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Why do you pretend,you know nothing has changed on the ground,all it has been said is every one wants the voilence to stop and if you ask the Myanmar army they too will say the same thing .what is needed on the ground is Muslims countries come forward with something to help the refugees on the ground and I don't mean arming them,I mean like resetting them or something and not to expect others to do the dirty job


Do you not have anything constructive to say, rather than this constant anti-Muslim Hindu bull?
 
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In a statement after a closed-door meeting, the 15-member Council "called for immediate steps to end the violence in Rakhine, de-escalate the situation, re-establish law and order, ensure the protection of civilians."

It sounds bad to you? @Aung Zaya

MM reponse: We agree! ;)
 
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so indian turd like yourself and india is setting the bar what would be a defeat for Myanmar genocidal regime? If that is so, isn't that duplicity double act by india which also supporting Myanmar genocidal act?

This whole episode should wake up all muslims how much Hindus are the number 1 enemy of them.
I would trust a Jew over a Hindu any day of the week.
 
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UN-chief can say whatever he wants....its optics consumption only, not reality/implementation-driven (where UNSC comes in). UNSC provides the implementation and what's been shown in the end is the huge dissonance between UN-chiefs words and what UNSC actually says as far as reality on this issue.

Kofi Annan and Ban Ki-Moon did such multiple times worldwide as well (in effect thats what a sec general does)....in the end effective power (even as far as the limited one UN has) lies with UNSC solely. They just gave middle finger to BD and big helping hand to MM to continue as it pleases by interpreting this lax statement as it sees fit (no sanctions, no binding orders/censure, not even hint of any enforcement).
Admission of "violence" and ask for humanitarian access is de facto admission of Myanmar culpability. Thus indians are accomplice of genocidal act in Myanmar. Only indian turd will try to overcome indian isolation on Myanmar by throwing out trash.
 
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"excessive force used by Myanmar during its security operation in Rakhine state and called for "immediate steps" to end the violence"


Do you not understand simple English?

It says "Excessive Force used by Myanmar" and calls for an immediate cessation of this.

Where did you make the connection that the violence = solely from security operations?

ARSA is not a state actor with UN representation, thus will not be named.

So of course the statement is going to be "we are concerned" about Myanmar security forces "excessiveness".

Makes no connection to it being the total sum of the violence being called upon to stop by "immediate steps".

Then there is not even one proposed sanction on MM behind this all, after all its impossible to do so with such a vague statement in the first place.

In the end you get to see how little this will mean, MM just going to keep going till it gets the job done with ARSA. Forget named sanctions (automatic veto by China and Russia obv), there wasn't even a threat of sanctions (which I was expecting tbh). Guess China and Russia are well behind MM in lending support where it counts.
 
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Where did you make the connection that the violence = solely from security operations?

ARSA is not a state actor with UN representation, thus will not be named.

So of course the statement is going to be "we are concerned" about Myanmar security forces "excessiveness".

Makes no connection to it being the total sum of the violence being called upon to stop by "immediate steps".

Then there is not even one proposed sanction on MM behind this all, after all its impossible to do so with such a vague statement in the first place.

In the end you get to see how little this will mean, MM just going to keep going till it gets the job done with ARSA. Forget named sanctions (automatic veto by China and Russia obv), there wasn't even a threat of sanctions (which I was expecting tbh). Guess China and Russia are well behind MM in lending support where it counts.


Only Hindu losers are supporting Myanmar it seems.

At least they have one friend in the world.lol
 
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Admission of "violence" and ask for humanitarian access is de facto admission of Myanmar culpability.

Only if you assign it to Myanmar in said sentence. Rather than expressing "concern" over "excessive" actions in a completely different one.

But hey you can argue and whine about the semantics all you want.

MM got what it wanted nearly 100% here (in realised terms)......no sanctions (we all knew that already), no threat of sanctions (the big bonus surprise for MM), no peacekeepers (expected again), allowing humanitarian assistance on its terms and thus freedom to continue action against ARSA and all that involves.

Only Hindu losers are supporting Myanmar it seems.

At least they have one friend in the world.lol

Its cool. As long as you physically get 1+ million of your "friends" back inside your borders and never to leave ever again.

