Resuming the Islamic Way of Life!

[R2D2]

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This is not based on weak Ahadees. Khilafah was a reality from the time of Hazrat Abu Bakr RA to 1924 and was a Super Power. By the way, I am not Zaid Hamid. I have completely different ideas. If we join Afghanistan or Afghanistan joins us, it is the same thing. They don't have the capacity to manage Kabul airport themselves although their administration is not corrupt.

 

[Menace2Society]

This is not based on weak Ahadees. Khilafah was a reality from the time of Hazrat Abu Bakr RA to 1924 and was a Super Power. By the way, I am not Zaid Hamid. I have completely different ideas and am also not working for establishment. If we join Afghanistan or Afghanistan joins us, it is the same thing. They don't have the capacity to manage Kabul airport themselves although their administration is not corrupt.

Khilafah is an Arab supremecist hegemonic ideology like Hinduvita, like one China policy, like US one world government, do you understand? It's not for your benefit. If you want Pakistan to win then it must invade and dominate others.

When the whites were looting Africa they said they were ordained by God to rule over them. This is no different to Khilafah.

 

[Azadkashmir]

if you read about Hitler and why he is the most demonized person in history its due to rich elites like Rothschild want to keep it secret as to why Germany had to be invaded by so many countries. That was because Hitler throw out the banks and started to print his own currency plus he caught England off guard. By saying you want to trade that's fine but not with your fiat currency lets barter and englands a ss fell out so Germany economy had to be destroyed.

japan story is the same thats why they got nuked as to be taught a lesson.

 

[R2D2]

Khilafah is an Arab supremecist hegemonic ideology like Hinduvita, like one China policy, like US one world government, do you understand? It's not for your benefit. If you want Pakistan to win then it must invade and dominate others.

When the whites were looting Africa they said they were ordained by God to rule over them. This is no different to Khilafah.

The colonialist extracts wealth for loot and plunder while the Khilafah or Islamic government develops the nations. Have a look at the history of Khilafah from Africa to Middle East to Central Asia. They did not exploit the provinces but developed them. If you look at India which was not a part of Khilafat but was ruled by Islamic law, you will find that it was the richest nation on Earth when the Britishers colonized it. The Britishers extracted the wealth and millions died from hunger and poverty. They built the buildings in UK, Scotland and Ireland with our money. Same is the case with other western colonialists. who ruled Africa and Asia

 

[Menace2Society]

The colonialist extracts wealth for loot and plunder while the Khilafah or Islamic government develops the nations. Have a look at the history of Khilafah from Africa to Middle East to Central Asia. They did not exploit the provinces but developed them. If you look at India which was not a part of Khilafat but was ruled by Islamic law, you will find that it was the richest nation on Earth when the Britishers colonized it. The Britishers extracted the wealth and millions died from hunger and poverty. They built the buildings in UK, Scotland and Ireland with our money. Same is the case with other western colonialists. who ruled Africa and Asia

False, the subcontinent was looted heavily during the Arab invasions and people enslaved. They also had a slave trade in Africa. Palaces for their nobility does not equal progress. It's standard procedure for all empires. They were just as bad as all the others.

 

[Indos]

A kind of union where the national interest of Indonesia is not different to the national interest of Algeria or Pakistan.

Muslim countries need to be controlled by a central authority figure - that is the Khalifa. You gave the example of the Governor of Syria having his own army - that caused fitna.

All economic and military power, all political authority needs to be central. The USA is an example - each state has it's governor, but the federation is where the real power lies, with the President.

We will not see it until we have people in power in each Muslim country who fear Allah more than they love power.

I think we can transition to this in an EU style model.

Unlikely to happen. Dont translate the word Caliphate literally, in essence it has no different meaning with international organization like OIC or NATO for Western nation.

The leadership should be naturally formed based on Muslim leaders perception, just like how EU or NATO are governed. In the time of huge challenge, OIC will likely be more effective like EU and NATO with real Russia threat.

Centralistic governing is not ideal, it is likelt to create dissastifaction and inefficient system to respond on various and different needs of each Muslim nation and people. This is why even in the nation level like Indonesia and many other nations we prefer to have provinces and cities with greater power in governing their own areas, budget, choosing their own leader, local law, etc.

Current situation is already ideal. United Muslim nation will create ineffective government and will create huge conflict and dissastifaction from for instant to answer this question like where is the capital ? Who should be the leader ?

Madinah Charter made by prophet Muhammad is more fitt into the Nation state as both Muslim and Non Muslim within the Caliphate are accepted as the citizen and will be protected by the state.

