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''Renovated'' Nanguan mosque of China

lmao

again going on marry go round.

what you are justifying in your OP is ethnic/cultural cleansing of muslims in europe and china using their laws (legal umbrella/justification), if muslims use the same method (malays cleansing chinese, arabs cleansing indians/non arabs etc), the ''consequences'' come in play, what you suggesting is law of the jungle (might is right), civilized societies dont think in that manner and we have a term for it, fascism. Hitler tried to do that and suffered ''consequences'' why not think about ''consequences'' as europe/china turns neo nazi again?

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That's little bitch lie.

Nobody is "cleansing" Muslims in China. Uyghurs, Kazakhs and Hui populations all increased in numbers significantly in the last 20 years. Han made up 96% of Chinese population in 1949. Now it is less than 90%.

What is happening, and it's a very encouraging development, is that CCP finally realized these are problematic:

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After:
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Now efforts are underway to purge the Salafism out of Islam in China. If you don't like that, don't come to China and shove your Salafist teachings up your anus. It's that simple.
 
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So you will not complain if there is any ethnic cleansing of chinese in malaysia for instance?

regards
If Malaysia decide to do that and can survive the echo.
But they won't because they CAN'T bear the consequences.
lmao

again going on marry go round.

what you are justifying in your OP is ethnic/cultural cleansing of muslims in europe and china using their laws (legal umbrella/justification), if muslims use the same method (malays cleansing chinese, arabs cleansing indians/non arabs etc), the ''consequences'' come in play, what you suggesting is law of the jungle (might is right), civilized societies dont think in that manner and we have a term for it, fascism. Hitler tried to do that and suffered ''consequences'' why not think about ''consequences'' as europe/china turns neo nazi again?

regards
Muslims don't deserve some extra rights, exactly like Jews or Martians in NON-Muslim/Jewish (Israel in case of Jews) countries.
If you don't like the life style there or only cherry pick like with no doubt most muslims in non-islamic countries ; Haram-life - visiting gambling halls, whorehouses (betraying their islamic wife), like drinking alcohol, taking/selling drugs, everything except eating pork, let their sister/cousin (females) live western lifestyle. Hypocritical like Murricans when they said "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction".
Best would be everyone in his country (NOW, not 2000 yrs ago, otherwise Muslims wouldn't exist lol).

Their country, their rules.

Where I gave you credit - is the case of "religious" freedom promoting in "the West" or freedom of speech but I already said something about that.
 
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Their country, their rules.

Thats what im asking.

what's the difference between fascism and what you are proposing, why was hitler wrong? was he wrong only because he got defeated by bigger powers?

regards
Now efforts are underway to purge the Salafism out of Islam in China.

Malays should really think about purging communism out of their chinese diaspora.

regards
 
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Its OK if Chinese Muslim decide it that way, but for China case the renovation is forcefully conducted by their government. There should be freedom of religion and as long as Chinese Muslim dont harm other people, they should be let free by their government to decide what kind of style their place of worship should be.

In Indonesia there are also many new mosque that use Indonesian style on them, not exactly follow traditional Muslim style.

Pondok Indah Mosque (Javanese style)

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Padang Grand Mosque, West Sumatra (Minang style)
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Al-Irsyad Mosque, West Java (modern style)
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Exactly - the key is the freedom to chose.
 
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Exactly - the key is the freedom to chose.

Mosque was rebuilt - that is the only thing that matters in this!

Muslims in Europe have converted pubs, churches and other bland buildings to mosques without any permissions for outer design and structural changes - all sects have such mosques. As long as China rebuilds every demolished mosque, I find no religious justifications for muslims objecting to local architecture.

Domes were primarily Roman and Byzantine design for prominent buildings. All early mosques were flat roofed.
 
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Thats what im asking.

what's the difference between fascism and what you are proposing, why was hitler wrong? was he wrong only because he got defeated by bigger powers?

regards


Malays should really think about purging communism out of their chinese diaspora.

regards


My honest opinion, I'm not a typically western hypocrite.

If I would be the Mustache back in the day I would have KICKED out all liberal-bullshit-promoting Jews out of the Reich and throw Germans who are against me into the jail.
I would never say this country should do this internal politics or change these things. Except they try to say my country do this/that...