China and Russia also pretty friendly to MM, damn not even a threat of sanctions. They stuck to their guns on MM. BD is just a country with opinions to be thrown away and forgotten...just like its tears mingling with its swamp flood waters.
 
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Its cool. As long as you physically get 1+ million of your "friends" back inside your borders and never to leave ever again.

China and Russia also pretty friendly to MM, damn not even a threat of sanctions. They stuck to their guns on MM. BD is just a country with opinions to be thrown away and forgotten...just like its tears mingling with its swamp flood waters.


If you had a bit more intelligence you would know that BD's real intention is to make the world see Myamar once again as a brutal rogue regime which is again the case.

BD is overwhelmingly a more powerful nation than Myanmar - 3.5x larger GDP and virtually ethnically homogenous.
 
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This whole episode should wake up all muslims how much Hindus are the number 1 enemy of them.
I would trust a Jew over a Hindu any day of the week.

Good. You should have listened to your fellow muslim (at that time compatriots even) about 1971 too :)

Now you lot are an eternal punching bag for us. You will see it with SHW now esp next year. Things are just getting started nicely.

If you had a bit more intelligence you would know that BD's real intention is to make the world see Myamar once again as a brutal rogue regime which is again the case.

BD is overwhelmingly a more powerful nation than Myanmar - 3.5x larger GDP and virtually ethnically homogenous.

No one care's about BD "intentions"....mostly because they stand in stark contrast to the realised action on ground.

Now say aaaah....more mouthfuls of reality coming....a few more 100,000 of them.
 
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Only if you assign it to Myanmar in said sentence. Rather than expressing "concern" over "excessive" actions in a completely different one.

But hey you can argue and whine about the semantics all you want.

MM got what it wanted nearly 100% here (in realised terms).

You are now posing as Myanmar junta spokesperson; "they got what they wanted"? Trying to redefine meaning of "concern" and changing the word "violence" to "actions"? Typical indian liars and propaganda turd. You do not have any logical or moral ground to stand but just trash talk.
 
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You are now posing as Myanmar junta spokesperson; "they got what they wanted"? Trying to redefine meaning of "concern" and changing the word "violence" to "actions"? Typical indian liars and propaganda turd. You do not have any logical or moral ground to stand but just trash talk.

Like I said, you don't have to go by what I am saying at all. Just watch what happens over next few weeks, months, rest of the year and next year too. Judge for yourself :D

All UN security council members voted against Myanmar govt. action and asked to stop violance. Looks like we have won diplomatic battle :D

In fact there was no vote at all, this wasn't even a resolution haha, just a press statement (and not even presidential one that gets recorded officially):

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/latest-myanmar-forms-committee-rohingya-49812947

The hollowness of this gets better and better the more you look into it. I was initially assuming an actual resolution vote like you are portraying here....but it didn't even get to that level, guess China and Russia gave the finger to that option :D
 
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September 14, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 03:15 AM, September 14, 2017
Come forward in a big way
Foreign diplomats urge int'l community while meeting refugees

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Ambassadors and high commissioners of different countries to Bangladesh talk to Rohingyas at Kutupalong and Balukhali areas in Cox's Bazar yesterday. Photo: Collected

Unb, Cox's Bazar

A group of foreign diplomats yesterday acknowledged that the world community has to come forward in a big way in aid of the Myanmar refugees in Bangladesh.

They were visiting the Kutupalong and Balukhali Rohingya camps in Ukhia upazila. A total of 63 diplomats, including 30 ambassadors and high commissioners, stationed in Dhaka, flew to Cox's Bazar around noon to see the condition of the refugees.

The Rohingyas fled to Bangladesh in the face of persecution by Myanmar security forces since August 25.

The envoys said it was a disaster of unimaginable proportions. The Rohingyas lost everything and left behind all their belongings while fleeing from the Rakhine State. Those who fled from persecution need urgent help and continued assistance, they added.

From near the border, the diplomats could see smoke billowing from the other side of the border (Maungdaw). They heard from refugees that villages and townships had been torched.

They also visited the entry points of refugees along Cox's Bazar-Ukhia-Teknaf road, including Ghumdhum area.

