Recognizing Israel, here is what we should do.

[Nasr]

There are two things; Israeli nation and Israeli nation state. Israeli nation is mentioned in the holy Quran and it is part of our faith. Israeli nation state has some issues and disputes.

We should go with what is already part of our faith i.e. recognize Israeli nation and not the latter.

We should have their ambassador in Pakistan and have imports from them. But we won't send our ambassador to Jerusalem. Neither shall we send our exports there but to any third country.

This arrangement continues uptil the said nation state has solved it's issues and disputes.

Had you studied the Noble Qur'an, you would've known that after Isa Alaihi Salam came, Banu Isra'eel ceased to exist as from among Banu Isra'eel rejected Isa Alaihi Salam, while a some from Banu Isra'eel accept Isa Alaihi Salam as the "Promised Messiah." Those who rejected Isa Alaihi Salam are defined by the Noble Qur'an as "Yahood" whereas those who accepted Isa Alahi Salam as the Promised Messiah, are defined by the Noble Qur'an as Nasaarah.

The Zionist State created in 1948, in what is still Palestine, is illegal, illegitimate and fraudulent.

Had you studied the Noble Qur'an, you would've known that Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah had banished the Yahood from the Holy Land after they committed the heinous act of murdering Prophets of Allah and attempted (and failed) to crucify and kill Isa Alaihi Salam. That the Yahood would not be able to return to the Holy Land until Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj have been released.

People who have no knowledge on the subject talk about it like if it is a day time talk show. Its insulting to the collective MUSLIM intellect.

Those who abandon the Noble Qur'an, beware of a blunt warning, not even Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam will be able to save you from the hellfire.

 

[my2cents]

this guy runs a very good channel and has run similar videos on other subjects too.
goes to show Israelis are no different to any other average fellow citizen of this world.
these videos are best ambassadors of Israel and can help the people (from Muslim countries) to warm up to Israelis compared to cringe worthy pandering by Western politicians and media companies that fake their love for Israel

It is good to see a realization and acceptance that they are also people just like us . In wider context they are doing what any other nation with hostile neighbors would do-fighting for their own survival. What they have accomplished as a nation is remarkable but is overshadowed by brutal suppression of Palestinian right for their own nationhood and self determination.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

What sense does it make to recognize pure Barbarism.

Civilization begins when the power of a state recognizes the population of the territory it controls as Citizens.

Zionism means three things:

(1) Zionism is the infantile doctrine that says: the lands of "La Mancha" in Spain belong to the Russian, Polish, Ukrainian club of readers of "Don Quixote de la Mancha" by a sentimental link.

Let us not forget that "our colonial project" (Jabotinsky) was founded by very violent Ukrainians, Russians and Poles who were descendants of Italians and Greeks, Turks, Syrians and Persians. Judaism in Greek-Roman-Persian times was a religion that spread like wildfire among women. And it was spread "throughout all the nations of the world" (Flavius Josephus) i.e. the Greek-Roman world plus the Persian world.

"Our colonial project" (Jabotinsky) is like justifying that some Catholics from Argentina founded their colonial project in the lands that in the past belonged to the Vatican.

(2) Zionism is the doctrine that establishes a brutal distinction between "a people (of lords)" and "the people of the land" ("am ha'eretz") who must be subdued.

The first version is from Persian imperial times, when an Aramean ruling class arrives with books, money and Persian power to dominate the Arab-Hebrew population. The original Software 'a people of lords chosen to dominate a population' dates from this time. And this foundational fracture lasted until Roman times.

(3) Zionism is the use of Terror as an instrument of population control. From the beginning in "our colonial project" the idea was to hit and hit to get a response to hit harder.

Zionism is whimsical fantasy, colonial arrogance and pure, brutal barbarism.

Did you forget to or on purpose neglect metion of obelix Asterix and cacophonix that beat up the Romans?

