Rearranging the Subcontinent

[Kompromat]

Solution is to unify Pakistan and Afghanistan into a federal republic.

 

[Donatello]

The fact that South Indians have trouble dealing with rest of India.......shows that umm.....well....you know.

 

[greatone]

This article is very half-@rsed ignoramus vitriol against Pakistan that got printed in the name of history.

pathetic.

Indians on this forum assume that they are immune to the disintegration $hit.

Based on what?

Indian army, what the heck else.

Indian Punjab tried to separate, guess what? INdian army had to go in. Rest of the state apparatus failed miserably.
Indian Kashmir tried to separate, guess what? INdian army had to go in. Rest of the state apparatus failed miserably.

So a balanced article would have said


Pakistan too, of course, would not like any of this. Top officials of responsible states — which Pakistan certainly is — prefer the status quo and quiescent borders, not their opposite. But Pakistan might at some point in the 21st century have no choice but to confront India's partial dissolution



This is in our genes too live free or die.

As long Pakistani and Indians governments maintain strong armies, the two countries will survive. Destruction of either army will result in the end of the other.

We may be separate, but we are joined at the hip in many ways.

I respectfully disagree.
Pakistan is indeed trying to change the status quo by infiltrating terrorists each year, supporting Taliban in Afghanistan to achieve strategic depth.
This is not behavior of a responsible state.

And it would be foolish to compare stability of India with Pakistan.
IMHO, India would always exist in some form or other, can't say same about Pakistan.

 

[pakdefender]

Most of this article is what Robert D Kaplan has already written in his book Revenge of Geography published on Sep11, 2012 , he is not presenting anything new here

Publishing too is game , after you have developed or written main content then you break it up and try to get it printed in four or five formats so you end up with credit for getting four five publications, all from the same basic content.

In the book Revenge of Geography he also talk about the demographic changes going on on the US border with Mexico and how that can redraw the southern border of united states.

Just for info , Robet David Kaplan is Jewish and he has served in the Israeli Army

 

[Icewolf]

India should only worry about resolving Kashmir issue with Pakistan, as it is between India and Pakistan, for everything else India is not a party, shouldn't be India's business or concern.

What I got from reading this article...

 

[FaujHistorian]

I respectfully disagree.
Pakistan is indeed trying to change the status quo by infiltrating terrorists each year, supporting Taliban in Afghanistan to achieve strategic depth.
This is not behavior of a responsible state.

And it would be foolish to compare stability of India with Pakistan.
IMHO, India would always exist in some form or other, can't say same about Pakistan.

no different than what India has been doing since 1947.

Please do not be so biased as to ignore the basic facts.

 

[Wolfhound]

no different than what India has been doing since 1947.

Please do not be so biased as to ignore the basic facts.

in simple terms this is utter B.S

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I have had these thoughts myself but I could never articulate them so clearly together.
Much has been made of China's cycles of consolidation and fracture, but India too undergoes these cycles.

Currently Pakistan insulates India from all the violence and barbarism originating in Central Asia, which was the major source of strife in India in yesteryears.Pakistan is like a modern great wall of India in that sense.

A failure of Pakistan would be catastrophic for security of India.

India has a vested interest in seeing Paksitan as a continuing entity. Because of its role as a "Buffer State" from a wilder west beyond.
But as Robert Kaplan has said time and again; "Geography will wreak its own Revenge"....... one can't dismiss him with any alacrity.

 

[Soulspeek]

The author of this article is a fool. He is making it sound like only India and Pakistan will be in turmoil. Didn't Europe and even America had different set of rulers and boundaries in its history?

Nothing is permanent. Neither India nor Pakistan. Now take a chill pill.

 

[zip]

A strong army is basic requirement of a nation state ..There may be a thousand devisive force inside the territory but if army is capable and determined enough then nation will survive ..Its altogether a different question whether survival of such nation state is good for its citizens or not ..Changes will happen ,countries will be broken or realigned untill a stable equation is formed ...

 

[RiazHaq]

Kaplan's boss George Friedman in his book "The Next 100 Years" raises serious doubts about India's viability as a modern nation-state, and dismisses the talk of its emergence as one of the great powers of the 21st century. Friedman does not accept that any of the four BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India and China) will achieve great world power status in this century. Instead, he believes that Turkey, Poland and Japan will join the United States as the most important world powers in the next 50 years. Haq's Musings: Are India and Pakistan Failed States?

 

[Wolfhound]

A strong army is basic requirement of a nation state.

You couldnt be more mistaken my friend a strong government is the basic requirement of a state. You do know there are alot of countries that do not have armies,how do you justify their survival? Plus the main purpose of an army is external defense instead of internal which is more of the polices job

 

[RiazHaq]

Given the many ethnic, regional, religious and caste fault lines running through the length and breadth of India, there have long been questions raised about India's identity as a nation. Speaking about it last April, the US South Asia expert Stephen Cohen of Brookings Institution said, " But there is no all-Indian Hindu identity—India is riven by caste and linguistic differences, and Aishwarya Rai and Sachin Tendulkar are more relevant rallying points for more Indians than any Hindu caste or sect, let alone the Sanskritized Hindi that is officially promulgated". Haq's Musings: Chinese Strategist Argues for India's Disintegration

 

[wiseone2]

Kaplan's boss George Friedman in his book "The Next 100 Years" raises serious doubts about India's viability as a modern nation-state, and dismisses the talk of its emergence as one of the great powers of the 21st century. Friedman does not accept that any of the four BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia, India and China) will achieve great world power status in this century. Instead, he believes that Turkey, Poland and Japan will join the United States as the most important world powers in the next 50 years. Haq's Musings: Are India and Pakistan Failed States?

This is the dumbest post -
Brazil, Russia, India, China will be more important than Turkey, Poland and Japan.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Mr. Kaplan has kost his perspective. What he misses is that while 500 years ago the states in the south was different from the north, starting in the late 19th century, the machine of nationalist organizations like the INC had started working to create POLITICAL CONSENSUS of a united India. Since state is a political entity, the concept of south versus north axis vanished completely. And no, this was not because of the British (who introduced more divisions than unity), this was the work of Indian Nationalist organizarions.

Given the many ethnic, regional, religious and caste fault lines running through the length and breadth of India, there have long been questions raised about India's identity as a nation. Speaking about it last April, the US South Asia expert Stephen Cohen of Brookings Institution said, " But there is no all-Indian Hindu identity—India is riven by caste and linguistic differences, and Aishwarya Rai and Sachin Tendulkar are more relevant rallying points for more Indians than any Hindu caste or sect, let alone the Sanskritized Hindi that is officially promulgated". Haq's Musings: Chinese Strategist Argues for India's Disintegration

screw you