Relationship with the establishment got damaged months ago - Fawad Chaudhary

[Areesh]

Then so was binging Imran in.

Imran was brought by people of Pakistan. And nobody has right to undo decision of people of Pakistan for petty reasons

 

[cocomo]

There involvement seems to normalized now, all sectors including opposition and the judiciary seems to be on board with this "new" normal aka the hybrid system. Fawad spoke of having a chat with the opposition member about the vague rules of COAS appointment, it was unclear he said, he suggests let the most senior be appointed head the army like in the Judiciary which begs the question was this the bone of contention b/w the Gov. and army.? He did mention there were more than one issue both didn't agree on..

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

Imran was brought by people of Pakistan. And nobody has right to undo decision of people of Pakistan for petty reasons

If you believe that then I don't know what to say.

 

[Sugarcane]

What foreign policy establishment have other than renting army and pulling down pants and bending over that they don't want bloody civilians to interfere in it?

Buzdar is 10 times better than Murad Ali Shah who is ruling sindh for past 5 years

Perhaps DHA of Karachi is quite profitable.

 

[HaMoTZeMaS]

Afghanistan is about to go boom. India is outstripping you in defense and economy, growing the gulf in conventional balance. You have major insurgencies. Chinese stuff is stalled. GCC relationships damaged. EU relationships damaged. Country is practically bankrupt. They only country that is in a position to help you is the US and the sitting PM kept on cursing them publicly. Just last month, he pull a political stunt, and gave subsidies on oil/gas etc. sacrificing national interests in favour of PTI interests.

Something had to be done, and I am glad it was done. Imran had tremendous support from the state and he has mucked it up. He is more of an anarchical activist than a statesman. I hope he takes time to analyze his own blunders rather than dumping it on "traitors".

The Only statesmen Mother land of Pakistan could /had produced are
10% Zardari
2 Rattan Punjab dey grown up in the laps of Dictator

List is restricted to blood line of these 2
prime examples are
Barish aata ha to Pani aata ha lab grown youth lessness Billo

If you believe that then I don't know what to say.

Its partially true

No doubt IK was brought in by forces inside pakistan
NOT SOLELY

People like me, who are isolated from Establishment and public service structure, supported ik with our own consciousness Not influenced by something/somebody

There involvement seems to normalized now, all sectors including opposition and the judiciary seems to be on board with this "new" normal aka the hybrid system. Fawad spoke of having a chat with the opposition member about the vague rules of COAS appointment, it was unclear he said, he suggests let the most senior be appointed head the army like in the Judiciary which begs the question was this the bone of contention b/w the Gov. and army.? He did mention there were more than one issue both didn't agree on..

i am just happy,

how Allah Through IK has revealed the Jafers and Sadiqs along with the cracks and faults in our system we are living in

Now its upto us whether we close our eyes or stand upto Zulam

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Let me tell you a story:

As we all know Karachi has been in ruins for many decades.

There was rainstorm 2 years back, due to heavy rain, storm drains were blocked, filled, the city was flooded, 41 people were killed and many were injured or electrocuted.

But then again, according to sindh govt everything was fine in Karachi, till the next day another rain flooded the houses in DHA/Clifton. Billions of rupees worth of cars, furniture, warehouses were water damaged.

Then miraclously Sindh govt woke up from deep slumber and admitted the disaster in the DHA. There were water pumps installed to drain out the stuck water in the basements, but that didnt do much.

Few weeks later, authorities came into action, judgements were passed from courts...and suddenly FWO (Frontier Works Organization) started fixing Lyari Naddi, Gujjar Nullah to prevent future floods like this.

2020 Karachi floods - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[mudas777]

Honestly it's foreign policy issues at the helm of it all - detiriorating relationship with GCC and US during IKs administration
I think IK's foreign policy could have been better
All other things were fine actually better than fine

Course correction always causes turbulence and that's the key achievement of the IK. If you love boot polishing and have got no self respect for yourself, other counties always will walk all over you. How GCC and Saudi changed their tone when money was returned back to them.
Dignity and respect have got a cost but rewards are even more higher. Inferiority complex will always let you to sit at others feet and listen to others crap but self respect will force others to make way for you to sit at the same table and listened to. Learn to play the big game not marbles in the back streets.

 

[Ssan]

If you believe that then I don't know what to say.

Right - we are to believe that IK was brought in by alien forces while NS had popular support? Only problem with that is when NS got disqualified, no one gave a flying f, meanwhile, see what has happened post IK removal.

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

Right - we are to believe that IK was brought in by alien forces while NS had popular support? Only problem with that is when NS got disqualified, no one gave a flying f, meanwhile, see what has happened post IK removal.

I am not a spokesperson for NS or any politician. As for IK, don't worry about that. Establishment will skillfully take the air our of IK's balloon.

 

[Ssan]

I am not a spokesperson for NS or any politician. As for IK, don't worry about that. Establishment will skillfully take the air our of IK's balloon.

I would have thought they would have handled this better than they have. Truthfully, everything they seem to be doing is backfiring horribly. Frankly, we are out of the playbook, not sure what options they have that don’t have their own risks.

 

[TheSolution]

I am not a spokesperson for NS or any politician. As for IK, don't worry about that. Establishment will skillfully take the air our of IK's balloon.

Establishment is completely lost with how to deal with IK. They didn't expect or anticipate what's currently going on, they thought people would talk about it on social media for a while and just accept it, meanwhile he has more support than ever with mass trending hashtags. Dealing with IK is no easy task with the current support he has.

Look at how quick anti-army sentiment grew overnight, can the establishment predict what will follow after any tactic they play,

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

Establishment is completely lost with how to deal with IK. They didn't expect or anticipate what's currently going on, they thought people would talk about it on social media for a while and just accept it, meanwhile he has more support than ever with mass trending hashtags. Dealing with IK is no easy task with the current support he has.

Look at how quick anti-army sentiment grew overnight, can the establishment predict what will follow after any tactic they play,

The way in which the removal happened was a blunder. Soldiers running around Islamabad that night, and courts opening were not good optics. All they had to do was tell MQM to look the other way as Imran doesn't have a simple majority. PDM didn't have to use this group and that group, nor should they have beaten the drum about Sindh house.

Given the new popularity, they'll do it slowly overtime. Imran may come back but there won't be the same level of trust between him and the establishment.

I'm personally against institutional interference, but it should apply to all.

 

[Trango Towers]

Honestly it's foreign policy issues at the helm of it all - detiriorating relationship with GCC and US during IKs administration
I think IK's foreign policy could have been better
All other things were fine actually better than fine

Correcting a bad foreign policy of subservience to the Arabs and the west obviously causes waves. Those waves affect the masters more than the slaves. When the slaves rise and determine their destiny there are minions that want to continue yo serve.
Freedom has a price. IK struggled to ensure the future pakistan would be free. If you cannot see that then I suggest yoh go to specsavers and get your eyes tested

 

[SD 10]

so many people wants to stay as slaves!!! SHAME!

 

[python-000]

You guys can go to any lengths to justify treason committed against the state of Pakistan. Don't you?



Buzdar is 10 times better than Murad Ali Shah who is ruling sindh for past 5 years

But establishment is fine with Murad Ali Shah ruling Sindh despite all the corruption and incompetency

These are just bullsh!t excuses to impose thugs on Pakistan and nothing more

absolutely as you can see how ppp goons destroy Karachi City witch was the economical hub of Pakistan still sucking blood of this poor City buzdar gone But namurad shah is still here & brutally playing Sindh & Shiaisam card in the City so establishment must stop backing this bloody corrupt criminals party (ppp) as well...