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You guys won't make it public fearing it would demoralise your army and make general public resentful.


A bit like how you bengalis also claim that 50,000 Pakistani soldiers killed 3 million bengalis and raped 10 million bengalis women in 6 weeks in 1971?
 
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A bit like how you bengalis also claim that 50,000 Pakistani soldiers killed 3 million bengalis and raped 10 million bengalis women in 6 weeks in 1971?
You cannot refute it with your findings. So better stay away.
 
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https://dailytimes.com.pk/329368/revisiting-the-tragedy-of-december-1971/

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A man entered the commanding general’s chamber and handed him a chit: It read, “My Dear Abdullah, we have got you surrounded…Maj.-Gen. Gandharv Nagra.” The commanding general recognised the name. The two had been class mates at the Indian Military Academy. But how had the Indian forces broken through the security perimeter around Dhaka so quickly?

Lt.-Gen. A. A. K. Niazi was no longer his jovial self. When the situation had turned dire, Niazi had broken down in the company of other officers. He had let out a loud scream and begun sobbing like a baby.

This tale of woe is recounted in the memoirs of Maj.-Gen. Rao Farman Ali Khan, advisor to the governor on civil-military relations, How Pakistan Got Divided.

On December 16, 1971, East Pakistan broke away, making Pakistan the first major country that gained independence after the Second World War to break up into two.

The East had been simmering with a civil war since March when General Yahya Khan, the military ruler of Pakistan, refused to convene the National Assembly in Dhaka, preventing the Awami League led by Shaikh Mujib from forming a democratic government even though it had an absolute majority in parliament. Fighting intensified as the months progressed. Pakistan flew in two additional divisions to assist the sole division that was posted in the East. But they came without the usual complement of armor and artillery.

As the violence progressed, refugees began to stream into Indian Bengal and sometime in November Indian forces began to unleash an artillery barrage into East Pakistan. Pakistan upped the ante on the December 3 in the West when it sent its fighter bombers to raid Indian airfields in the West. The attack was anticipated and did not cause much harm to the IAF. Instead, it backfired, by giving India the excuse to unleash its full fury on the Pakistani army in the East.

In less than two weeks, the Eastern Garrison surrendered unconditionally. Its troops were fatigued by months of fighting an insurgency and badly outnumbered vis-à-vis India. The results were a foregone conclusion.

Rao Farman enumerates the reasons for the breakup. First, there was the result of the national elections of 1970. East Pakistanis accounted for 55 percent of the population but felt that the West, where the military and civil of the country resided, treated them like a colony of the West. They contributed a large share of the export earnings but their per capita income was significantly lower. Thus, the Awami League, won all but 2 seats in East Pakistan and that gave them 160 seats, an absolute majority in the National Assembly.

Second, General Yahya Khan, the military ruler, cancelled the session of the national assembly in Dhaka in March. He did this on the urging of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the chairman of the Pakistan People’s Party which was based entirely in the West. Bhutto connived with senior generals in the army to put pressure on Yahya to not convene the assembly because it would guarantee the transfer of power to the east, an unimaginable catastrophe for the generals and top bureaucrats in the West.

Third, when the situation deteriorated, he was advised by the governor, Vice Admiral Ahsan, and the military commander in the east, Maj.-Gen. Sahabzada Yaqub, to come and visit Shaikh Mujib, the head of the Awami League, in order to resolve the impasse. Yahya refused and would never again visit the East. Both the admiral and the general resigned their posts. Replacements were named, including Lt.-Gen. Tikka Khan and later Lt.-Gen. Niazi.

Fourth, a civil war broke out in the East when the army resorted to military action to establish the “writ of the state.” Members of the Awami League were termed “miscreants” and arrested, jailed or shot dead. By the end of March, the authority of the Pakistan government had ceased to exist. All governmental departments were reporting to Mujib.

Fifth, the army’s 45,000 troops were unable to quell the open rebellion that had broken out among the 75 million people of East Pakistan. Hindu refugees were spilling over into India, making the situation untenable. War with India was imminent.

