Riot for Votes, the politicization of bloodshed.

[Iggy]

Secularism cannot work in the long run because it is an artificial Western construct and not the natural choice of the Indian people. Alien philosophies may work for a while but cannot sustain . What makes you think that India can be a secular country in spirit when hardly any other Asian country is?

What is the natural choice of Indian people then?

 

[Indianpatriot1]

What is the natural choice of Indian people then?

Historically, Hindus have been tolerant but never secular in the western sense of separating religion from political space. In Hinduism, a ruler must promote and propagate dharma.

 

[Iggy]

Historically, Hindus have been tolerant but never secular in the western sense of separating religion from political space. In Hinduism, a ruler must promote and propagate dharma.

Let me ask you what are the benefits of bringing religion into politics?

 

[Bang Galore]

Secularism cannot work in the long run because it is an artificial Western construct and not the natural choice of the Indian people. Alien philosophies may work for a while but cannot sustain . What makes you think that India can be a secular country in spirit when hardly any other Asian country is?

Everything is artificial, if one was meant to wear clothes by nature, I'm sure it would have been provided for. It isn't, we do it anyways. What else is an alien, artificial construct....? Democracy.....? Elections...? People picking their leaders...? India as a nation state...? Equal rights for women....? Problem with picking & choosing arguments is that you don't get to be the only one to pick & others have no compulsion to accept what you pick.... Secularism will stay because it is in the constitution. Period.

Historically, Hindus have been tolerant but never secular in the western sense of separating religion from political space. In Hinduism, a ruler must promote and propagate dharma.

Tolerant of whom? I'm sure there are many Dalits and lower castes who disagree.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Secularism cannot work in the long run because it is an artificial Western construct and not the natural choice of the Indian people. Alien philosophies may work for a while but cannot sustain . What makes you think that India can be a secular country in spirit when hardly any other Asian country is?

A right winger talking about secularism is exactly the same as Adolf hitler talking about the jews.

 

[Indianpatriot1]

Everything is artificial, if one was meant to wear clothes by nature, I'm sure it would have been provided for. It isn't, we do it anyways. What else is an alien, artificial construct....? Democracy.....? Elections...? People picking their leaders...? India as a nation state...? Equal rights for women....? Problem with picking & choosing arguments is that you don't get to be the only one to pick & others have no compulsion to accept what you pick.... Secularism will stay because it is in the constitution. Period.

Let's see....going forward. History is evidence that alien ideologies do not sustain....constitution or no constitution. At the best you may be left with a secular shell with no substance...which is where it has already arrived.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Let me ask you what are the benefits of bringing religion into politics?

Oh there are many benifits all right- you blame it all on 'seculars', day dream and even without smoking pot imaging if only India were a hindu rashtra all corruption would go, rapes would stop, poverty would end etc.

 

[Indianpatriot1]

Let me ask you what are the benefits of bringing religion into politics?

Politics is a part of religion at public level. Hinduism does not separate the church and the state.

 

[Bang Galore]

Let's see....going forward. History is evidence that alien ideologies do not sustain....constitution or no constitution. At the best you may be left with a secular shell with no substance...which is where it has already arrived.

I have no problem waiting & seeing. I'm in no hurry to go into a non-secular India.

 

[kurup]

So BJP did not call for the Mahapanchayat to play Vote bank politics- it was for defence of innocent hindu wives and daughters? And BJP MP Som put up that fake video unknowingly to spread communal harmony- not to get hindu votes by spreading discord?

The discord were spread already by the SP , BSP and congress leaders .

And I am in favor of arresting every single one who gave hate speeches .

A right winger talking about secularism is exactly the same as Adolf hitler talking about the jews.

A congress supporter talking about secularism is exactly same as Tytler taking about Sikhs .

 

[Guynextdoor2]

The discord were spread already by the SP , BSP and congress leaders .

And I am in favor of arresting every single one who gave hate speeches .

Oh great...so BJP was not involved at all....great bro, can I you my address?

 

[Indianpatriot1]

I have no problem waiting & seeing. I'm in no hurry to go into a non-secular India.

You may never realize it. As I said, the shell may remain....do you think India is really secular apart from a political facade?

 

[kurup]

Now that's a reasonable thing to say, and the true solution is to find true secularists, not reject secularism because of fakers and turn to full fledged communalism.

Then the question is who is the true secularist because there is none in India .

Oh great...so BJP was not involved at all....great bro, can I you my address?

What in arresting every single one of them was so difficult to comprehend ???

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Then the question is who is the true secularist because there is none in India .



What in arresting every single one of them was so difficult to comprehend ???

Oh BJP really was missing in your list despite your general statement- in any case the KEY question is can I send you my address?

 

[Iggy]

Politics is a part of religion at public level. Hinduism does not separate the church and the state.

I asked you what are the benefits, not excuses..