But don't chase them through the oven.
But I NEVER said I stay for "democratic human values" ...
Look what happens when you mock the prophet of the muslims?
I really don't care if Muslims kill atheists/people who mock the prophet IN THEIR COUNTRIES.
All which is against the own agenda.
Let's put is this way.
I would like new laws in Germany and these are for us (Germans) the same as your Quran for you.
Going against these (new, pro German laws) are like mocking the prophet for you.
Other example.
Only 2 countries in the world.
One islamic (size of Afghanistan) and Germany in the borders of 1938.
The islamic one is trying to conquer, it's neighbour country.
What happens?
German army destroy that Muslim army, after that, I hope for their health, they don't pretend to do Partisan warfare - no RoE anymore than and harshest mesurements for every sneaky attack)/or are THAT radical that they declare a Jihad and every soul is expected to fight against German "invaders".

The reason I can UNDERSTAND Muslims (no matter of their ideological branch, more secular/radical whatever).
The reason I can UNDERSTAND why many non-Muslims have problems with Muslims etc.
I don't have to like it but I will nothing good/bad for them - neutral as long as they don't disturb me/my people.
 
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Look what happens when you mock the prophet of the muslims?
I really don't care if Muslims kill atheists/people who mock the prophet IN THEIR COUNTRIES.

you are visibly inspired by nazism.

But you dont take past lessons, Hitler started eradicating jews in germany but then germany wasn't enough, the vermin expanded, started implementing his plans outside germany.

You are trying to make germany your mental asylum, but then again, things go against you, you end up being hammered, taught a lesson never to repeat that again.

Im simply stating, if europe leans on such fascist lines, as you said, there would be consequences, live and let live, dont insult our prophet and nothing bad will happen, muslims dont insult anyone so they dont expect anyone to insult their religion, muslim migrants are part of europe/germany now, you will have to live with it, other wise, there will be hitler like fate waiting for you in the end, learn for your own damn fascist./terror history and never repeat it again. Circumstances are not in your favour as europe/west declines and nations in the east rise.

regards
 
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you are visibly inspired by nazism.

But you dont take past lessons, Hitler started eradicating jews in germany but then germany wasn't enough, the vermin expanded, started implementing his plans outside germany.

You are trying to make germany your mental asylum, but then again, things go against you, you end up being hammered, taught a lesson never to repeat that again.

Im simply stating, if europe leans on such fascist lines, as you said, there would be consequences, live and let live, dont insult our prophet and nothing bad will happen, muslims dont insult anyone so they dont expect anyone to insult their religion, muslim migrants are part of europe/germany now, you will have to live with it, other wise, there will be hitler like fate waiting for you in the end, learn for your own damn fascist./terror history and never repeat it again. Circumstances are not in your favour as europe/west declines and nations in the east rise.

regards

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You do not make the senior teacher and pretend if you know me.
Well, we'll see how things will go.
I think Islam in Europe will become like Tatars way of life in Poland.
There will be acceptance among Muslims who live in Europe for "European reformed Islam" IN Europe or "civil war". ^^
Don't forget, weak Libturds are mostly only so long liberal as long as they can finance their cosmopolitan lifestyle and many of these atm faggots will become decent Europeans again, with the long stick.
China is the only tough "enemy" in the east. And that is more an American problem.
I find it always funny, the one Pakistani is admiring China the other one is whining because of the "poor, poor" Muslims.
You wouldn't even have a MBT without the bad Kuffars and bad Chinese. LUL.
"Facist/Terror" - I think you forget rapist - ah no, would be Bangladesh War, you lost... hopefully you never repeat it again and try to sound like Einstein and come with "morale".

regards
 
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But we were told that China is putting/locking all Muslims in concentration camp?? They are demolishing mosques.

They're doing both and more...

Care to read up what the Uyghurs have been through for the past 100 and more years? It'll enlighten you.
 
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If Malaysia decide to do that and can survive the echo.
But they won't because they CAN'T bear the consequences.

Muslims don't deserve some extra rights, exactly like Jews or Martians in NON-Muslim/Jewish (Israel in case of Jews) countries.
If you don't like the life style there or only cherry pick like with no doubt most muslims in non-islamic countries ; Haram-life - visiting gambling halls, whorehouses (betraying their islamic wife), like drinking alcohol, taking/selling drugs, everything except eating pork, let their sister/cousin (females) live western lifestyle. Hypocritical like Murricans when they said "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction".
Best would be everyone in his country (NOW, not 2000 yrs ago, otherwise Muslims wouldn't exist lol).

Their country, their rules.

Where I gave you credit - is the case of "religious" freedom promoting in "the West" or freedom of speech but I already said something about that.

A population increasing doesn't mean they're not being oppressed. Get this bs CCP tactic out of here.

