Religious circumcision of kids a crime - German court

[livingdead]

Well there are many benefits for circumcision also proven by the Science. So I don't know why the court is not willing to see the advantages of circumcision too...

Yes true, there are some advantages, for example the skin becomes less sensitive and more resisant to germs, also it requires less cleaning, and more hygenic. But there is no unanimity that mass circumcision is good.

 

[PteX]

The reason schools exist is not for getting high marks, but to give all round education to children. People of other faith still feel awckward sending their kids to school of other faith. Although they permit kids of other faith, but overall level it leads to segregation of children based on faiths. BTW catholic schools do give preference to catholic kids.


no, it has more to do with jews and their special pleading (and talking about holocust/antisemitism at drop of a hat)

Christians do it, Muslims do it and Jews do it.
It is simply your bigotry which tries to find a way to bash a certain group.

 

[Desert Fox]

Soon believing in God will be a crime in the West.

Soon, being straight will also become a crime.

 

[Yeti]

Yes true, there are some advantages, for example the skin becomes less sensitive and more resisant to germs, also it requires less cleaning, and more hygenic. But there is no unanimity that mass circumcision is good.

Dude as a Hindu we can't judge other people or religions it is their choice just live and let live buddy.

 

[Hyde]

Yes true, there are some advantages, for example the skin becomes less sensitive and more resisant to germs, also it requires less cleaning, and more hygenic. But there is no unanimity that mass circumcision is good.

Sir read the link I posted in the same post

Circumcision is Africa’s best weapon against AIDS

Circumcision is Africa’s best weapon against AIDS | The Great Debate

Google it and you will know that the circumcision drastically reduces the risk of aids and other diseases after marriage

 

[Desert Fox]

I think religious circumcision should not be carried out by parents. It should be a personal choice that people can decide for themselves when they grow older.

But as you get older the more difficult/dangerous it becomes to circumcise.

 

[Wright]

Your analogy is completely wrong. Carrying a knife and that too at an airport is different from being circumcised.

Here's an analogy that actually makes sense: Banning circumcision is like banning Sikhs from wearing their turban.

BTW, circumcision has health benefits as proven by medical research. Men who are circumcised are less likely to contract STD's and other infection.

There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:

A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).

Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.

The problem is consent. It is done to you without your consent. A part of your body is taken away without your agreement.

Sure if you are the type that likes others making your descisions for you it might be ok. But for other it's not.

 

[PteX]

The problem is consent. It is done to you without your consent. A part of your body is taken away without your agreement.

Sure if you are the type that likes others making your descisions for you it might be ok. But for other it's not.

And most who go through this, do not begrudge their parents and go on and do it to their own children.

 

[Desert Fox]

Germans showing why instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they should have been the targets by the brave US army

Why would you say such a thing?

 

[livingdead]

Christians do it, Muslims do it and Jews do it.
It is simply your bigotry which tries to find a way to bash a certain group.

Sorry, if I gave you such impression, trust me, no ill will involved. I dont like people use special pleading and get priviledge.

 

[Hyde]

Some benefits of circumcision - First link coming from the Google but still very useful

1 Many older men, who have bladder or prostate gland problems, also develop difficulties with their foreskins due to their surgeon's handling, cleaning, and using instruments. Some of these patients will need circumcising. Afterwards it is often astonishing to find some who have never ever seen their glans (knob) exposed before!

2 Some older men develop cancer of the penis - about 1 in 1000 - fairly rare, but tragic if you or your son are in that small statistic. Infant circumcision gives almost 100% protection, and young adult circumcision also gives a large degree of protection.

3 Cancer of the cervix in women is due to the Human Papilloma Virus. It thrives under and on the foreskin from where it can be transmitted during intercourse. An article in the British Medical Journal in April 2002 suggested that at least 20% of cancer of the cervix would be avoided if all men were circumcised. Surely that alone makes it worth doing?