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Sixth, the generals were deluded into thinking that they had the situation under control and that should India attack in the East, they would open a second front in the West and neutralise the Indian operation. They appeared to be believing in a fool’s paradise. He had done his best to present an accurate assessment of the situation to them. But the hawks in the West dismissed him for being a dove, as they had dismissed Ahsan and Yaqub.

Seventh, once military operations began, India neutralised the single PAF squadron in the East by blasting the runways. Only six helicopters remained in flying condition. The artillery equipment was obsolete with a limited range.

And, eighth, to compound matters, Niazi choose to deploy the troops in “penny packets” around the long border with India, a point also noted by Captain (later brigadier) Siddiq Salik in his memoir, Witness to Surrender.

When the day of reckoning arrived, and the two generals met, Niazi began by reciting Urdu couplets to impress Nagra. When Nagra replied that he had a master’s degree in Persian from Government College, Lahore, Niazi switched to Punjabi.

After the surrender, he retreated to the tents to party with the Indian generals. The shame of surrender was no longer on his shoulders and he began to exchange ribald jokes with his former classmates. Rao Farman says he lost whatever little respect he had for Niazi at that time.

With pathos, Rao Farman concludes, “The [Army’s] Higher Command … lacked sense of direction, political sagacity and sound military judgment…Though it took another nine months to take shape, the breakup of the country was the direct …consequence of two major political decisions: first, to postpone the National Assembly session and second, to launch military action.”

The general, who was later the minister of petroleum in General Zia’s government, does not blame India for the breakup of Pakistan, unlike Yahya Khan (and many others) who blamed it “on the treachery of the Indians.” Nor does he put the blame squarely on Bhutto. After all, the country was under military rule.

The book is a must-read, not because it’s a scholarly work replete with footnotes and sources, but because it’s written by a general officer of the Pakistani army who was on the ground during the war and who saw history in the making.

Published in Daily Times, December 4th 2018.
https://dailytimes.com.pk/329368/revisiting-the-tragedy-of-december-1971/

Rao-Farman-Ali-3.jpg


A man entered the commanding general’s chamber and handed him a chit: It read, “My Dear Abdullah, we have got you surrounded…Maj.-Gen. Gandharv Nagra.” The commanding general recognised the name. The two had been class mates at the Indian Military Academy. But how had the Indian forces broken through the security perimeter around Dhaka so quickly?

Lt.-Gen. A. A. K. Niazi was no longer his jovial self. When the situation had turned dire, Niazi had broken down in the company of other officers. He had let out a loud scream and begun sobbing like a baby.

This tale of woe is recounted in the memoirs of Maj.-Gen. Rao Farman Ali Khan, advisor to the governor on civil-military relations, How Pakistan Got Divided.

On December 16, 1971, East Pakistan broke away, making Pakistan the first major country that gained independence after the Second World War to break up into two.

The East had been simmering with a civil war since March when General Yahya Khan, the military ruler of Pakistan, refused to convene the National Assembly in Dhaka, preventing the Awami League led by Shaikh Mujib from forming a democratic government even though it had an absolute majority in parliament. Fighting intensified as the months progressed. Pakistan flew in two additional divisions to assist the sole division that was posted in the East. But they came without the usual complement of armor and artillery.

As the violence progressed, refugees began to stream into Indian Bengal and sometime in November Indian forces began to unleash an artillery barrage into East Pakistan. Pakistan upped the ante on the December 3 in the West when it sent its fighter bombers to raid Indian airfields in the West. The attack was anticipated and did not cause much harm to the IAF. Instead, it backfired, by giving India the excuse to unleash its full fury on the Pakistani army in the East.

In less than two weeks, the Eastern Garrison surrendered unconditionally. Its troops were fatigued by months of fighting an insurgency and badly outnumbered vis-à-vis India. The results were a foregone conclusion.

Rao Farman enumerates the reasons for the breakup. First, there was the result of the national elections of 1970. East Pakistanis accounted for 55 percent of the population but felt that the West, where the military and civil of the country resided, treated them like a colony of the West. They contributed a large share of the export earnings but their per capita income was significantly lower. Thus, the Awami League, won all but 2 seats in East Pakistan and that gave them 160 seats, an absolute majority in the National Assembly.