Kashmiri & Palestinian population has increased since 10, 20, 50 years ago......does that mean they're not oppressed!? :disagree:

Let me show you a different picture that is actually supported by irrefutable data.

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We all know CCP since WWII has been resettling Han into Xinjiang just like Israel or India do in their respective countries to dilute the native populations...

And let me present another side..

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Why the near double spending in "security" in 2017?? :rolleyes:

And just so you know....I can provide more proof of Uyghur persecution.....while you and your band of brothers will provide proof in terms of singing dancing Uyghurs, how many skyscrapers are there in Xinjiang (there's a couple threads on it). I also have evidence of your fellow Chinese on this forum insulting Islam, Muslims & Uyghurs. Which shows some, not all but especially most PDF Chinese have hatred against Islam & Muslims.

Check post #2 also...

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He's referring to the shape of the mosque. 8 negative ratings....wonder how he got them. :lol:
Fall to it? Islam has arrived in China since the 8th century, yet you're a speck compared to the influence of Taoism and Buddhism. Fundamentally, you're incompatible with mainstream Chinese society. Hell, Communist Party itself has triple the number of members. This is China's traditional territory. Your kind are outsiders trying to convert us. Don't play victim. Increasingly, Chinese people are getting tired of your shit. You're lucky Communists are the ones in charge and they're so lenient towards you.

What do you have that attracts people to it? Superior technology? Superior economics? You can't provide people with shit other than misery and violence. You didn't bring down the Soviets or Americans, so don't brag about some grandiose fantasy you have. Soviet Union collapsed from its own economic and political woes. US simply didn't think it was worth it to stay in Afghanistan. Both could have turned you easily into a parking lot, but they had no incentives to do so.

Chinese:
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Not Chinese:
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Not Chinese:
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Your airports, most of your residential areas and even the people don't dress like "Chinese". :lol:

You guys and gals are anything but Chinese in this modern day and age. :rolleyes:


Kick them out also.
 
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I think China administration will be getting more confidence doing this policy after scores of Muslim countries support China policy in Xin Jiang. It is a Sinicization policy that was imposed by China goverment under Xi

Sinicization, sinofication, sinification, or sinonization (from the prefix sino-, 'Chinese, relating to China') is the process by which non-Chinese societies come under the influence of Chinese culture, particularly Han-Chinese culture, language, societal norms, and ethnic identity.

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Advisers hail sinicization of religions

By Cao Siqi Source:Global Times Published: 2019/3/10

Religious integration in socialist society key to harmony, says expert


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Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) members from religious circles hold a joint conference on Thursday in Beijing during the two sessions. Photo: Cao Siqi/GT

Chinese political advisers from five main religions hailed the country's efforts to promote social stability and vowed to continue adhering to the sinicization of religions and make greater efforts to better integrate religions into the socialist society.

In a panel discussion during the second session of the 13th National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), Wang Yang, chairman of the CPPCC National Committee, said that religious issues have a bearing on social harmony, ethnic solidarity and national security, the Xinhua News Agency reported.

He spoke of the need to raise awareness of the rule of law to maintain harmony and stability in religious circles, and ensure religions better adapt themselves to socialist society, Xinhua reported.

At the panel discussion, Zhan Ru, deputy head of the China Buddhist Association and a CPPCC member, said that Chinese Buddhist culture is a window for the world to understand Chinese culture and Chinese religion.

Taking Buddhism as a platform for dialogue, it is important to strengthen the internal harmony of Chinese religions and promote exchanges between Chinese Buddhism and world Buddhism.

Adiljang Ajikrim, deputy head of the China Islamic Association, said that 2019 is the key to implementing the five-year (2018-22) outline on the sinicization of Islam and the key to the direction is to construct the Islamic doctrine system with Chinese characteristics and cultivate high-quality talent.

He suggested that the government continue to unify the compilation and publishing textbooks for China's Islamic institutes and strengthen the interpretation of the doctrines in multiple platforms and channels.

Yang Faming, head of the China Islamic Association, told the China News Service that upholding the direction of sinicization of religion should correctly understand the relationship between national laws and religious regulations.

Yang said the association has drafted a regulation on Islamic personnel's code of conduct.

In a joint conference held on Thursday, Dai Junfeng, the head of the Islamic Association in Kunming, Southwest China's Yunnan Province and a CPPCC member, also vowed to explore more paths for the sinicization of Islam.

Dai told the Global Times that during the past year, his association has been implementing the initiative advocated by the China Islamic Association, which urged nationwide Islamic associations to raise the national flag at mosques, require religious personnel to study the Chinese Constitution, socialist core values and traditional Chinese culture.

