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Risk of vouching for Turkiye in Op. Peace Spring

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Op. Peace Spring seems to have brought the Sunni gulf states and Turkiye at odds. KSA and the UAE have condemned the intervention and this episode adds itself as another event where these two power countries have butted heads agains Turkiye in the mid east.

YPG/PKK elements have found sympathy within the Gulf since they serve as a bulwark against Iran's growing influence in the Levant. This is the reason why the Israeli government has shown their approval of their cause as well.

Now here's the thing - Pakistan stands out at this moment as a supporter of Turkiye in the international arena. Most of the countries and stakeholders around the globe have instead either condemned and threatened Turkiye or at best maintained a neutral voice. In turn India has rebuked Turkey and adopted a stance that lines them up with the Saudi/UAE bloc.

There will be ramifications for this. Since we are not aligned with the gulf powers (-Qatar) in this respect we have widened the gap in our ties with them. One thing of specific mention is that the Kurdish separatists/Marxists have historically been very close to the Baloch separatist movement.

There are reports of the UAE's tacit approval of Baloch separatists. UAE in particular has been vocal in 'calling out' Pakistan for 'stepping out of line' (such as the even where Pakistan had informed its position in the Yemen conflict, the response from the Gulf states was primarily delivered by UAE minister Gargesh).

In the coming days we might see a surge in Baloch separatism to spike again. In the international arena PKK sympathizers are rallying up again to hurt Turkiye's standing. No doubt Baloch separatists may receive limelight as well given their closeness to these movements.

I'd say it was a mistake for Pakistan to take sides. People on the forum have shown regret over the Yemen decision as it had discouraged Gulf states from propping Pakistan's stance on Kashmir. In the near future we will see more hints of this widening drift and the ramifications of holding a stance in this issue.

 
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Bunch of anti-Pakistan, pro-Indian "Balochi" twitter accounts does not mean sh*t

Pakistan stands firmly behind Turkish action to protect their borders. Average Kurds and average Turks...especially average conservative Turks...are natural allies against the marxists, secularists traitors (whether PKK, YPD, or elsewhere inside or outside Turkey ;) )


Turks and kurds should never forget that! Erdogan, hopefully, also do not lose sight of the long term Turkish worldview which was constructed post 2010. Circumstances have set Turkish and Erdogan's successful policies back...but lets hope for the best.
 
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Nahh, not a bad decision of taking sides with Turkey on this issue. These are hard times and who are the ones which have sided with Pakistan on Kashmir? China and Turkey meanwhile UAE awarded Modi with a peace prize.... So its Arabs who have to make a decision that they want a Muslim brother who will even die for them or a Hindu banniya because of potential increase in wealth.
 
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Who cares about what the US client states have to say about the issue anyways.
There is only one state that could stop Turkey and it doesnt really care it seem.
 
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Op. Peace Spring seems to have brought the Sunni gulf states and Turkiye at odds. KSA and the UAE have condemned the intervention and this episode adds itself as another event where these two power countries have butted heads agains Turkiye in the mid east.

YPG/PKK elements have found sympathy within the Gulf since they serve as a bulwark against Iran's growing influence in the Levant. This is the reason why the Israeli government has shown their approval of their cause as well.

Now here's the thing - Pakistan stands out at this moment as a supporter of Turkiye in the international arena. Most of the countries and stakeholders around the globe have instead either condemned and threatened Turkiye or at best maintained a neutral voice. In turn India has rebuked Turkey and adopted a stance that lines them up with the Saudi/UAE bloc.

There will be ramifications for this. Since we are not aligned with the gulf powers (-Qatar) in this respect we have widened the gap in our ties with them. One thing of specific mention is that the Kurdish separatists/Marxists have historically been very close to the Baloch separatist movement.

There are reports of the UAE's tacit approval of Baloch separatists. UAE in particular has been vocal in 'calling out' Pakistan for 'stepping out of line' (such as the even where Pakistan had informed its position in the Yemen conflict, the response from the Gulf states was primarily delivered by UAE minister Gargesh).

In the coming days we might see a surge in Baloch separatism to spike again. In the international arena PKK sympathizers are rallying up again to hurt Turkiye's standing. No doubt Baloch separatists may receive limelight as well given their closeness to these movements.

I'd say it was a mistake for Pakistan to take sides. People on the forum have shown regret over the Yemen decision as it had discouraged Gulf states from propping Pakistan's stance on Kashmir. In the near future we will see more hints of this widening drift and the ramifications of holding a stance in this issue.

indian crazy obsessed bitch! even protesting against turkey they had to mention baaaaluuuchistan!
 
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No one regret over Yemen. Unless GCC offered to deport every Indian and replace them with Pakistanis along with cutting all ties. Then maybe it would have been worth it.
This decision that we made has set us on a road now. The mid east is turning into a powder keg with alliances being drawn up not too different from how Europe was before WW1 (during the balkan wars).

A rift is present between Turkey and the gulf states and we have picked our mark. We may run into a situation where our once close friends openly become our adversaries - all because we had decided to pick a side. Are we ready to face that scenario?
 
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This Zeenab Baloch account is run from India by Indians. They've created a multitude of fake 'Balochi' accounts to build false narratives.

If you probe far enough, you will find accounts like 'Zeenab Baloch' liking and retweeting posts in Sanskrit & other gangu languages.

These gangudeshis will adopt any deceitful measures to whinge and cry in their own gomutra infested echo chambers.
 
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We will stand against oppression and with the righteous, wherever that may lead us to, we will take this course.

We did not stand with the GCC on Yemen because they were wrong. All the Muslim nations of the world should have stood by the people of Kashmir but some chose to honour Modi instead.

Which leader supported the helpless Kashmiri's and Palestinian at UNGA?

Also, how do the GCC treat us common Pakistanis? How do the Turks treat us? For this reason alone we would side with the Turks.

If it means that we both stand alone so be it.
 
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LOL Is that sentient turd tariq fateh !
 
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I don't care, Arab feifdoms and Hindutva are brothers. They have created their new Ummah after Modi's Kashmir move. Imran Khan is steering Pakistan's independent foreign policy for the first time in long history, our positions will hurt us in short term but we will be respected by all in the end.
 
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