Under current and even since centuries ago, the Muslim brotherhood is played in the form of cooperation between Muslim nations. This is why Indonesian ancient Kingdom get help from Ottoman in Turkey when they were against Western colonial powers. When the challange is so great it can force Muslim nations to make some kind of extraordinary cooperation between them like how NATO operates. OIC as organization has capability to do that, as for now why we need to create such as extraordinary cooperation as we dont need it

 

[Englishman]

Khilafah is an Arab supremecist hegemonic ideology like Hinduvita, like one China policy, like US one world government, do you understand? It's not for your benefit. If you want Pakistan to win then it must invade and dominate others.

When the whites were looting Africa they said they were ordained by God to rule over them. This is no different to Khilafah.

Are you a Muslim?

 

[R2D2]

This is not based on weak Ahadees. Khilafah was a reality from the time of Hazrat Abu Bakr RA to 1924 and was a Super Power. By the way, I am not Zaid Hamid. I have completely different ideas. If we join Afghanistan or Afghanistan joins us, it is the same thing. They don't have the capacity to manage Kabul airport themselves although their administration is not corrupt.

Shaikh Rasheed claims that he led the student protests in Pindi against Ayub Khan but it was a student leader with the same name who became a lawyer later on.

 

[Azadkashmir]

create small community of preppers introduced your own currency gold and silver and barter.
live off the grid dont rely on government for nothing or least you can. create a state within state, buy only from each other.

 

[R2D2]

Unlikely to happen. Dont translate the word Caliphate literally, in essence it has no different meaning with international organization like OIC or NATO for Western nation.

The leadership should be naturally formed based on Muslim leaders perception, just like how EU or NATO are governed. In the time of huge challenge, OIC will likely be more effective like EU and NATO with real Russia threat.

Centralistic governing is not ideal, it is likelt to create dissastifaction. This is why even in the nation level like Indonesia and many other nations we prefer to have provinces and cities with greater power in governing their own areas, budget and people.

Current situation is already ideal. United Muslim nation will create ineffective government and will create huge conflict and dissastifaction from for instant to answer this question like where is the capital ? Who should be the leader ?

Madinah Charter made by prophet Muhammad is more fitt into the Nation state as both Muslim and Non Muslim within the Caliphate are accepted as the citizen and will be protected by the state.

We are divided and weak. Currently countries in your region are choosing between USA and China as protector and economic partner. There is no Muslim member of Security Council. We cannot defend Rohingwa in Myanmar and America attacked Serbia on Bosnia's behalf. They took the half of the oil rich island from Indonesia and we could do nothing.

 

[Indos]

We are divided and weak. Currently countries in your region are choosing between USA and China as protector and economic partner. There is no Muslim member of Security Council. We cannot defend Rohingwa in Myanmar and America attacked Serbia on Bosnia's behalf. They took the half of the oil rich island from Indonesia and we could do nothing.

Dude, better this way, each nation is responsible within its own geographical challege.

Does Pakistan want to go against China in SCS conflict as three Muslim nations in SEA are against China claim ? Your nation will get backlash from China. Even your media are pro China already leaving their Muslim brothers in SEA behind. Your people anti West sentiment is also coming from your alliance with China.

Current situation actually make Muslim nations are not rigid in responding different and various world challenges and can become more effective and agile in responding on their own challege within their own geographic location which is in the end will benefit all Muslim nations as a whole and protect the religion existence as well.

 

[Azadkashmir]

We are divided and weak. Currently countries in your region are choosing between USA and China as protector and economic partner. There is no Muslim member of Security Council. We cannot defend Rohingwa in Myanmar and America attacked Serbia on Bosnia's behalf. They took the half of the oil rich island from Indonesia and we could do nothing.

its not just division its traitorous leaders who do the bidding of western imperialist. thats why i want muslim countries to introduce gold and silver and barter between them, cut off trade with the west. maybe print your own currency. in my opinion, saudi arabia and gulf countries are the real power for muslims since they have the oil and can switch to barter but they are dollar slaves.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

An even bolder and better decision is to.leavr Islam and revert to.Hinduism and join Bharat.

Absurd and false understanding of people, religious faith, and history.

 

[R2D2]

its not just division its traitorous leaders who do the bidding of western imperialist. thats why i want muslim countries to introduce gold and silver and barter between them, cut off trade with the west. maybe print your own currency. in my opinion, saudi arabia and gulf countries are the real power for muslims since they have the oil and can switch to barter but they are dollar slaves.

I agree with gold and silver currency and nationalization and self extraction of gold and copper reserves in Balochistan.

 

[my2cents]

Bharat is a place with 1.4 billion people with no racial pride, docile and lacking testosterone, super amenable to any kind of authority, the perfect slaves basically. Whoever owns Bharat owns 1.4 billion slaves. Right now Brahmins own Bharat, and anyone who can replace them gets 1.4 billion slaves.

Those days of slavery are gone. That is 14th century culture which encouraged slavery and kept sex slaves.You should follow enlightenment leaders like Abraham Lincoln who fought against slavery and is remembered for his emancipation proclamation.