Foreign Minister AH Mahmood Ali, State Minister for Foreign Affairs M Shahriar Alam, Foreign Secretary Shahidul Haque and senior foreign ministry officials accompanied the diplomats.

Talking to reporters, Shahriar Alam said, “Although the Rohingya crisis is Myanmar's own problem, Bangladesh is being affected by it. Bangladesh is facing a fresh influx of Rohingyas amid persecution by the Myanmar security forces. The problem was created by the Myanmar government and they'll have to address it.”

He called upon the United Nations and other international organisations to mount pressure on Myanmar to take back Rohingyas refugees from Bangladesh.

Some Rohingyas told diplomats that villages and townships were being set on fire in the bordering areas within Myanmar. The diplomats saw that there was a sense of fear and insecurity in the refugees. They tried to provide the Rohingyas with a sense of security.

All the envoys lauded Bangladesh for providing aid and assistance to the refugees. The generosity of Bangladesh to provide shelter to a huge number of Rohingyas was widely acclaimed.
 
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September 14, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 04:33 AM, September 14, 2017
Come up with help 'regardless of politics'
UN seeks 'massive' aid boost for Rohingyas

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Diplomatic Correspondent

As the Rohingya crisis escalates into an unfolding tragedy, the United Nations yesterday appealed to the world to support the ongoing humanitarian efforts for the refugees “regardless of politics”.

It also said aid agencies have to step up operations "massively" in response to the inflow of Rohingyas fleeing atrocities in Myanmar, and the amount of money needed to help them has risen sharply.

As Bangladesh struggles to cope with the unprecedented refugee influx, two planes have arrived here with supplies for 25,000 Rohingyas, and further flights are planned so that 1,20,000 people can be reached in total.

One of the two flights that arrived on Tuesday was chartered by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). It carried shelter materials, sleeping mats and other emergency supplies.

The cargo has been loaded onto trucks which will transport the supplies to the refugee camps in Cox's Bazar, said Stephane Dujarric, spokesperson for the UN secretary-general.

A second flight, donated by the United Arab Emirates, came with some 2,000 family tents.

"We will all have to ramp up our response massively, from food to shelter," George William Okoth-Obbo, assistant high commissioner for operations at the UN refugee agency, told Reuters during a visit to the Kutupalong refugee camp yesterday.

"We have an emergency within an emergency with conditions in existing camps," he said, pointing to a mud-clogged road in the camp.

The call came as the UN Security Council was slated to hold a closed-door meeting on the deteriorating situation in Myanmar's Rakhine State at the request of Sweden and Britain.

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres urged the Security Council to press for restraint and calm, sending the 15-member body a rare letter on September 5.

He expressed concern that the violence could spiral into a “humanitarian catastrophe with implications for peace and security that could continue to expand beyond Myanmar's borders”.

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have also accused the UNSC of ignoring the “textbook case of ethnic cleansing” as dubbed by the UN human rights chief.

“We have made very clear our concern at the ongoing tragedy of the Rohingyas, people who have been forced to leave their homes. The reports we're getting, the pictures all of us are seeing are heart-breaking to say the least,” Dujarric told reporters at his daily noon briefing at the UN headquarters in New York on Tuesday.

“I think the entire international community should support the ongoing humanitarian efforts, regardless of politics. These are people in need. These are very vulnerable people who have crossed the border, who've, as we said, are hungry and are malnourished and deserve to be helped,” he said.

The spokesperson was responding to a question on role of regional players in helping Rohingya refugees.

“Are you disappointed that major regional players, including India, in particular, have actually sort of made their stand about this Rohingya crisis very clear and actually not come out and supported when their support could have been quite crucial?” he was asked.

Dujarric said UN's humanitarian wing have done emergency planning for about 3,00,000 Rohingya refugees. “That number has now definitely crossed that line. We are urgently appealing for more funds,” he said.

As of yesterday, an estimated 3,89,000 Myanmar nationals have arrived in Bangladesh in the face of what Bangladesh government and many others internationally called “genocide”.

In Bangladesh, the UN humanitarian agencies operating in Cox's Bazar called for urgent need of $77 million to assist people who have fled violence in Rakhine.

