Revealed: KSA Possible Secret Buyer of Ukraine's 'Grom' Missile System

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[alee92nawaz]

can we fire any of our missiles like this ?? a attack in barrages

 

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can we fire any of our missiles like this ?? a attack in barrages

lol What barrage?
This is actually Good,Once the saudis get their hands on this ,We're next

 

[The SC]

It also has a brother cruise missie:

 

[Blue Marlin]

It also has a brother cruise missie:

whats the missile called

 

[The SC]

whats the missile called

New Ukrainian Multifunctional Missile Complex to Start Production Next Year
Dec 22, 2014
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tactical ballistic missile Thunder-2


New ukrainian multifunctional missile complex to start production in 2015, reported industrial-news.com. Temporary Acting Chairman of the State Space Agency of Ukraine Oleksandr Golub signed a plan to start pre-production of the new multifunctional missile complex in 2015-2016 years.

Development of system-missile weapons remains a key priority for the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. New tactical missile system developed for the Ukrainian armed forces. This system forms the basis for other operational missiles with a longer range. In fact, the complex is far better and advanced than its Russian counterpart, the Iskander (Nato designation SS-26 Stone).

The maximum range of new ukrainian the multifunctional missile complex is 280 km for the export version and 350 km for the Ukraine army version. The minimum range is 50 km. The complex will use a cruise missile developed on the basis of Korshun (Kite) and new tactical ballistic missile Grom-2 (Thunder-2) to destroy ground targets.

If financing is provided today, then flight tests could start in 2016.

 

[Al-Andalus]

KSA has already 30 An-178 in a cooperation production with Ukraine on order. So a deal of this nature would not surprise me at all. Both countries will benefit from such cooperation. I for once look at Ukraine as a potentially key ally and partner in ensuring the success of the Saudi Vision 2030, in terms of a local arms industry.







Arab-Slavic ties are very old (some of the oldest chronicles describing Slavic peoples and their lives derive from accounts of Arabic chroniclers) and there are many Arab-Slavic intermarriages. I know several personally. Needless to say that the female offspring is top class. Hopefully this cooperation will be this as well.

The government should increase its ties with Ukraine further and help them if needed.

Long live KSA-Ukraine relations and may they continue to prosper.

 

[Zarvan]

lol What barrage?
This is actually Good,Once the saudis get their hands on this ,We're next

Pakistan is already building missiles. What we need to develop is something similar to M270. That can be the best weapon against moving Indian Armor brigades

 

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Pakistan is already building missiles. What we need to develop is something similar to M270. That can be the best weapon against moving Indian Armor brigades

Are we building SAM systems similar to the Grom or S-300 ? SIR?

 

[Al-Andalus]

Ukrainian state-owned Pivdenmash is developing analogue to Russian Iskander missile system​

Saturday, October 8, 2016 4:40:52 PM

Ukraine is developing a Grom-2 (Thunder) system which will be “a close analogue” to the Russian Iskander. This was reported by the LIGA.News Ukrainian agency.

“This system,in fact, is a close analogue to the Russian Iskander. It is being created through the efforts of the state-owned enterprise Pivdenmash,” the news agency said.

The initially planned maximum firing range was 300 km, with the possibility of extending it to 500 km. However, currently the system is being designed with the ability to destroy targets at a range of 450 km. According to the sources, the missile for this system is being developed exactly with such a firing distance. Grom-2 is intedned to completely replace the Tochka-U missile system.

According to LIGA.News, Kyiv also asked to accelerate the implementation of the serial production of missiles for the Grad, Uragan and Smerch missile systems.

“Recently, National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov has been present at the successful launches of these missiles. All that remains is the serial production. Mass production and transfer of the missiles to the military will begin approximately around the beginning of next year,” the news agency says.

http://uawire.org/news/ukrainian-st...g-analogue-to-russian-iskander-missile-system

 

[Sinnerman108]

Ukrainian state-owned Pivdenmash is developing analogue to Russian Iskander missile system​

Saturday, October 8, 2016 4:40:52 PM

Ukraine is developing a Grom-2 (Thunder) system which will be “a close analogue” to the Russian Iskander. This was reported by the LIGA.News Ukrainian agency.

“This system,in fact, is a close analogue to the Russian Iskander. It is being created through the efforts of the state-owned enterprise Pivdenmash,” the news agency said.

The initially planned maximum firing range was 300 km, with the possibility of extending it to 500 km. However, currently the system is being designed with the ability to destroy targets at a range of 450 km. According to the sources, the missile for this system is being developed exactly with such a firing distance. Grom-2 is intedned to completely replace the Tochka-U missile system.

