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Refreshing Memories; Crimean Tatar Genocide by Soviet Russia (1944 )

As expected you have no argument :lol:

The head of the Soviet Union was a Georgian, the head of the NKVD was also Georgian. I fail to see how a group of Georgians and other none Russians ruling over Soviet republics makes "Russia" somehow responsible esspecially when Russians suffered more than any other group.
Why are you jealous of our flowering friendship with Ukraine? Turkey <3 Ukraine
 
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Why are you jealous of our flowering friendship with Ukraine? Turkey <3 Ukraine




Yes I'm jelous of your friendship with a failed state. As for your comment before about Saltans not being Turkish, Ahmed V was Turkish. He ruled during the time of the Armenian genocide.
 
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soviet zionist empire and the jew young turks. thanks to rothchild financing.
 
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I don't know if you guys have watched the Eurovision song contest finals, A Crimean Tatar lady name Jamala ( Cemile ) has won the title with the song " 1944 " which tells the genocide of Crimean Tatars by the Soviet Russia.

This is the song;


The Story

The forcible deportation of the Crimean Tatars from Crimea was ordered by Joseph Stalin as a form of collective punishment for alleged collaboration with the Nazi occupation regime in Taurida Subdistrict during 1942-1943. The state-organized removal is known as the Sürgünlik in Crimean Tatar. A total of more than 230,000 people were deported, mostly to the Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic. This included the entire ethnic Crimean Tatar population, at the time about a fifth of the total population of the Crimean Peninsula, as well as smaller numbers of ethnic Greeks and Bulgarians. A large number of deportees (more than 100,000 according to a 1960s survey by Crimean Tatar activists) died from starvation or disease as a direct result of deportation. It is considered to be a case of ethnic cleansing.[1][2][3] For a long time Crimean Tatars and Soviet dissidents called for recognition of the genocide of Crimean Tatars. On November 12, 2015 parliament of Ukraine adopted a resolution recognizing the event as a genocide and declared 18 May as a Day of Remembrance for the victims of Crimean Tatar genocide.[4]

During destalinization the deportation was denounced by the Soviet government; nevertheless, the Crimean Tatars were denied the right of return up until late perestroika times.

A total of 238,500 people were deported, compared to a recorded total of 9,225 Crimean Tatars who had served in anti-Soviet Tatar Legions and other German-formed battalions.[13]

The deportation began on 18 May 1944 early morning in all Crimean-inhabited localities and lasted until 16:00 on 20 May 1944.[14] More than 32,000 NKVD troops participated in this action.[14] The forced deportees were given only 30 minutes to gather personal belongings, after which they were loaded onto cattle trains and moved out of Crimea.[11][15] A deportee recalled the knocking of their door at 3 am on 18 May and being given 15 minutes to get ready.[16] Despite the fact that the decree allowed the deportees to take their "personal items, clothing, household objects, dishes and utensils, and up to 500 kilograms of food per family" with them,[12] some deportees did not take anything with them as the events were reminiscent of the Holocaust, and they expected to be killed soon.[16] The deportees were brought to central gathering stations in Simferopol and Bakhchysarai, and after a short waiting period, loaded on trains.[17]

183,155[14] - 193,865 Crimean Tatars were deported, 151,136 of them to Uzbek SSR, 8,597 to Mari ASSR, 4,286 to Kazakh SSR, the rest 29,846 to the various oblasts ofRussian SFSR.[14] According to NKVD records, 2,444 Crimean Tatar families were separated during the deportation.[18] This was considered to be intentional by the Crimean Tatars, as they believed that the aim of the Soviet government was to achieve their deaths by any means; if not physically, then through grief and loneliness.[17] At the same moment, most of the Crimean Tatar men who were fighting in the ranks of the Red Army were demobilized and sent into forced labor camps in Siberia and in the Ural mountain region.[11]

Cultural destruction[edit]
The Soviet government planned the ethnic assimilation of the Crimean Tatar community into the Central Asian population.[34] It destroyed Tatar cultural assets; this included the destruction of Tatar monuments and burning of Tatar manuscripts and books,[2] including those by Lenin and Marx. Tatar mosques were converted into cinemas and warehouses, gravestones of Tatars were used as building material. Exiled Crimean Tatars were banned from speaking of Crimea and official Soviet texts, including the Great Soviet Encyclopedia, erased all references to them. When applying for internal passports, "Crimean Tatar" was not accepted as an existing ethnic group and those that designated themselves as "Crimean Tatars" were automatically denied passports.[35] The traditional production methods of the Crimean Tatars were destroyed through the force labor imposed on them.[31]