“The Response Plan, developed as a result of the influx of people to Cox's Bazar, outlines the life-saving support UN agencies and international NGOs are aiming to provide 3,00,000 people until the end of 2017, according to a statement of Office of the UN Resident Coordinator in Bangladesh on September 9.

About UN appeals of $77 million to cope with the crisis, George William Okoth-Obbo of UNHCR said that would not now be enough.

“The appeal that was issued $77 million on behalf of the aid agencies was based on the situation as it was about two weeks ago,” he said.

“There were only 1,00,000 people then. We are already four times that figure now.”

In the UN press briefing, spokesperson Dujarric said: “Whether it's UNHCR, WFP and other agencies, [we] are trying to get as much aid into the country as quickly as possible. Obviously, from what we've read out, we haven't been able to reach all the people that we need to.

“The added challenge is that a lot of people are crossing the border, going to makeshift settlements, or otherwise living outside more organised structures, which could make it easier for us to reach them.”

The UN spokesperson said the government of Bangladesh has asked the UN to help establish a new camp to house the newly arrived refugees.

He noted that the UN World Food Programme is providing food to some 70,000 people as they arrive in Cox's Bazar and to nearly 60,000 people living in camps and makeshift settlements.

The Spokesperson also said most aid activities in northern Rakhine state remain either suspended or severely interrupted, although the government is delivering some aid through the Red Cross.

“Most aid activities on the part of UN agencies and international non-governmental organisations across northern Rakhine remain either suspended or severely interrupted, although some assistance is being delivered by the government and through the Red Cross,” he said.

“The UN and its partners continue to offer support to the government to meet the needs of all affected communities and are liaising with authorities to resume humanitarian operations as soon as possible.”

EU STEPS UP ASSISTANCE
The European Commission announced additional humanitarian aid of €3 million to address the most pressing needs of Rohingya civilians.

The funding comes on top of the €12 million announced in May 2017 when Commissioner Stylianides visited Rakhine. "The European Union is providing further emergency humanitarian aid as the situation continues to be critical.

This additional funding will help provide emergency shelter, water, food and health assistance for newly arrived refugees in Bangladesh and people in need in Myanmar, as soon as humanitarian access to the latter is restored.

The EU continues to call for full humanitarian access and the respect for international human rights law in Myanmar.

“The immediate restoration of humanitarian assistance in northern Rakhine State is needed in order to address what is already a precarious humanitarian situation, and to avoid an escalation of the crisis. I thank the government and people of Bangladesh for their hospitality in sheltering many refugees. The European Union remains committed to support those who are forced to flee their homes during these difficult times," said the Commissioner for Humanitarian Aid and Crisis Management, Christos Stylianides.

EU High Representative Federica Mogherini in a statement in Brussels on Monday said that she is following the dramatic developments in Rakhine and at the border region in Bangladesh closely.

“The European Union has raised its concerns as recently as last Friday in direct contacts with Myanmar government members … the priority is now to obtain immediate humanitarian access again, and to address in parallel the root causes of the conflict by implementing the Annan Advisory Commission recommendations to this end,” she said.

We are in close contact with Bangladeshi authorities and are stepping up our humanitarian engagement there,”

INDONESIA
Four Hercules planes carrying 34 tonnes of aid for Rohingya refugees will arrive in Chittagong today while Indonesia's President Joko Widodo calls for an immediate end to violence in Myanmar's Rakhine state and promised significant humanitarian aid.”

Presidential spokesman Johan Budi said the planes are carrying rice, instant meals, family kits, tents, water tanks and blankets, have departed for Bangladesh from an air force base in the Indonesian capital.

It's the first batch of aid from Indonesia following discussions with Myanmar and Bangladesh, he added.

INDIA
India, which has been facing criticism at home and abroad for its anti-Rohingya stance, yesterday announced that an aircraft carrying first consignment of humanitarian assistance will land in Chittagong Airport at 11:00am today.

“This relief is coming for Rohingya refugees,” said an Indian diplomat in Dhaka, adding that Indian High Commissioner Harsh Vardhan Shringla will hand over the relief material to Road Transport and Bridges Minister Obaidul Quader.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi during his Myanmar visit expressed concern over “extremist violence” in Rakhine but did not mention the persecution of minority Rohingyas.