According to LIGA.News, Kyiv also asked to accelerate the implementation of the serial production of missiles for the Grad, Uragan and Smerch missile systems.

“Recently, National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov has been present at the successful launches of these missiles. All that remains is the serial production. Mass production and transfer of the missiles to the military will begin approximately around the beginning of next year,” the news agency says.

http://uawire.org/news/ukrainian-st...g-analogue-to-russian-iskander-missile-system

This and another one from some where else.

There is a smoke screen, and there is a real deal.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

This and another one from some where else.

There is a smoke screen, and there is a real deal.

Do you have the Russian S-400 missile system in mind here?

In any case further cooperation with Ukraine should be initiated. The quicker the better.

We already have signed a couple of deals.

In cooperation with Antonov, Saudi Arabia will produce Antonov Cargo planes in-country

 

[Sinnerman108]

Do you have the Russian S-400 missile system in mind here?

In any case further cooperation with Ukraine should be initiated. The quicker the better.

We already have signed a couple of deals.

In cooperation with Antonov, Saudi Arabia will produce Antonov Cargo planes in-country

No, not s-400.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

No, not s-400.

Background
Saudi Arabia is a non-nuclear weapon state and signatory of the NPT.[1] During the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980’s, Iran and Iraq used ballistic missiles for terror attacks against each other’s urban areas and attacks on non-combatant nations in the Persian Gulf increased.[2] Saudi Arabia began pursuing missile defense capability when Iraq fired Scud ballistic missiles missiles against the coalition military targets stationed in the Kingdom. On January 17, 1991, an Iraqi Scud was intercepted by a US Patriot missile defense system in Saudi Arabia. This event marked the first anti-ballistic missile fired in combat during the Gulf War. [3] By enhancing its security architecture through missile defense, Saudi Arabia seeks to consolidate its place as a regional leader, protect its homeland, and safeguard its regional allies to further cooperation in the Arabian Gulf.[4]

In 1991, Saudi Arabia became the first Middle East customer of the Patriot missile system and maintains the largest missile defense force in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia’s ballistic missile defense capability is designed to defend against its primary adversary: Iran.

Capabilities

• Patriot PAC-2
• Patriot PAC-3
• MIM-23 Hawk

In the 1980’s, Saudi Arabia purchased two variations of the Hawk medium-range air defense system. The Hawk’s surface-to-air systems supported limited anti-ballistic missile capability which pressed Saudi Arabia to purchase the Patriot system in 1991.

With the acquisition of the Patriot system, Saudi Arabia’s air-defense net expanded. In addition to the Hawk SAM systems, Saudi Arabia possessed the advanced longer range Patriot SAM system PAC-2. In 2014, Saudi Arabia upgraded a portion of their PAC-2 systems to the latest PAC-3 upgrade. Authorized by the United States Department of Defense, the $1.7 billion Raytheon contract included ground-system hardware and support equipment upgrades.[5] The upgraded PAC-3 system can destroy more targets with a direct hit and is more effective intercepting fast-moving ballistic missiles.[6]

Current Developments
After the May 2015 Camp David Summit, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE, Oman, Bahrain, and the United States have renewed their commitment to an integrated regional missile defense system which includes radar, early warning, and surface-to-air missile (SAM) sites.[7] Growing regional tensions endangers the security structure within individual GCC states because conflict threatens critical infrastructure, border protection, and aviation security. Iran’s ascendancy to power and its ability to project influence in Iraq, Syria, and Yemen is a primary regional factor that elicits states’ fear [8] Mistrust inhibited previous efforts to build a regional defense system, however, fear has driven joint-GCC military cooperation which is evident through the union’s pursuit for an integrated defense system.[9]

Saudi Arabia and the UAE lead GCC efforts towards a U.S.- supplied and integrated missile shield because they are the only countries in the region that operate the same systems as the United States. [10] At the May 2015 Camp David Summit, Saudi Arabia expressed the GCC’s need for new ground-based networks and computer terminals to foster integration.[11] The United States government has expressed its dedication to enhancing Saudi Arabia’s defense mechanisms in order to defend and deter growing threats such as Iran. In the FY2015, the United States and Saudi Arabia plan to discuss the potential Foreign Military Sale of a THAAD missile system.[12]