Second, General Yahya Khan, the military ruler, cancelled the session of the national assembly in Dhaka in March. He did this on the urging of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the chairman of the Pakistan People’s Party which was based entirely in the West. Bhutto connived with senior generals in the army to put pressure on Yahya to not convene the assembly because it would guarantee the transfer of power to the east, an unimaginable catastrophe for the generals and top bureaucrats in the West.

Third, when the situation deteriorated, he was advised by the governor, Vice Admiral Ahsan, and the military commander in the east, Maj.-Gen. Sahabzada Yaqub, to come and visit Shaikh Mujib, the head of the Awami League, in order to resolve the impasse. Yahya refused and would never again visit the East. Both the admiral and the general resigned their posts. Replacements were named, including Lt.-Gen. Tikka Khan and later Lt.-Gen. Niazi.

Fourth, a civil war broke out in the East when the army resorted to military action to establish the “writ of the state.” Members of the Awami League were termed “miscreants” and arrested, jailed or shot dead. By the end of March, the authority of the Pakistan government had ceased to exist. All governmental departments were reporting to Mujib.

Fifth, the army’s 45,000 troops were unable to quell the open rebellion that had broken out among the 75 million people of East Pakistan. Hindu refugees were spilling over into India, making the situation untenable. War with India was imminent.

Rao-Farman-Ali-2.jpg


Sixth, the generals were deluded into thinking that they had the situation under control and that should India attack in the East, they would open a second front in the West and neutralise the Indian operation. They appeared to be believing in a fool’s paradise. He had done his best to present an accurate assessment of the situation to them. But the hawks in the West dismissed him for being a dove, as they had dismissed Ahsan and Yaqub.

Seventh, once military operations began, India neutralised the single PAF squadron in the East by blasting the runways. Only six helicopters remained in flying condition. The artillery equipment was obsolete with a limited range.

And, eighth, to compound matters, Niazi choose to deploy the troops in “penny packets” around the long border with India, a point also noted by Captain (later brigadier) Siddiq Salik in his memoir, Witness to Surrender.

When the day of reckoning arrived, and the two generals met, Niazi began by reciting Urdu couplets to impress Nagra. When Nagra replied that he had a master’s degree in Persian from Government College, Lahore, Niazi switched to Punjabi.

After the surrender, he retreated to the tents to party with the Indian generals. The shame of surrender was no longer on his shoulders and he began to exchange ribald jokes with his former classmates. Rao Farman says he lost whatever little respect he had for Niazi at that time.

With pathos, Rao Farman concludes, “The [Army’s] Higher Command … lacked sense of direction, political sagacity and sound military judgment…Though it took another nine months to take shape, the breakup of the country was the direct …consequence of two major political decisions: first, to postpone the National Assembly session and second, to launch military action.”

The general, who was later the minister of petroleum in General Zia’s government, does not blame India for the breakup of Pakistan, unlike Yahya Khan (and many others) who blamed it “on the treachery of the Indians.” Nor does he put the blame squarely on Bhutto. After all, the country was under military rule.

The book is a must-read, not because it’s a scholarly work replete with footnotes and sources, but because it’s written by a general officer of the Pakistani army who was on the ground during the war and who saw history in the making.

Published in Daily Times, December 4th 2018.

This is history
 
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You cannot refute it with your findings. So better stay away.



In that case can you CONCLUSIVELY prove that 50,000 Pakistani troops killed 3 million bengalis and raped 10 million bengali women in 6 weeks in 1971? It's what you people always accuse us of.
 
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It happens that the word 'nation' is sometimes used in that sense, of a community.
If nation means community, then I agree with Two nation theory.

But if nation means people who share a common common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory, this may not be true. Muslims in South Asia do not all share the same language or culture. Muslims from South India do not speak the same language like Pakistani Muslims do.

I will get back to you shortly.
 
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In that case can you CONCLUSIVELY prove that 50,000 Pakistani troops killed 3 million bengalis and raped 10 million bengali women in 6 weeks in 1971? It's what you people always accuse us of.
Proof by contradiction. Since you cannot disprove it, it must be true.
 
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Proof by contradiction. Since you cannot disprove it, it must be true.