Later, the official spokesperson of Ministry of External Affairs on September 9 urged that the situation in Rakhine be handled with “restraint and maturity”, with focus on the “welfare of the civilian population alongside those of the security forces.”

MOROCCO
Morocco has sent humanitarian aid to support refugees in Bangladesh, said the country's foreign ministry on Monday. The Moroccan aid supply includes tents, covers, basic food and medicines, the statement noted.

Also on Monday, the UN refugee agency on Monday welcomed a personal donation of $1 million from Tadashi Yanai, chairman, president and CEO of Fast Retailing Co, parent company of Japan's leading apparel brand, UNIQLO.

The funds donated by Yanai will be used for UNHCR to provide life-saving humanitarian assistance to Rohingya refugees newly arrived in Bangladesh

September 14, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 03:22 AM, September 14, 2017
The situation 'catastrophic'
UN chief asks Myanmar to halt military action

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Reuters, United Nations

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres yesterday called on authorities in Myanmar to end violence against Rohingyas and acknowledged the situation there is best described as ethnic cleansing.

The humanitarian situation in Myanmar was "catastrophic," Guterres said, and called on all countries to do what they could to supply aid.

"I call on the Myanmar authorities to suspend military action, end the violence, uphold the rule of law and recognise the right of return of all those who had to leave the country," Guterres said at a news conference.

Pressure has been mounting on Myanmar to end violence that has sent about 370,000 Rohingya Muslims fleeing to Bangladesh, with the United States calling for protection of civilians and Bangladesh urging safe zones to enable refugees to go home.

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Asked if the situation could be described as ethnic cleansing, Guterres replied: "Well I would answer your question with another question: When one-third of the Rohingya population had to flee the country, could you find a better word to describe it?"

The secretary-general also said he has spoken to Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar's national leader, several times.

"This is a dramatic tragedy. People are dying and suffering at horrible numbers and we need to stop it. That is my main concern," he said.

The UN's top human rights official earlier this week denounced Myanmar for conducting a "cruel military operation" against the Rohingya, branding it "a textbook example of ethnic cleansing."

September 14, 2017 / LAST MODIFIED: 03:26 AM, September 14, 2017
Intervene now, take action
12 Nobel laureates, 15 other eminent citizens call upon UNSC in open letter

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Staff Correspondent

Twelve Nobel laureates and 15 other eminent global citizens yesterday urged the UN Security Council to intervene immediately to end the humanitarian crisis in Myanmar's Rakhine state.

"We call on UNSC to intervene immediately by using all available means. We request you to take immediate action for cessation of indiscriminate military attack on innocent civilians that is forcing them to leave their home and flee country to turn into stateless people," they said in an open letter to the president and member states of the UNSC.

The move comes at a time when around 3.7 lakh Rohingyas fled Myanmar Army's crackdown in Rakahine in the last two weeks and entered Bangladesh. More are expected to come while some 87 are estimated to have died in boat capsize on their way across the Bay of Bengal.

The signatories of the letter thanked the UNSC president and member states for holding the UNSC meeting on Rohingya crisis yesterday.

They urged the UNSC to persuade Myanmar government to take immediate steps to implement the recommendations put forward by the Rakhine Advisory Commission that Myanmar itself established last year under the pressure of the international community.

The Advisory Commission, comprised of mostly Myanmar citizens and chaired by Kofi Annan, recommended providing citizenship to the Rohingyas, allowing them freedom of movement, rights and equality before the law, ensuring communal representation, lack of which affects Muslims disproportionately, and facilitating UN assistance in ensuring safety and security of returning people.

"The fear became reality through the attack on Myanmar security forces by the militants. Unless, constructive effort to build lasting peace is taken, the situation will get worse which in turn may pose serious security threat to the neighbouring countries."

To implement the recommendations, the signatories suggested reappointing the commission members immediately to constitute an Implementation Committee to oversee the implementation of the recommendations, taking immediate steps to stop the outflow of Rohingyas, inviting international observers on a regular basis to visit vulnerable areas, taking back the refugees and building camps within Myanmar to rehabilitate Rohingyas upon their return with UN financing and supervision.