 

[Iñigo]

The Arab-Hebrew population has been living in "the land of Canaan" since the time of ThutMose III Pharaoh of Egypt

"the people of the land" ("am ha'eretz") the Palestinians, fought against the legions of Titus and Vespasian, Legio V Macedom, Legio X Fretensis, Legio XV Apollinarus

But everyone sees the Barbarism of "our colonial project" (Jabotinsky) founded by Ukrainians, Russians and Poles of the Yiddish people as more or less normal

In this case on the one hand we can see the power of fantasy literature, and on the other hand we can see the blindness to the Barbarism of a Viking horde that worships itself and imposes its terror on the population.

There is no "State" in "the land of Canaan" until those who have all the political and military power recognize the population as Citizenship.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

This was the sentiment back in the days but WE need to move forward with times.

WE can push for integration of Palestinian people in Israeli society. One-state solution in short.

No , Pakistan cannot and should never recognize Israel. What a disgrace that people are promoting this here. Have some shame

 

[Iñigo]

"Those damned people who ignore the Law" (John 7,49)

evidently the nazarene text refers to "the people of the land" ("am ha'eretz") despised from the Sadducean Priestly Judaism (-70) and despised from the rabbinic Judaism (200/400-) that centuries later (700/1000-) would forge the Yiddish people in Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine.

"those damned people"

these people of the land were the ones who fought against the Legions of Rome, Legio V Macedom, Legio X Fretensis, Legio XV Apollinarus

Early Islam arose from Palestinian Judaism, i.e. the Judaism of "the people of the land", which was neither priestly Judaism nor the later medieval rabbinical Judaism.

 

[Iñigo]

The land of Canaan was not an island off the coast of Norway, that is what the Viking horde of Ukrainian, Russian and Polish savages who founded "our colonial project" (1917-) and unleashed terror on "the people of the land" would have wanted.

In the land of Canaan the north was Greek-Phoenician and the south was Arab-Hebrew.

In fact "Yahweh" is an Arabic divinity, it coincides the most archaic texts with archeology.

Tayma - Wikipedia

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[newb3e]

we should also sell our nuclear assets
end our support for kashmiri "terrorists" and also give all our lands to property dealers so they can make brthers and sell Pakistan women to israelis!

 

[LeGenD]

Had you studied the Noble Qur'an, you would've known that after Isa Alaihi Salam came, Banu Isra'eel ceased to exist as from among Banu Isra'eel rejected Isa Alaihi Salam, while a some from Banu Isra'eel accept Isa Alaihi Salam as the "Promised Messiah." Those who rejected Isa Alaihi Salam are defined by the Noble Qur'an as "Yahood" whereas those who accepted Isa Alahi Salam as the Promised Messiah, are defined by the Noble Qur'an as Nasaarah.

The Zionist State created in 1948, in what is still Palestine, is illegal, illegitimate and fraudulent.

Had you studied the Noble Qur'an, you would've known that Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah had banished the Yahood from the Holy Land after they committed the heinous act of murdering Prophets of Allah and attempted (and failed) to crucify and kill Isa Alaihi Salam. That the Yahood would not be able to return to the Holy Land until Ya'jooj wa Ma'jooj have been released.

People who have no knowledge on the subject talk about it like if it is a day time talk show. Its insulting to the collective MUSLIM intellect.

Those who abandon the Noble Qur'an, beware of a blunt warning, not even Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam will be able to save you from the hellfire.

Slow down.

Surah Al-Isra - 102 - Quran.com

Moses replied, “You know well that none has sent these ˹signs˺ down except the Lord of the heavens and the earth as insights. And I really think that ...

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Surah Al-Isra - 103 - Quran.com

So Pharaoh wanted to scare the Israelites out of the land ˹of Egypt˺, but We drowned him and all of those with him.

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Surah Al-Isra - 104 - Quran.com

And We said to the Children of Israel after Pharaoh, “Reside in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We will bring you all t...