So 50,000 Pakistani troops killed 3 million bengalis whilst raping 10 million bengali women in 6 weeks in 1971?........:rofl:


You do know it took over 500,000 Nazi soldiers 5 years to kill 4 million Jews with the help from the Nazi superpower and millions of collaborators across Europe... ..:lol:
 
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So 50,000 Pakistani troops killed 3 million bengalis whilst raping 10 million bengali women in 6 weeks in 1971?........:rofl:


You do know it took over 500,000 Nazi soldiers 5 years to kill 4 million Jews with the help from the Nazi superpower and millions of collaborators across Europe... ..:lol:
Well I have proved it...
 
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One Musibet is better than a thousand Nesihat - a Turkish saying

This Alem-i Hikmet (Realm of Wisdom) is all about swings in sinusoidal forms!!!! Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!!! The next one is the Alem-i Kudret (Realm of Power)!!! There, either you lose forever or win forever!!!!

Anyway, let's look at the time-line of major win/loss against the Hindu forces:

712 AC: conquest of Sindh
1193: conquest of Delhi
1204: conquest of Bengal
1761: decimating the Marathas
1948: retrieving a part of Kashmir
1971: loss of the East Pak
1975: BD Muslims killed Mujib and his cohorts under India, and got into power
2008 - ...: Indian proxies are in power

We have taken the revenge for a thousand years of the Muslim rule - India Gandhi after the East Pak debacle
 
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.............wothout ANY evidence or proof...... :lol:
Proof by contradiction is a valid proof. Many major theories have been proven that way.
One Musibet is better than a thousand Nesihat - a Turkish saying

This Alem-i Hikmet (Realm of Wisdom) is all about swings in sinusoidal forms!!!! Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!!! The next one is the Alem-i Kudret (Realm of Power)!!! There, either you lose forever or win forever!!!!

Anyway, let's look at the time-line of major win/loss against the Hindu forces:

712 AC: conquest of Sindh
1193: conquest of Delhi
1204: conquest of Bengal
1761: decimating the Marathas
1947: loss of a part of Kashmir etc.
1971: loss of the East Pak
1975: BD Muslims killed Mujib and his cohorts under India, and got into power
2008 - ...: Indian proxies are in power

We have taken the revenge for a thousand years of the Muslim rule - India Gandhi after the East Pak debacle
Mate cut it out with the Turkish sayings. Even Turkish members here think you are a Pakistani.
 
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Proof by contradiction is a valid proof. Many major theories have been proven that way.

Mate cut it out with the Turkish sayings. Even Turkish members here think you are a Pakistani.

So utterly phony, and so contrived. One Turkish platitude after another. It has become a disease of the mind.
 
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Proof by contradiction is a valid proof. Many major theories have been proven that way.

Mate cut it out with the Turkish sayings. Even Turkish members here think you are a Pakistani.





Can you please explain how 50,000 soldiers can kill 3 million people and rape 10 million women within 6 weeks?
 
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...On March 28 Consul General Blood reported from Dacca as follows: “Here in Dacca we are mute and horrified witnesses to a reign of terror by the Pak military. Evidence continues to mount that the MLA authorities have a list of Awami League supporters whom they are systematically eliminating by seeking them out in their homes and shooting them down.” He recommended that the United States express shock to the Pakistani authorities “at this wave of terror directed against their own countrymen by Pak military.” (Telegram 959 from Dacca) On March 29 the Consulate General reported that the army was setting houses on fire and shooting people as they emerged from the burning houses. (Telegram 978 from Dacca) On March 30 the Consulate General reported that the army had killed a large number of apparently unarmed students at Dacca University. (Telegram 986 from Dacca) The Embassy in Islamabad concurred in expressing its sense of horror and indignation at the “brutal, ruthless and excessive use of force by the Pak military,” -

P.S.: Indus, we had this exchange three years ago. Your response has been to maintain your "The-Army-is-innocent-and-Gen'l-Niazi-did-no-wrong" attitude in spite of overwhelming evidence.
When armies are unleashed things happen. I can cite multiple reports that paint the same picture of US Army in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam going back to WW2.
 
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