Of the signatories, 10 Nobel peace laureates are Prof Muhammad Yunus (2006), Betty Williams (1976), Oscar Arias Sánchez (1987), Shirin Ebadi (2003), Tawakkol Karman (2011), Máiread Maguire (1976), Archbishop Desmond Tutu (1984), Jody Williams (1997), Leymah Gbowee (2011), Malala Yousafzai (2014), and two Nobel laureates in Physiology or Medicine -- Sir Richard J. Roberts (1993) and Elizabeth Blackburn (2009).

Apart from them, 18 eminent global citizens -- former Malaysian minister for foreign affairs Syed Hamid Albar; business leader and philanthropist Sir Richard Branson; entrepreneur and philanthropist Mo Ibrahim; Voice of Libyan Women and SDG advocate Alaa Murabit; former Thai foreign minister Kasit Piromya; business leader and SDG advocate Paul Polman; director of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network Jeffrey D. Sachs; business leader and philanthropist Jochen Zeitz; former Italian foreign minister Emma Bonino; former prime minister of Norway Gro Harlem Brundtland; human rights activist Kerry Kennedy; business leader Narayana Murthy; former secretary-general of ASEAN Surin Pitsuwan; former president of Ireland Mary Robinson; Actor and SDG advocate Forest Whitaker, actor and activist Shabana Azmi; poet and lyricist Javed Akhtar and former chair of Human Rights Commission, Pakistan Asma Jahangir singed the letter.

"The human tragedy and crimes against humanity unfolding in the Arakan region of Myanmar need your immediate intervention. This is one of the decisive moments when bold and decisive actions are needed promptly when it is still possible to get it resolved," they said.

According to different organisations, the recent military offensive by the Myanmar Army in Rakhine state has led to the killing of hundreds of Rohingyas and hundreds of thousands displaced.

"Complete villages have been burned, women raped, many civilians arbitrarily arrested, and children killed. Crucially, humanitarian aid organisations have been almost completely denied access, creating an appalling humanitarian crisis in an area already extremely poor."

Referring to the huge influx of Rohingyas into Bangladesh, the eminent personalities in the letter said human misery created by such massive displacement of men, women and children under the threat of death is getting worse every day.

“Some of us denounced the previous spate of violence late last year and wrote to you to intervene. However, the situation has not improved. We urge you to take decisive actions to stop the violence against innocent civilians and bring permanent peace in Rakhine state.

“The arguments that the Myanmar government is using to deny Rohingyas their citizenship are ludicrous, to say the least. At independence of Burma from the British in 1948 and under successive governments, Burma recognized the people of all ethnicities within its border, including the Rohingyas, as full citizens, having representation in the parliament."

The military juntas in the 1980s had decided that Rohingyas were not Burmese. "Accordingly, they stripped the Rohingyas of their citizenship. They used military and political means to make sure that the Rohingyas leave the country. Systematic persecution aiming at ethnic and religious cleansing began."

The Nobel laureates and other luminaries joined the Secretary General of the United Nations in re-emphasizing that the grievances and unresolved plight of the Rohingya have festered for far too long and are becoming an undeniable factor in regional destabilisation. The authorities in Myanmar must take determined action to put an end to this vicious cycle of violence and to provide security and assistance to all those in need.

"A bold change in approach is needed by United Nations and the international community if there is to be an end to the cycle of violence against the Rohingyas. The government of Myanmar needs to be told that international support and finance is conditional on a major change in policy towards the Rohingya."

Propaganda and incitement of hatred and all violence, particularly state violence against Rohingyas, must stop, discriminatory laws and policies must go and the recommendations of Kofi Annan's commission must be implemented immediately, they emphasized.

The world is anxiously waiting to see that the UNSC is playing its role to bring an end to a humanitarian catastrophe and build peace in the region, they summed up.
 
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[B]@Nilgiri[/B]

What happened to China and Russia blocking such statements?

You are a delusional moron.

Next time, we will see @Nilgiri volunteering to work for China and Russia at the UN Security Council. Wish him the best of luck. Even his butcher PM Modi has been forced to change his stand. @Nilgiri, what are your next actions?
 
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