The Soviet Union engaged in a policy of "toponymic repression" against Crimean Tatars. This commenced with a decree from the Party Committee of the Crimean Oblast on 20 October 1944, ordering the renaming of all Tatar, Greek and German-language place names (including mountains and rivers), and was followed by a decree of the RSFSR Supreme Soviet Presidium on 14 December, stipulating the renaming of all districts and district centers to Russian-language names. Two more decrees followed on 21 August 1945 and 18 May 1948, resulting in the renaming of 1389 more Crimean Tatar towns and villages.[36]

Soviet propaganda[edit]
The Soviet government of the time denied the nature of the deportation by claiming that it was voluntary and reflecting it in this light to the domestic and international media. At the time of the deportations, the term "resettlement" was used by the NKVD instead of "deportation".[34]

A revisionist approach was adopted in the historical presentation of Crimean Tatars, where they were represented as bandits and thieves that had no developmental contributions. In some Soviet spy novels, they were vilified as evil Nazi agents and traitors.[2]

On 28 April 1956, by the decree of the Supreme Soviet Presidium of the USSR, the Crimean Tatars were released from special settlement, accompanied by a restoration of their civil rights. In the same year, the Crimean Tatars started a petition to allow their repatriation to Crimea. They held mass protests in October 1966, but these were violently quelled by the Soviet military. On 21 June 1967, the first meeting of the Soviet government, represented by the KGB Chairman, the Minister of the Internal Affairs and the Secretary of the USSR Supreme Soviet with a Crimean Tatar delegation took place. Prompt rehabilitation of Crimean Tatars were promised, but never fulfilled. On 27 August and 2 September 1967, thousands of Crimean Tatars took to the streets to protest in Tashkent. The protests were cracked down upon, but prompted official Soviet response.[37]

Although a decree of the Supreme Soviet Presidium issued on 5 September 1967 removed the charges against Crimean Tatars, the Soviet government did nothing to facilitate their resettlement in Crimea and to make reparations for lost lives and confiscated property. Crimean Tatars, having a definite tradition of non-communist political dissent, succeeded in creating a truly independent network of activists, values and political experience.[38] In 1968, 300 families were allowed to return, but this was only for propaganda purposes.[39]Crimean Tatars, led by the Crimean Tatar National Movement Organization,[40] were not allowed to return to Crimea from exile until the beginning of the Perestroika in the mid-1980s.[41]

The 1991 RSFSR law On the Rehabilitation of Repressed Peoples addressed rehabilitation of all ethnicities repressed in the Soviet Union. However the law had various deficiencies, including unclear legal status of a number of peoples, such as Crimean Tatars moved across the borders of Soviet republics, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.[42] After the annexation of Crimea by Russia, on April 21, 2014 Vladimir Putin signed the decree No 268 "О мерах по реабилитации армянского, болгарского, греческого, крымско-татарского и немецкого народов и государственной поддержке их возрождения и развития". ("On the Measures for the Rehabilitation of Armenian, Bulgarian, Greek, Crimean Tatar and German Peoples and the State Support of Their Revival and Development"),[43] amended by Decree no. 458 of September 12, 2015.[44]The decree addressed the status of the mentioned peoples which resided in Crimean ASSR and were deported from there.

After the annexation of Crimea by Russia, the Crimean parliament recognized the 20th century history of Crimean Tatars as a "tragic fate."[45]

Crimean activists were calling for the recognition of the Sürgünlik as genocide.[46] This was also supported by Soviet dissidents.[47][48] Greta Lynn Uehling, in her book Beyond Memory: The Crimean Tatars' Deportation and Return, wrote that the deportation of the Crimean Tatars satisfied the definition of genocide according to the UN Genocide Convention, as despite the fact that not all Crimean Tatars were exterminated, the genocidal intent of destroying a particular ethnic group and implementing calculated policies to achieve this was present.[17] On November 12, 2015 Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a resolution on recognition of Crimean Tatars' genocide.[49] On May 11, 2016, it appealed to the international community, particularly the United Nations, OSCE, European Parliament and Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe to recognize the deportation as genocide.[50]

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Genocide has destroyed half of the Crimean Tatars.

We, in Pakistan, heard about her on T.V in news. They told us that a Ukrainian Muslim lady has won this song contest. Stalin was no different than Hitler so it won't surprise me if he also ordered to kill and displace these poor people.

May Allah bless the survivors and their generations and show mercy to dead ones. Ameen.
 
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Those ''Jews'' fought for our country,who fought for you in your wars,besides you?

what jews fought ? like dress up as muslims and kill armenians just like thier cousins in russia who were busy killing christians rus in gulags. below are books exposing jew zionist.

1. under the sign of scorpian by juri lina
2. behind communism
3. western technology and the soviet economic development by antony sutton.
did you know usa built up russia military industriel complex, full blueprints copies of thier own factories but much larger in scale given to russia, example tank, tractor, engine, pumps , electronics basically evrything even how to make pencils.
 