His association has established a district to demonstrate national unity and progress, and integrate the study of classic doctrines with socialist core values, he said.

Huang Zhi'an, deputy head of the Taoism Association of China, said that Taoism is the native religion of China.

However, the religion has been lacking vitality for the years. "The key to solving this problem is to train a group of top Taoist talent," Huang told the Global Times.

Shen Bin, deputy head of the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association, also said that Catholicism has been experiencing ups and downs after being introduced to China because the local churches failed to implement the principle of independence and self-management, and didn't integrate with Chinese culture.

The Catholic Church in China needs to adhere to the leadership of the Communist Party of China, uphold the direction of sinicization and strengthen the implementation of the Regulation on Religious Affairs, Shen said.

Zhang Keyun, deputy head of China Christian Council, stressed the need to build a mechanism for religious work in rural areas, strengthen management in accordance with the law and guide the exploration of the sinicization of Christianity.

Kan Baoping, deputy head of the Three-Self Patriotic Movement Committee of the Protestant Church in China, stressed the need to unite Christians in China to resist external infiltration and walk on the path of loving the country and the church.

In September 2017, leaders from the five religious communities reached a consensus at a forum, "Chinese culture and religious sinicization," in Beijing. They agreed that "the direction of religions is to integrate with Chinese culture."

In March 2018, the Christian community announced the implementation of a five-year outline, which requires the community to strengthen the theological foundation for the sinicization of Christianity.

Catholic churches passed a draft version of a five-year outline to promote the sinicization of Catholicism in December 2017.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1141560.shtml

@Rasengan

Indon is not suitable to discuss this issue. Do your own things well.
 
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You're lucky Communists are the ones in charge and they're so lenient towards you.

You're lucky the Commies are lenient (which is false but let's peddle your narrative for once) because if not, they would have also been broken up like Russia.

Do you want me to bring out the below pic?

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Don't make history repeat itself:

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Domes were primarily Roman and Byzantine design for prominent buildings. All early mosques were flat roofed.

You're right in saying that but the matter here is that China is trying to change Uyghur culture, which can be seen by the very authoritarian style of the new building.
you wouldn't have a civilized society in europe if it wasn't for muslims, lul.

regards

Someone wants to go back to the Dark Age. :rolleyes:
 
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A population increasing doesn't mean they're not being oppressed. Get this bs CCP tactic out of here.

Kashmiri & Palestinian population has increased since 10, 20, 50 years ago......does that mean they're not oppressed!? :disagree:

Let me show you a different picture that is actually supported by irrefutable data.

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We all know CCP since WWII has been resettling Han into Xinjiang just like Israel or India do in their respective countries to dilute the native populations...

And let me present another side..

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Why the near double spending in "security" in 2017?? :rolleyes:

And just so you know....I can provide more proof of Uyghur persecution.....while you and your band of brothers will provide proof in terms of singing dancing Uyghurs, how many skyscrapers are there in Xinjiang (there's a couple threads on it). I also have evidence of your fellow Chinese on this forum insulting Islam, Muslims & Uyghurs. Which shows some, not all but especially most PDF Chinese have hatred against Islam & Muslims.

Check post #2 also...

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He's referring to the shape of the mosque. 8 negative ratings....wonder how he got them. :lol:



Your airports, most of your residential areas and even the people don't dress like "Chinese". :lol:

You guys and gals are anything but Chinese in this modern day and age. :rolleyes:


Kick them out also.

As Islam was originated in Arabia, you country is a branch, China is a branch. You have your style, we have our own. I don't hate Islam at all. I dislike the attitude like yours. My suggestion is that you do your own things well and make some creative changes. Chinese is good at learning. If we observe your something is good, we will learn and merging it into our own system. Before you display your good aspects, I don't care your propaganda.
 
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As Islam was originated in Arabia, you country is a branch, China is a branch. You have your style, we have our own. I don't hate Islam at all. I dislike the attitude like yours. My suggestion is that you do your own things well and make some creative changes. Chinese is good at learning. If we observe your something is good, we will learn and merging it into our own system. Before you display your good aspects, I don't care your propaganda.

Good, I was just reminding you that threats will be faced with threats.

I like your attitude. Let me tell you something so that you can increase your learning.

Islam didn't originate in Arabia. Islam was revealed. Islam originated way before any of us, even your Chinese ancestors, some, not all, believed in Islam.

So what is Islam? Simply, belief in One God & His messengers. Don't tell me before all the isms of your land, people didn't believe in One God?? Because I can bring proof.
 
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