Regional power confronts China over East Sea

[beijingwalker]

gullible logic...

say more,actually I think most your country,India's south Asian neighor would choose to be on Chinese side.

 

[gambit]

I am against US involvement in SCS. The people of Asia need to work out their own problems. US had fought enough war and die enough for other people. Its time for Americans to build up the American economy instead fighting other people's war.

The South China Sea is a vital economic transit way for everyone in Asia, from durable goods to energy sources like LNG to crude oil. If our allies are economically choked off by China, and they will if China is not challenged, then the US will suffer the consequences as well. Perhaps not as great but it is China's plan to severely curtail or even economically collapse some countries for China's long term benefits.

 

[beijingwalker]

The South China Sea is a vital economic transit way for everyone in Asia, from durable goods to energy sources like LNG to crude oil. If our allies are economically choked off by China, and they will if China is not challenged, then the US will suffer the consequences as well. Perhaps not as great but it is China's plan to severely curtail or even economically collapse some countries for China's long term benefits.

who said we are gonna block SCS?

 

[gambit]

who said we are gonna block SCS?

The corollary question is: 'Who say not?'

 

[terranMarine]

Same can be said about American paranoid thoughts, Iran never threatened the US, but the question Americans are asking themselves is that country might be developing nukes to attack US. So lets put lots of pressure on them and force Nato to support them and attack Iran first before they can develop any nukes. That's what the US has always been trying to do finding an excuse to describe that country supporting terrorists and ruled by dictatorship. Same happened to Iraq, lets attack them first cause we are quite sure they are making weapons of mass destruction. Saddam didn't threaten US but hey don't take his word for it because he could be lying right?

It is the western media that suggest China is occupying the whole SCS when China only claim the shoals. Again US should be made clear not to involve in the matter that doesn't concern her.

 

[NiceGuy]

this is Pakistan defence forum,and you Indians believe this host country is on Vietnamese side?must be something wrong with you brain,ASEAN host country Cambodia is not even on the Vietnamese side.let alone others.

still trying to denie the fact that Cambodia's just given to china some hollow words??

At least it proves that Cambodia loves Vietnam far more than China. VN receives Gold...many gold and fertile land from Cambodia when china only recieves trash and hollow words

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...tatement-south-china-sea-2.html#ixzz21Lk5Iy5E

It is the western media that suggest China is occupying the whole SCS when China only claim the shoals. Again US should be made clear not to involve in the matter that doesn't concern her.

only claim the shoals.??

 

[gambit]

It is the western media that suggest China is occupying the whole SCS when China only claim the shoals.

You mean those dotted lines on the map are food stains from the lunch break when the PLA generals and admirals were planning on how to takeover those islands?

Got it...

 

[Fanling Monk]

Err..... everyone except China (and yeah..... Pakistan also)

Don't just make a statement for the sake of trolling. Show me proofs which country, or all countries in the world except China and Pakistan as you claim, supports Vietnam on the SCS dispute.

 

[beijingwalker]

Don't just make a statement for the sake of trolling. Show me proofs which country, or all countries in the world except China and Pakistan as you claim, supports Vietnam on the SCS dispute.

I bet he can't,wanna bet?

 

[GR!FF!N]

we don't put our land to foreign court,and we dont rule out a peaceful solution,at same time,our war ships are battle ready.

First,thats no "Land",its International Water..second, thats middle age rules..now,everybody goes to the International court to resolve differences....except few countries who knows they don't stand a chance...

say more,actually I think most your country,India's south Asian neighor would choose to be on Chinese side.

any proof???in whole Asia,only Combodia is supporting China's claim.neither Pakistan(some may have hard to believe it) nor Sri Lanka supports it.if you have proof,show us how leaders of those countries supported you.hell,they didn't even mention that issue ever,because they have no clout on SCS..

what Combodia is doing is working as a representative of China,thats why it is working hard to keep nations to discuss issues of SCS multilaterally,when China is trying to solve it bilaterally.but tell me,what is the value of bilateral talk to a third country???NIL..

 

[beijingwalker]

First,thats no "Land",its International Water..second, thats middle age rules..now,everybody goes to the International court to resolve differences....except few countries who knows they don't stand a chance...

really?US always goes there?never heard once.

 

[terranMarine]

Ah i remember very clearly that former president Bush signed a law to attack the International Court if they dare to prosecute US war criminals.

 

[GR!FF!N]

really?US always goes there?never heard once.

USA has border dispute with anyone???never heard about it???but your close ally Bangladesh and Mayanmar went there few years ago and resolved a dispute regarding EEZ...heard about it???India goes there too..

my bad....

territorial dispute between USA,Maxico...


Overlap on the eastern gap of the Gulf of Mexico between an area of continental shelf extending beyond 200 nautical miles from Cuba, an area of continental shelf extending beyond 200 nautical miles from Mexico and an area of continental shelf extending beyond 200 nautical miles from the United States. (The case of the western gap was solved by a treaty between Mexico and the United States of America on the delimitation of the continental shelf in the western Gulf of Mexico beyond 200 nautical miles, of June 9, 2000.)


no third party was involved and they solved this dispute mutually...

they had another minor dispute with Canada..but its only on USA's freedom of navigation,not a territorial dispute.a part of territorial water is viewed by Canada as territorial water where USA thinks it is an International water...


but the character of SCS is none of above mentioned problems.it is a multinational dispute.

 

[beijingwalker]

everybody goes to the International court to resolve differences...

that's what you said ,right?do you mean for other differences you can resort to force?

 

[GR!FF!N]

that's what you said ,right?do you mean for other differences you can resort to force?

lol..any difference can be solved via dialogue..that you can't solve,you should try those in International Court..got it???Force should be last resort(if it is really needed to solve the problem).