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And We said to the Children of Israel after Pharaoh, “Reside in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We will bring you all together.”

Study Surah al-Isra with translation in its true spirit. Allah Almighty have warned Muslims in this surah to not follow in the footsteps of jews in CORRUPTION or WE will be subjected to similar forms of punishment including destructive wars and natural calamities. And no soul will be able to avail the other on the Day of Judgement.

Look around you and see what is happening. The decline of Muslims since WW1.

Israel is a UN-recognized state and a sign of the end times. Nothing WE can do about it.

Hadith describe some events but ultimate truth is in the Holy Quran. About time the Holy Quran is given much-needed focus and studied properly.

 

[Nasr]

Slow down.

Surah Al-Isra - 102 - Quran.com

Moses replied, “You know well that none has sent these ˹signs˺ down except the Lord of the heavens and the earth as insights. And I really think that ...

quran.com

Surah Al-Isra - 103 - Quran.com

So Pharaoh wanted to scare the Israelites out of the land ˹of Egypt˺, but We drowned him and all of those with him.

quran.com

Surah Al-Isra - 104 - Quran.com

And We said to the Children of Israel after Pharaoh, “Reside in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We will bring you all t...

quran.com

And We said to the Children of Israel after Pharaoh, “Reside in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We will bring you all together.”

Study Surah al-Isra with translation in its true spirit. Allah Almighty have warned Muslims in this surah to not follow in the footsteps of jews in CORRUPTION or WE will be subjected to similar forms of punishment including destructive wars and natural calamities. And no soul will be able to avail the other on the Day of Judgement.

Look around you and see what is happening. The decline of Muslims since WW1.

Israel is a UN-recognized state and a sign of the end times. Nothing WE can do about it.

Hadith describe some events but ultimate truth is in the Holy Quran. About time the Holy Quran is given much-needed focus and studied properly.

You have quoted the Surah out of context and timeline. A visible and clear blunder made by those who do NOT study the Noble Qur'an.

Go back and try again!!!

Also, United Nations Security Council is NOT Al-Akbar, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah is Al-Akbar.

Get your priorities straightened out.

 

[LeGenD]

You have quoted the Surah out of context and timeline. A visible and clear blunder made by those who do NOT study the Noble Qur'an.

Go back and try again!!!

Also, United Nations Security Council is NOT Al-Akbar, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah is Al-Akbar.

Get your priorities straightened out.

So you know better than all? Stop questioning intellect people like an extremist.

Surah al-Isra is like a warning to Muslims in which fate of Jews is highlighted as an example of what happen to those nations which embrace corruption. But future events including resurrection are also mentioned. The message of this surah is valid for all times till the end.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

Just put the question to vote if people of Pakistan want to work with Israel or not. Instead some of the nonsensical racist anti Semitic some of you are spewing here, that too in the name of your God! Do you seriously think a God would be racist against a whole people ? Knuckleheads.

 

[Iñigo]

The rabbis and the violent Ukrainian and Polish savages who founded "our colonial project" (1917-) are bothered by the truth.

Herod the Great - Wikipedia

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Who built the great Temple

Answer: a typical Palestinian, an Arab-Hebrew from Idumea.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

When you send your kids to beaconhouse and indoctrinate them with western ideologies, they grow up with identity crisis and create stupid threads like this.

Pakistan official name is; "Islamic Republic of Pakistan", the founder Quaid-e-Azam strongly opposed the forming of illegitimate state called Israel.

Recognizing Isreal would mean that we give up on our lifelong struggles with Kashmir and betray our Kashmiri brothers and ultimately Islam. Thousands of Pakistani civilians, troops, tribesmen have sacrificed their lives for it.

 

[Iñigo]

"Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian" (Exodus 3,1)

Midian - Wikipedia

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But, of course, it is very difficult to explain geography and history to savage and ignorant Ukrainians and Poles who were a bunch of cynics.