Roger Waters said: Israel is committing genocide.

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Yeah but Islam has a specific definition of submitting to God, the way Jews submitted to God has nothing to do with the way Muslims do now, Islam didn't exist, you're denying reality, Islam is only 1400 years old

You have to believe in God first, mister atheist. Atheists love idols and ideologies. What do you conveniently call yourself, a 'reform' Jew, 'secular' Jew, or a Zionist. Imagine Prophet David or Solomon calling themselves with those names. Whew. What an insult. You are way off track. There is only one way to submit to God, the straight path, without associating idols with God. Monotheist Jews when speaking without the politics have the same belief.

 

[TopGun786]

You have to believe in God first, mister atheist. Atheists love idols and ideologies. What do you conveniently call yourself, a 'reform' Jew, 'secular' Jew, or a Zionist. Imagine Prophet David or Solomon calling themselves with those names. Whew. What an insult. You are way off track. There is only one way to submit to God, the straight path, without associating idols with God. Monotheist Jews when speaking without the politics have the same belief.

Do not waste your time on this zio.
Like typical of him he knows all these things and yet he will pretend ignorance and will not agree.
Let him act like a lamb. And lambs place you know better.

 

[BHAN85]

No.
Islam means worship of God/submission to God. It has existed among individuals since the beginning of modern mankind, hence the word for God exists in every language, and every word obviously has a purpose behind it. You have a Jewish centric view because of Greco Roman history.
Quran 51-56 And I [God] did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.

Worship of God has nothing to do with Jews. It's a blasphemy and any religious Jew will agree.

I've a Jewish centric view because Jewish religion books are a lot older than Islam religion books.

If you see a book published 3000 years ago and another published yesterday, you can guess who copy who.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I've a Jewish centric view because Jewish religion books are a lot older than Islam religion books.

If you see a book published 3000 years ago and another published yesterday, you can guess who copy who.

That is how an atheist thinks.

We are not talking about an idea that is copied. Belief in God cannot be copied. Belief in God is primordial innate part of human nature. Quran is the final Revelation which affirms previous Revelations, Prophets, and scriptures.
2-136 Say, ˹O believers,˺ “We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.”

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Do not waste your time on this zio.
Like typical of him he knows all these things and yet he will pretend ignorance and will not agree.
Let him act like a lamb. And lambs place you know better.

I cannot assume he understands. I don't think he prays. When anyone rejects the belief in the Creator as Higher Power and Authority to whom we submit, they become like zombie. They just go on and on with their own ideas because they think God is just another idea.

 

[BHAN85]

That is how an atheist thinks.

We are not talking about an idea that is copied. Belief in God cannot be copied. Belief in God is primordial innate part of human nature. Quran is the final Revelation which affirms previous Revelations, Prophets, and scriptures.
2-136 Say, ˹O believers,˺ “We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.”

From a non-atheist point of view: Jewish people was the main and first tool of God to communicate to mankind.

 

[Corruptistan]

From a non-atheist point of view: Jewish people was the main and first tool of God to communicate to mankind.

Prophet Abraham (as) was not a Jew but a Southern Mesopotamian Semite from modern-day Southern Iraq. If anything he was an equivalent to a modern-day Arab more than anything else. Both Arabs and Jews claim to be sons and daughters of his. The first recorded concepts/religions that were monotheistic or monotheistic in nature also originated in the Arab world. Egypt, Arabia and Mesopotamia to be precise. In fact the oldest pagan religions as well.

In any case the whole idea of ethnic group x or y, having some kind of "patent" or "hot line" to God is ridiculous. The main reason why the Abrahamic religions gained prominence worldwide was due to them appearing in the most sophisticated, most advanced and oldest civilizations of their time.

I mean the whole concept of writing, agriculture, the first cities, science itself originated in modern-day Arab states, Fertile Crescent etc.

All that played a role in the Abrahamic expansion.

It makes sense why it was not the Scandinavians, Inuits, Aboriginals, Congolese, Mongolians, Turks etc.

Anyway God has sent 1000's of Prophets throughout human history. To all corners of the world at various times. Only very few in comparison have been recorded in history.

Regardless if you are a believer or not, West Asia was where humanity truly excelled and changed history for millennia upon millennia. The after-effects of this are still profoundly felt across most areas of the world to this very day.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I've a Jewish centric view because Jewish religion books are a lot older than Islam religion books.

If you see a book published 3000 years ago and another published yesterday, you can guess who copy who.

Scripturally Veda is older which states God is unseen without partners. Paganized Arabs believed in Allahu Akbar before the Quran. Allah was their chief or highest God, with lesser god partners that they associated with God. Likewise, Amun was the unseen Creator of the universe for ancient Egyptians. Proof from the Quran that Arabs would invoke Allah before the Quran Revelation:

17-67 And when adversity touches you at sea, lost are [all] those you invoke except for Him. But when He delivers you to the land, you turn away [from Him]. And ever is man ungrateful.

 

[BHAN85]

I remember that religion threads are not well seen by the mods of this forum, religion is a sensitive topic, that can offend easily some people.

Coming back to the original topic of this thread: https://www.stereogum.com/2215166/f...-the-worlds-most-well-known-antisemites/news/

 

[Beny Karachun]

hahaha. And Isra-hell never even existed.

Open your Quran

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Prophet Abraham (as) was not a Jew but a Southern Mesopotamian Semite from modern-day Southern Iraq.

He was from Ur, Iraq, which was Sumerian civilization. Sumerians were not Semites as their language was not Semitic. So, Prophet Abraham [as] was not a Semite. His descendants from Sarah [as] and Hajira [as] acquired Semitic languages, while his descendants from Qeturah [as] largely went East and remained monotheists ever since.

 

[TopGun786]

Open your Quran

Awww. Our favourite zio calf is back. Need another roasting?

 

[TopGun786]

Open your Quran

And yes Zios don't even believe in the same God about whom they say he gifted them this land.