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Should I cry now?I mean the tatars sold so much young mans and womens in slavery in the ottomean empire.They are not an angels, are they?Some of them fight for Hitler, so I'm not going to cry for them.Congrats to Ukraine for their political win last night.I have no idea why they even sing for Crimea?I mean Khrushchev transferred it to the Ukrainian SSR 10 years after the deportations...
But we all know who was going to win the thing if it wasnt for the politics.
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May Allah bless the survivors and their generations and show mercy to dead ones. Ameen.
Is your Allah going to do something for all people that was sold in slavery by the poor tatars?
 
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This troll tries hard to justify the crimes of Soviets forgetting the fact that the Tsarist Russia was no different.. Tsar Alexander's imperial aim at the Balkans around the "question d'orient" political term was advocating that the Balkan peoples were under the oppression of the Ottoman Empire.. And He was backing those rioters to cause an all-out uprising..

He was doing this ignoring the fact that Balkan people under Ottoman rule especially Bulgarians were the happiest people in the world..By contrast the poeple of the Tsarist Russia were living in incredibly hard conditions..

Peoples suffering under the despotism, cruelty, oppression, suppression, tyranny, atrocity of Tsar, had to back Leninist movement in the hope of a better life but unfortunatelly that didnt help the situation..
 
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Is your Allah going to do something for all people that was sold in slavery by the poor tatars?
One of those was emperor's wife and the mother, grandmother of next emperor's, then the rest were either commander's or statesmen. Seems, astagfirullah but Allah has done a lot for those people. They, for sure, were happier than you are right now :)
 
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Armenian genocide?

Well, it wasn't a genocide but mass murdering. Yeah l admit it. My ancestors slaughtered a few hundred-thousands of Armenians to avenge my people who were living and slaughterd by Armenians in Kars province. Yes l am a Kurdish and my grandfather brought his family from Kars to Kayseri to save their lives from Armenian terrorists.

I am so glad they got an opportunity to slaughter when Armenian pigs were marching to Syria and they didn't miss that opportunity .

Well, you Russians gave everything to Armenian pigs for murdering my people during ww1 now you are arming their bastards who are named pkk. But we will avenge our people who murdered by pkk again.

We Kurds give no fck whatever you call it. For you it's a genocide but for us it is revenge.
 
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Of course the Turks always deny it. Funny things is that @damm1t says that "Russia" committed "genocide" against the Tatars unfortunately for him there was no Russia back then, it was the Soviet Union and it was comprised of over a dozen different countries. Moreover, Stalin was not even Russian but Georgian, in fact many of the people Stalin apointed were not Russian. The second most powerful man in the country was also Georgian.

Millions of Russians and Ukrainians were killed and imprisoned by Stalin. The Slavs suffered more than anyone.


Head of NKVD which is mostly responsible for arresting, killing and deporting people was another Georgian named Lavrentiy Beria.

But yes it is the evil Russians fault :lol:
The USSR was the work of the Gog & Magog Judeo-Christian world order; the same order was behind the Armenian genocide.

The legacy of the USSR has been used by the Modern West, another part of the Gog & Magog Judeo-Christian world order, to drive away the neighours of Russia and to foment unrest, both internally & externally. I just hope Russians realize this and work to counter this narrative.
 
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As far as I am concerned, Crimea is now a better place under Russian control than it was under Ukraine. At the moment, it is a nice tourist destination compared to very unsafe situation in Turkey, Syria, Iraq etc.

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160513/1039541587/crimea-tourists-china.html

I am convinced by the argument made by the Russian members that there must be a clear distinction between what befell on Tatars and the Armenian Genocide. Soviet Union being a federal republic, as historical records show, wrongful policies hurt different groups, including the Slavs which comprise the majority of the people who make up the nation we call Russia today. So, practically, they cannot be held responsible.

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Armenian genocide?

Well, it wasn't a genocide but mass murdering. Yeah l admit it. My ancestors slaughtered a few hundred-thousands of Armenians to avenge my people who were living and slaughterd by Armenians in Kars province. Yes l am a Kurdish and my grandfather brought his family from Kars to Kayseri to save their lives from Armenian terrorists.

I am so glad they got an opportunity to slaughter when Armenian pigs were marching to Syria and they didn't miss that opportunity .

Well, you Russians gave everything to Armenian pigs for murdering my people during ww1 now you are arming their bastards who are named pkk. But we will avenge our people who murdered by pkk again.

We Kurds give no fck whatever you call it. For you it's a genocide but for us it is revenge.


If the Russians armed the PKK much more Turkish soldiers, armor and aircraft would be targeted.

The PKK almost certainly aquired their weapons from those degenerate rejects that Turkey supports, mainly the FSA and by aquired I mean they killed FSA and took their weapons which were looted from the Syrian army. Turkish foreign policy at work.
 
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