Saudi Arabia also engaged in extensive negotiations with the United States to upgrade the Royal Saudi Navy’s Eastern Fleet through the Saudi Naval Expansion Program II (SNEP II). Despite negotiating the the SNEP II program for over seven years, there have been signs of potential movement for the Foreign Military Sales case. In December 2014, Lockheed Martin appropriated $93.8 million for the future integration of MK-41 Vertical Launch Systems (VLS) onto Saudi Arabia’s Naval fleet. VLS integration requires installation on either U.S. guided missile cruisers and destroyers or Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense installations.[13] This appropriation hints at a prospective Saudi purchase of US ships because Saudi Arabia’s Al Riydah-class frigates are incompatible with the MK-41 systems.

http://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/intl-cooperation/saudi-arabia/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Saudi_Strategic_Missile_Force

 

[Sinnerman108]

Background
Saudi Arabia is a non-nuclear weapon state and signatory of the NPT.[1] During the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980’s, Iran and Iraq used ballistic missiles for terror attacks against each other’s urban areas and attacks on non-combatant nations in the Persian Gulf increased.[2] Saudi Arabia began pursuing missile defense capability when Iraq fired Scud ballistic missiles missiles against the coalition military targets stationed in the Kingdom. On January 17, 1991, an Iraqi Scud was intercepted by a US Patriot missile defense system in Saudi Arabia. This event marked the first anti-ballistic missile fired in combat during the Gulf War. [3] By enhancing its security architecture through missile defense, Saudi Arabia seeks to consolidate its place as a regional leader, protect its homeland, and safeguard its regional allies to further cooperation in the Arabian Gulf.[4]

In 1991, Saudi Arabia became the first Middle East customer of the Patriot missile system and maintains the largest missile defense force in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia’s ballistic missile defense capability is designed to defend against its primary adversary: Iran.

Capabilities

• Patriot PAC-2
• Patriot PAC-3
• MIM-23 Hawk

In the 1980’s, Saudi Arabia purchased two variations of the Hawk medium-range air defense system. The Hawk’s surface-to-air systems supported limited anti-ballistic missile capability which pressed Saudi Arabia to purchase the Patriot system in 1991.

With the acquisition of the Patriot system, Saudi Arabia’s air-defense net expanded. In addition to the Hawk SAM systems, Saudi Arabia possessed the advanced longer range Patriot SAM system PAC-2. In 2014, Saudi Arabia upgraded a portion of their PAC-2 systems to the latest PAC-3 upgrade. Authorized by the United States Department of Defense, the $1.7 billion Raytheon contract included ground-system hardware and support equipment upgrades.[5] The upgraded PAC-3 system can destroy more targets with a direct hit and is more effective intercepting fast-moving ballistic missiles.[6]

Current Developments
After the May 2015 Camp David Summit, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE, Oman, Bahrain, and the United States have renewed their commitment to an integrated regional missile defense system which includes radar, early warning, and surface-to-air missile (SAM) sites.[7] Growing regional tensions endangers the security structure within individual GCC states because conflict threatens critical infrastructure, border protection, and aviation security. Iran’s ascendancy to power and its ability to project influence in Iraq, Syria, and Yemen is a primary regional factor that elicits states’ fear [8] Mistrust inhibited previous efforts to build a regional defense system, however, fear has driven joint-GCC military cooperation which is evident through the union’s pursuit for an integrated defense system.[9]

Saudi Arabia and the UAE lead GCC efforts towards a U.S.- supplied and integrated missile shield because they are the only countries in the region that operate the same systems as the United States. [10] At the May 2015 Camp David Summit, Saudi Arabia expressed the GCC’s need for new ground-based networks and computer terminals to foster integration.[11] The United States government has expressed its dedication to enhancing Saudi Arabia’s defense mechanisms in order to defend and deter growing threats such as Iran. In the FY2015, the United States and Saudi Arabia plan to discuss the potential Foreign Military Sale of a THAAD missile system.[12]

Saudi Arabia also engaged in extensive negotiations with the United States to upgrade the Royal Saudi Navy’s Eastern Fleet through the Saudi Naval Expansion Program II (SNEP II). Despite negotiating the the SNEP II program for over seven years, there have been signs of potential movement for the Foreign Military Sales case. In December 2014, Lockheed Martin appropriated $93.8 million for the future integration of MK-41 Vertical Launch Systems (VLS) onto Saudi Arabia’s Naval fleet. VLS integration requires installation on either U.S. guided missile cruisers and destroyers or Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense installations.[13] This appropriation hints at a prospective Saudi purchase of US ships because Saudi Arabia’s Al Riydah-class frigates are incompatible with the MK-41 systems.

http://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/intl-cooperation/saudi-arabia/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Saudi_Strategic_Missile_Force

Be patient.

Look up, and then look extreme right.