Thanks for nice words and advice sir.

Is there anything wrong with what I just said ? yet you know that both Mr Hamid and Khan, haven't learned anything from the past 5 years.
nothing wrong.purpose of Zaid Hamid is different than Imran.one is there to fight battle on information warfare front and other for political front.no one is perfect,we should give them benefit of doubt.
 
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Hey buddy look, KSA and Iran have been threatening each other for quite a long time, Iran has better defense ties with India then Pakistan, Afghanistan Pakistan dont get along, Turkey and Syria are showing some hostility so which Ummah is Zaid Hamid talking about?
first of all come to basics.concept of ummah is not given by zaid hamid.it is given by Messenger of Allah (saw).ok.
now what ever you have written above its true.but see the other side of picture in 65 war Turks,Arabs and Indonesian,Malysian came for our help.in 1998 after nuclear blast when we sanctioned Saudies gave us oil.why?they were our cousins?why we love Turks and why they love us?because of this ummah concept.
if europeans who cut the throats of each other for centuries if they can join hands just for the sake of economic reasons why we cannot form greater alliance?khilafat and ummah is sunni concept so please there is no need of Iran in any future alliance.Because Iranians dont go well with us,Turks and arabs.you mentioned syria and Turkey and there current tension.but why you forget history?From how much long asad and his family ruling syria?how much % are they of Syrain population?
in our region.Afghanis took shots at us by placing rifle at indian shoulders.you know the fundamental policy of indians?
simple if you want to be regional power you should become enemy to your immediate neighbour and make friend with countries who next to your neighbour.in our case we are there enemy and Afghan and Iranian are there friends.same is the case with Chinese,they have enemity with them but friendship with Russians. (Ktlya Chankia)
so if we want to make any move,wana make any alliance we have to take out India first.

It is a Hadis that their will be 73 sects in Islam so their will be and their is nothing you can do about it to change it. Lets put it this way, ever single Muslim state is like a different sect meaning non of them are on the right path. Their is suppose to be only one Khalifa and Mehdi will establish it very soon.
this is the problem.this hadith create a lot problem and confusion to people with limited knowledge.
Shah wali ullah reh.a mentioned all these sects.do ever read the Imam of four fiqah.if no read them you will find more differences (apparently) in them than in barelvi,deobandi,salfis.so where exactly is the problem?answer is limited knowledge.
deobandis and salfis say barelvis worship graves but tell me if ordinary illitrate person perform an act of jahalat does scholars are responsible for it.i know barelvies cross limits many times but still you cannot accuse father for the mistake of his son.
people chant there are differences b/w deobandi and barelvi,do you know what exactly are differences?miraj,ilm e ghaib na.
there are books from deobandi ulema like taq wia tul iman that create alot of differences.although this thing can be reversed if all agree on believes of imdad ullah mahajar makki and shah wali ullah sahab.
barelvis,deobandies and salfis does not qualify to be called a sect.they fall another category.there is a hadith for that category where prophet of Allah said "differences are blessings".
there are other people who qualify for sects like ahmadies,muhtazilla,khawarij,mulhid etc.
Btw your reply pretty much dodged Zaid Hamid's video which shows that he is a Saudi's boot licker. Like i said, your posts regarding KSA is quite self contradictory to what SIR LION KING zaid Hamid preaches to confused youth.
there are few things in zaid hamid that i like.nothing more than that.
 
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first of all come to basics.concept of ummah is not given by zaid hamid.it is given by Messenger of Allah (saw).ok.
Really? I did not know that :rolleyes:
now what ever you have written above its true.but see the other side of picture in 65 war Turks,Arabs and Indonesian,Malysian came for our help.in 1998 after nuclear blast when we sanctioned Saudies gave us oil.why?they were our cousins?why we love Turks and why they love us?because of this ummah concept.
First of all 65 67 and 71 was a time of the past because Isreal and India did not have such strong influences on the globe as they do have today. If today Pakistan or Turkey (god forbids) are attacked by either Isreal or India NO one I repeat NO ONE will come to rescue for anyone because political and military presser will be just too much on these small muslim states to help each other out.
if europeans who cut the throats of each other for centuries if they can join hands just for the sake of economic reasons why we cannot form greater alliance?
I would like to quote a member from WakeupProject.
(for a Islamic reformer to come i.e Mahdi the ummah needs to be in a state that requires reformation.
prior to the fall of the Khalifa, Qu'ran and Sunnah ruled and the Ummah was unified truely under one banner standing for truth, justice and strengh sure it has it issues but when the Khalifa fell the rot set in to where we are today.)
Another point I want to mention, in order for Muslims to unite and form one Khalifa they first have to give up on their sects and which will NEVER happen without the Mehdi and Prophet Isa.
khilafat and ummah is sunni concept so please there is no need of Iran in any future alliance.
You see this is the problem with people like you, full of hatred! Who are you to decide that? Iran and heck even Saudi arabia will be merged together as one Khalifa when mehdi arrives and thats when all these useless sects will be abolished!
Because Iranians dont go well with us,Turks and arabs.you mentioned syria and Turkey and there current tension.but why you forget history?From how much long asad and his family ruling syria?how much % are they of Syrain population?
Hi buddy, Turkey is even worst then KSA when it comes to talking of ummah. Attaturk was a British agent who assisted them by abolishing Khalifa and established kufr system of Secularism. Turkey is the only Muslim state which has the closest military ties with Israel. And dont give me that BS justification of Turkey to invade or attack Syria just because a crooked leader with his screwed up army is going nuts. Do you know how many innocent civilians will be killed?
in our region.Afghanis took shots at us by placing rifle at indian shoulders.you know the fundamental policy of indians?
simple if you want to be regional power you should become enemy to your immediate neighbour and make friend with countries who next to your neighbour.in our case we are there enemy and Afghan and Iranian are there friends.same is the case with Chinese,they have enemity with them but friendship with Russians. (Ktlya Chankia)
Agree with this part to some extent.
so if we want to make any move,wana make any alliance we have to take out India first.
Yes and thats where that lunatic zaid hamid is F-ed up to the core of his thick head! You think it only takes "allah o akbar" to destroy a regional power like India? Their would be no point of building a strong army by even prophet Mohammed PBUH if thats all was required. You have to be practical! In Pakistan's case we only have enough technology to defend ourselves and not for invading and occupying India!


there are few things in zaid hamid that i like.nothing more than that.
Thats like me saying their are few things that their are few things in Bush that I like. One "World Peace". ??? You have to judge a leader by his words, actions and intention and thats where they both fail.
 
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