4 Protection against HIV and AIDS. Another British Medical Journal article in May 2000 suggested that circumcised men are 8 times less likely to contract the HIV virus. (It is very important here to say that the risk is still far too high and that condoms and safe sex must be used - this applies also to preventing cancer of the cervix in women who have several partners.)

A BBC television programme in November 2000 showed two Ugandan tribes across the valley from one another. One practised circumcision and had very little AIDS, whereas, it was common in the other tribe, who then also started circumcising. This programme showed how the infection thrived in the lining of the foreskin, making it much easier to pass on.

5 As with HIV, so some protection exists against other sexually transmitted infections. Accordingly, if a condom splits or comes off, there is some protection for the couple. However, the only safe sex is to stick to one partner or abstain.

6 Lots of men, and their partners, prefer the appearance of their penis after circumcision, It is odour-free, it feels cleaner, and they enjoy better sex. Awareness of a good body image is a very important factor in building self confidence.

7 Balanitis is an unpleasant, often recurring, inflammation of the glans. It is quite common and can be prevented by circumcision.

8 Urinary tract infections sometimes occur in babies and can be quite serious. Circumcision in infancy makes it 10 times less likely.

The Benefits of Male Circumcision

 

[livingdead]

Sir read the link I posted in the same post

Circumcision is Africa’s best weapon against AIDS

Circumcision is Africa’s best weapon against AIDS | The Great Debate

Google it and you will know that the circumcision drastically reduces the risk of aids and other diseases after marriage

Sir, I already agreed( have read that article). Issue is, in medical fraternity, it is still a debate unresolved. (Compared to say mass vaccination).
The question is whether such mass circumcision can bring more reward than cost and pain it involves.

 

[Desert Fox]

Yes true, there are some advantages, for example the skin becomes less sensitive and more resisant to germs, also it requires less cleaning, and more hygenic. But there is no unanimity that mass circumcision is good.

Mass circumcision? You saying that as if someone is going to force circumcision upon millions of newborn babies whether their parents agree to it or not.

Circumcision is the choice of the parents. If they want it or not depends on them. Gov.t has not right to dictate.

 

[sur]

I think religious circumcision should not be carried out by parents. It should be a personal choice that people can decide for themselves when they grow older.

“Bailey & Love’s Test Books of Surgery” states that cancer of penis is 6 times more common in Un-circumcised THAN in circumcised -&- if one is circumcised after age of 6-year, he has almost same risk of penile cancer as an Un-circumcised one so circumcision is beneficial only before age 6. Also penile cancer is almost exclusively found in un-circumcised ppl.


Cervical cancer in female partner increases if male is un-circumcised :- "Interestingly, cancer of the cervix -- which comprises about 25 percent of the cancer of women in general -- is very rare among Jewish women." Wrote Dr. Louis Lasagna,


Chances of spread of HIV are much more in uncircumcised males & their partners.


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Wikipedia

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"Circumcision during infancy or in childhood provides partial protection against penile cancer, but this is not the case when performed in adulthood"


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& if they attempted to attack Islam through this court decision, then let them be informed

Jesus was circumcised: Luke:2:21
It was a command from God(which can’t be without any reason): Gen:21:4
Being UN-circumcised is being unclean: Acts:7:51
Only circumcised ppl agreed with teachings of deciples: Acts:10:45 & Acts:11:2
UN-circumcised ppl were “BAD”: Acts:11:3
Paul & Barnabas had no problem with circumcision: Acts:15:1-2
BUT when christianity spread to Un-circumcised ppl(Acts:15:3) & some insisted that new converts should circumcise(Acts:15:5), then Paul changed the rules(Gal:5:2...) to make things easy for new converts.

 

[friendly_troll96]

It is better to be circumcised as you avoid many diseases and infections.

Also it is better to do it to a boy when he is a baby.

Who wants to get it sliced at 18?

Law should be same, jews are not special people.


It is a minor medical procedure, they dont slice it... cant believe I am telling you this.

It's gonna hurt like a ***** i tell you.
I think they stimulate the weenie until it's fully erect before circumcision, now imagine a doctor trying to handle a 'grownup' tool.